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2017/05/07 12:40:07 (permalink)
Just bought my 1080ti SC2 and loving it. Performs great and no issues thus far.
 
However I have noticed after shutting down my PC (standard Windows 10 shutdown command) the LEDs on the card like the logo and the ones under the shroud are still on. Is this normal??
- If I turn the power supply off via its switch the LEDs go off. When turning back on they come back on again as well
- Previous cards like my 980ti the GeFocre GTX logo LED always went off at shutdown
 
I have an EVGA motherboard as well (Z170 FTW) as some of its LEDs stay on after shutdown as well so wondering if its related or something.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 13:06:09 (permalink)
o_0 no

I mean... Well no. There is no 5V rail in the PCIe bus, so +5VSB can't be powering anything in the card.

The card has access to +3.3V and +12V from the PCIe slot and the PCIe power cables. Neither of those rails should be powered on after the computer is shut off.

What power supply do you have?
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 13:13:50 (permalink)
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Just bought my 1080ti SC2 and loving it. Performs great and no issues thus far.
 
However I have noticed after shutting down my PC (standard Windows 10 shutdown command) the LEDs on the card like the logo and the ones under the shroud are still on. Is this normal??
- If I turn the power supply off via its switch the LEDs go off. When turning back on they come back on again as well
- Previous cards like my 980ti the GeFocre GTX logo LED always went off at shutdown
 
I have an EVGA motherboard as well (Z170 FTW) as some of its LEDs stay on after shutdown as well so wondering if its related or something.


Is the primary GPU fan still spinning also? Are you sure your'e waiting for shutdown to actually complete vs just observing the display turning off, which happens almost immediately? I can confirm that this is not the behavior of my FTW3s at least...

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 13:14:31 (permalink)
I have a corsair ax760i for PSU
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 13:24:32 (permalink)
Go to your BIOS settings to enable EU compliance.  It will power off anything on your MB if the issue exists but at the same time, it shouldn't be lit while shutdown so there can be a existing issue there OR the MB's LED lights are creating the illusion and illuminating the GPU's shroud, etc.

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 13:25:36 (permalink)
Thanks. I will try this later tonight after work
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 19:59:04 (permalink)
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Go to your BIOS settings to enable EU compliance.  It will power off anything on your MB if the issue exists but at the same time, it shouldn't be lit while shutdown so there can be a existing issue there OR the MB's LED lights are creating the illusion and illuminating the GPU's shroud, etc.




I have tried enabling both the ERP mode (european power standards) and Dark Mode, and the graphics card's LEDs+Logo are still on after shutdown. See attached image.
 
I am wondering if this is perhaps a bug in the card's BIOS as bizarrely if I enable the LED settings as 'breathing' or 'rainbow' these persist when the PC is shutdown.
 
Anyone else on this forum with a 1080ti SC2 that has similar issue? 
post edited by jamieplz - 2017/05/07 20:02:06

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 20:03:23 (permalink)
What happens if you turn off the Power Supply?
 Your MB LED should not be showing the Letter C.

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 20:06:46 (permalink)
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What happens if you turn off the Power Supply?
 Your MB LED should not me showing the Letter C
 



As stated in the original post turning off the PSU via its switch kills the power completely (same effect as wall switch)
 
As for the "C" this has always been there on the motherboard. I never been able to find out what that means as its not covered in the motherboard manual. Do you know what this means?
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 20:07:56 (permalink)
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Go to your BIOS settings to enable EU compliance.  It will power off anything on your MB if the issue exists but at the same time, it shouldn't be lit while shutdown so there can be a existing issue there OR the MB's LED lights are creating the illusion and illuminating the GPU's shroud, etc.




I have tried enabling both the ERP mode (european power standards) and Dark Mode, and the graphics card's LEDs+Logo are still on after shutdown. See attached image.
 
I am wondering if this is perhaps a bug in the card's BIOS as bizarrely if I enable the LED settings as 'breathing' or 'rainbow' these persist when the PC is shutdown.
 
Anyone else on this forum with a 1080ti SC2 that has similar issue? 




If ERP is enabled, there shouldn't be any LEDs on at all.  This is interesting and thanks for posting a pic.

