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2019/05/29 13:27:56 (permalink)
1080ti ftw3 elite. I have a coolermaster h500 work 3 exhaust fans two top one back. Custom dan curve on the card very aggressive. Maxed out power and temp sliders. And +10 to the core is all. Well in games like battlefield v in 1440p 144hz I see around 68-72 But I recently started the Witcher 3 in 4k on another monitor and I was playing last night and for about 45 min I was around 75c but around a hour or more it steadily rose to 91c and started throttlinG. Seems cut scenes are brutal to temp more so than playing. My case has awesome air flow with the 2 200mm intake fans and mesh front. Once it was hitting 90c I removed the side panel and let it run some more but it stayed pegged up at 90-91. I think it did this in another game. The hunter call of the wild. Will test that again tonight. But In other games I don’t think this happens. Any thoughts? Never wanted to watercool but this is making me super mad! I’ve done everything right as far as fans and providing a good case for air flow and it’s in my basement which I would guess is around 68f let me know your thoughts.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/29 17:38:29 (permalink)
I play witcher 3 in 1080p but my card (1080ti ftw3) makes it to around 85C max... no real throttling, just the slight frequency drop due to increased temp. I am sending it for RMA though as the fans are terribly noisy at ANY speed, from as low as 500rpm to nearly 3000rpm when trying to take off with my case still attached lol. I do have good airflow too and removing the side panel or even the mb with the gpu from the case does not help. Not even speaking of the buzzing the card produces the moment any load is put on it (I already am on my second one for that reason while the bf is enjoying his silent extremely low end 1060 which cost him 1/4 of what I paid for mine). I'll see.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/29 19:51:07 (permalink)
So I may have just found my issue which is hard for me to believe. So I have the coolermaster h500 It has mesh front. With two 200mm fans Intake. Two 140mm exhaust top and one 120 rear. Be quiet fans. I have the dark rock pro 4. So I just tested with all fans maxed. Within 25 min the gpu hits 90c. So I took the side panel off and it’s been running a hour and only at 69-70.

So here is my theory. The ftw3 is so wide that there isn’t much room between the card and the glass so the air gets trapped under it and cycles the hot air to the graphics card. So I’m not sure how to solve this with keeping my side panel on. This case should have one of the best air flow on the market!!! I think if I did a cooler master vertical gpu mount it would give better air flow past the graphics card so the hot air could escape. Anyone have any thoughts? I was about to rma this card. Glad I tried these last few tests again.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/29 21:41:36 (permalink)
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So I may have just found my issue which is hard for me to believe. So I have the coolermaster h500 It has mesh front. With two 200mm fans Intake. Two 140mm exhaust top and one 120 rear. Be quiet fans. I have the dark rock pro 4. So I just tested with all fans maxed. Within 25 min the gpu hits 90c. So I took the side panel off and it’s been running a hour and only at 69-70.

So here is my theory. The ftw3 is so wide that there isn’t much room between the card and the glass so the air gets trapped under it and cycles the hot air to the graphics card. So I’m not sure how to solve this with keeping my side panel on. This case should have one of the best air flow on the market!!! I think if I did a cooler master vertical gpu mount it would give better air flow past the graphics card so the hot air could escape. Anyone have any thoughts? I was about to rma this card. Glad I tried these last few tests again.

Are you using the hard drive cages in the front and the cover on the PSU? I'd probably take all that out if you can. As you discovered, you need airflow through the case and of course the fans for the GPU needs cool air.

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/29 21:47:08 (permalink)
Yea I am using those. I am playing the Witcher now I’m 4k. About a hour in with the side panel off and max was 77 in a long cut scene but while normal playing not cut scenes it’s 70-72. I’m just not sure how to get more air flow. It’s like it’s causing a vortex when the side panel is ok air comes out of the gpu side and sucks back not the fans. I do think the vertical mount would work but for now I’m just gonna leave the side off I guess.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/29 22:14:09 (permalink)
Ok I spoke too spoke to soon. About 2 hrs into the Witcher after a real long cut scene where there is dialogue it went up to 91c this is with 100 percent gpu fans and also case fans with the side off! What the heck!! Is the card messed up or something?

On the hunter call of the wild at 1440p 144hz with the side panel on it overheats in 25 min to 91c but when I took the side panel off it stays at 69 on that game and that was over a hour testing that. But For some reason the Witcher heats up to 91c even with the good air flow case. I just can’t believe what is going on. Also I have changed thermal paste several times with noctua nht1. Any advice on what I should do? So frustrating. I should be hitting 90 on a custom 3fan cooler!!
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/29 23:17:56 (permalink)
So I disabled hair works and that seems to help keep the temps lower during the cut scenes. But one of them was really long just now and it still hit 90-91 after the cut scene I paused the game for a minute. Then continued playing and it was back to around 71 while playing. There must be something in the cut scene that just makes the gpu run like crazy or something.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 07:25:53 (permalink)
So after more testing. With the side panel off bfv only gets to 65c with it on 71
On the hunter call of the wild with it on 25min 90c off 69-70
The Witcher even with the side panel off at 4k it stayed around 71 for over a hour then after about 1.5 hours it slowly crept to 90c then I re started the game and it was back around 72 and seemed to stay there. So it almost seems like there is something going on that after a prolonged time it just heats to the max. But only in 4k if I drop to 1440p I stay around 68-69. Can anyone else test this? So I think I need to get some higher flow exhaust fans in my case to get the hot air out. But the Witcher 3 going to 90c with the side panel off stumps me!! I don’t think it’s just card if I can play other games and it doesn’t break 70 with the side panel off.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 09:47:59 (permalink)
Crazy high temps and your in the basement with 68f temps? My 1080ti ftw3 overclocked only hit like 52-53c on air max fans. Have you tried just locking the fans at 100% or you using a fan curve?

Remember the other 2 fans are linked to mem and vrm temps and those fans may not be at running that fast as the main left GPU fan at high GPU die temps. If your using a fan curve, tweak those other fans to kick up in speed at like 30c.

Might be time to pull the cooler and check and replace the thermal compound.

Yeah water cooling (custom loop) would be best. I seen max temp of 32c while gaming with a d5 pump single loop with ek XE 360 "60mm thick" rad push fans only. That's using the ek ftw3 block.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 09:54:49 (permalink)
I am using a custom fan curve for all 3 fans so they equally run at around the same speed as things heat up. I have replaced the thermal paste. So for one I do think with my side panel on the hot air from the gpu is recirculating. Prob need better exhaust fans to suck the air from below the gpu. But what I really don’t get is with the side panel off. Bfv is only around 65c running about 1950mhz. And even on the Witcher with 4k about max settings it ran around 70-72 for over a hour then after about 1.5 the temps during cut scene just keep going up till it hits 90c. I just don’t get it at all. My fan curve is running about 75% at 70c and goes to 100 by 80-85c. I just don’t get it cause temps are fine except in the Witcher after a hour and a half.... also the power and memory temps are only in the mid 60s
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 10:09:33 (permalink)
I kinda have a feeling what is going on is. After along time playing a very demanding game. The Witcher at 4k it seems like once everything gets heat soaked for so long it almost seems like the cooler is warping and loosing contact or something weird! I don’t get it. And on less demanding games it stays fine. Not sure if I should contact evga and do a rma. I personally don’t think it should ever hit 90 even for hours and hours. So I may give them a call
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 10:14:32 (permalink)
Try setting the fans all to 100% static. And play the game.

When I was on air I'd have the GPU fan at 50% idle to keep the temps low from the start and then crank to 75-80% at 40c when their would be load. Then 100% at like 45-50c fro. Their on.

That's how I kept the temps at 52c.

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 10:16:20 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2019/06/01 10:41:55
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I kinda have a feeling what is going on is. After along time playing a very demanding game. The Witcher at 4k it seems like once everything gets heat soaked for so long it almost seems like the cooler is warping and loosing contact or something weird! I don’t get it. And on less demanding games it stays fine. Not sure if I should contact evga and do a rma. I personally don’t think it should ever hit 90 even for hours and hours. So I may give them a call


Your GPU should not hit 90C with the fans on 100% or anywhere near that. It looks like you may have an issue with the TIM or thermal paste between the GPU die and the cooler. If you can handle an erector set with confidence, you can replace the TIM yourself. If not, then I would call EVGA and explain your temp issues and what you've done. Refer them to this thread to save time.

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 10:32:03 (permalink)
I have replaced the thermal paste 3 times. The first time it was a little better than the stock temps. The other times were just to check. But has not changed. I just got off the phone with evga and the guy said that the card seems to be working normally and that the Witcher 3 at 4k can cause hot temps. I don’t agree with that. I would think it should be able to run for as long and wanted and be able to maintain a good temp. This is with the power and temp slider maxed and only +10 on the core. I am going to let the hunter call of the wild run for 2 hours as well to see if it stays at a decent temp. I let it go for a hour and it stayed at 69-70

I think for sure when I have my side panel on he hot air from the gpu gets circulated and let’s it heat up which is weird having the coolermaster h500 and two 140 bequiet too and one 120 rear exhaust with the dark rock pro 4 on the cpu. Also case fans I set to be 100 when the cpu hits 45 cause in some games my cpu temp was super Low so the case fans weren’t running very fast.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 11:15:14 (permalink)
We’re your temps running the Witcher 3 4k ultra?

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Try setting the fans all to 100% static. And play the game.

When I was on air I'd have the GPU fan at 50% idle to keep the temps low from the start and then crank to 75-80% at 40c when their would be load. Then 100% at like 45-50c fro. Their on.

That's how I kept the temps at 52c.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 11:18:22 (permalink)
Check room temps as well after a few hours of gaming.. my basement can get to 72f after hours of gaming... not that its prob not contributing that much to the super high tenps.

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 11:20:05 (permalink)
Yea I’m sure my room down there heats up but I wouldn’t think it’s going up too much to make that big of a difference. But I could see it getting 5 degrees warmer in the room or so after that long.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 11:20:16 (permalink)
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We’re your temps running the Witcher 3 4k ultra?

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Try setting the fans all to 100% static. And play the game.

When I was on air I'd have the GPU fan at 50% idle to keep the temps low from the start and then crank to 75-80% at 40c when their would be load. Then 100% at like 45-50c fro. Their on.

That's how I kept the temps at 52c.



No.. I mostly play bf5 but do own the game but now with a 2080ti kingpin so be pointless for me to test it now.

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 11:21:06 (permalink)
Ok. Yea with bfv my temps are fine even with the side panel on
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 11:22:56 (permalink)
I sent evga a email to see what they say. I just can’t let it run if it’s going to hit 90c. So only work around is turn the Witcher down to 1440p or something then it doesn’t go over 70
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 13:07:48 (permalink)
I’m not sure what else to try with this. It just seems like when the temps get to 75 ish then something happens with the cooler and the temps just start rising. I just keep thinking that once it hits a certain temp then the cooler is warping or something and breaks contact. Just doesn’t make sense to be running up to 90c.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 13:13:55 (permalink)
This is the elite ftw3 with the 12ghz memory if that makes any difference. I just can’t but help to think something is wrong with this card cause I can’t see why it would over heat on the hunter call of the wild in this high airflow case with 100 percent fan speed. Just doesn’t make sense to me. Any suggestions? Also thanks for those that have replied and gave me advice.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 13:27:26 (permalink)
I will change the thermal paste tonight and give it another try.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 20:20:54 (permalink)
Ok so my case has awesome air flow so I put the side panel on and loaded up the hunter call of the wild and within 15 min it hit 90 so I pulled the card and put clean noctua thermal paste on it. And this time I put firm pressure in the middle of the back plate as I tightened the screw. It’s almost like there was a little concave. And after the new thermal paste I loaded up the hunter call of the wild and it’s neen running for 1.5 hours and it’s at 64c! It was super weird though cause all my games ran in low 70s before except the Witcher and the hunter. So I think I’m good now just super weird. I put quite a bit of pressure on the back plate and I could hear it when the plate touches the die so it must take some good pressure to pull it down and the screws don’t pull it tight unless you push down on the back plate. So glad I figured that out.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 20:24:16 (permalink)
Also my fans are only at 60% with the side panel on. I knew it couldn’t be the air flow from the case.
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/05/31 21:04:47 (permalink)
Awesome.

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/06/01 10:14:08 (permalink)
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Ok so my case has awesome air flow so I put the side panel on and loaded up the hunter call of the wild and within 15 min it hit 90 so I pulled the card and put clean noctua thermal paste on it. And this time I put firm pressure in the middle of the back plate as I tightened the screw. It’s almost like there was a little concave. And after the new thermal paste I loaded up the hunter call of the wild and it’s neen running for 1.5 hours and it’s at 64c! It was super weird though cause all my games ran in low 70s before except the Witcher and the hunter. So I think I’m good now just super weird. I put quite a bit of pressure on the back plate and I could hear it when the plate touches the die so it must take some good pressure to pull it down and the screws don’t pull it tight unless you push down on the back plate. So glad I figured that out.



There you go...third...fourth...fifth... time was the charm.  There could be just enough warp in the cooler you needed extra pressure. I've actually had LM go bad from wiggling an AIO trying to reduce pump noise.

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/06/01 10:32:18 (permalink)
Good to see your yet again / re-TIM made it better
 
Case fans should not be tied to CPU temps when your GPU is getting hot  - you need the heat out of the Case before it becomes a heat loop
 
Your GPU fan cure is behind the heat curve - speeding up way too late
 
 

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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/06/01 11:27:45 (permalink)
Yep got it all figured out now. Pushing down hard on the back plate then tighten screws did the trick. Before I would just push the card together and tighten screws but the connection wasn’t great i guess. I played the Witcher for 2 hours last night and didn’t go above 71 so much improved and im good with that. And still pretty quiet cause fan speeds are below 75percent
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Re: 1080ti ftw3 90c on the Witcher 3 4k Help 2019/06/01 11:35:56 (permalink)
Nice
 
I always install All the screws without tightening them for alignment. 

Then start with the 4 that surround the GPU die & tighten in an "X" pattern working across the chip & keeping the heatsink level / parallel to the GPU
 
Then tighten the other screws working evenly away from the GPU

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