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 20:10:09 (permalink)
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What happens if you turn off the Power Supply?
 Your MB LED should not me showing the Letter C
 



As stated in the original post turning off the PSU via its switch kills the power completely (same effect as wall switch)
 
As for the "C" this has always been there on the motherboard. I never been able to find out what that means as its not covered in the motherboard manual. Do you know what this means?


Maybe a short somewhere, you need another Z170 FTW owner to chime in and I will chime out for now.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 20:16:33 (permalink)
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What happens if you turn off the Power Supply?
 Your MB LED should not me showing the Letter C
 



As stated in the original post turning off the PSU via its switch kills the power completely (same effect as wall switch)
 
As for the "C" this has always been there on the motherboard. I never been able to find out what that means as its not covered in the motherboard manual. Do you know what this means?


Maybe a short somewhere, you need another Z170 FTW owner to chime in and I will chime out for now.


Thanks. To answer your second question from before the cables are plugged in correctly :) Just looks out of place in the photo due to the way the cables are. I know from own experience if this is not plugged in correctly your system won't even post.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 20:19:09 (permalink)
Sometimes when getting custom PSU cables, you could have either a crossed cable or just a bad cable.  Worse comes to worst, use the original cables that came with the PSU and just connect the bare essentials just to see if these LEDs turn off while having ERP mode enabled and hope that code gets cleared.

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 20:40:28 (permalink)
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Sometimes when getting custom PSU cables, you could have either a crossed cable or just a bad cable.  Worse comes to worst, use the original cables that came with the PSU and just connect the bare essentials just to see if these LEDs turn off while having ERP mode enabled and hope that code gets cleared.


Thanks for that suggestion - I might try that although never had any problems with my cablemod cables before, in this system and others.
 
I have raised a support ticket with EVGA about it so will see what they say/suggest. If I get a fix I will post back on this forum otherwise I can happily live with this.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 22:20:13 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Sajin 2017/05/08 22:35:01
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What happens if you turn off the Power Supply?
 Your MB LED should not me showing the Letter C
 



As stated in the original post turning off the PSU via its switch kills the power completely (same effect as wall switch)
 
As for the "C" this has always been there on the motherboard. I never been able to find out what that means as its not covered in the motherboard manual. Do you know what this means?


Maybe a short somewhere, you need another Z170 FTW owner to chime in and I will chime out for now.


SOLVED - the "C" issue on the motherboard was in fact my problem.
 
I did some googling and stumbled across a YouTube video where another guy had a EVGA Z170 board and the same C code displayed on his motherboard (in his case his system wouldn't POST but I did not have that issue). He replaced his displayport cables to resolve that problem and the C code went away.
 
^^ I did the same thing and bought a new displayport cable, and the C code went away. At the same time the LEDs are now off when I power my system down so this has resolved my problem. 
 
Thanks again to all on this thread who helped me.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/07 22:25:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jamieplz 2017/05/08 03:54:11
That is really Great News, Glad all OK Now
Another reason I do not like DP Ports and Cables, issues galore.
"VESA Certified DisplayPort Cable" some say they are but even ones that are Sill have Issues.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 03:42:49 (permalink)
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SOLVED - the "C" issue on the motherboard was in fact my problem.
 
I did some googling and stumbled across a YouTube video where another guy had a EVGA Z170 board and the same C code displayed on his motherboard (in his case his system wouldn't POST but I did not have that issue). He replaced his displayport cables to resolve that problem and the C code went away.
 
^^ I did the same thing and bought a new displayport cable, and the C code went away. At the same time the LEDs are now off when I power my system down so this has resolved my problem. 
 
Thanks again to all on this thread who helped me.


Well crap I wouldn't have even thought that was possible. I guess you learn something every day.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 03:55:50 (permalink)
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SOLVED - the "C" issue on the motherboard was in fact my problem.
 
I did some googling and stumbled across a YouTube video where another guy had a EVGA Z170 board and the same C code displayed on his motherboard (in his case his system wouldn't POST but I did not have that issue). He replaced his displayport cables to resolve that problem and the C code went away.
 
^^ I did the same thing and bought a new displayport cable, and the C code went away. At the same time the LEDs are now off when I power my system down so this has resolved my problem. 
 
Thanks again to all on this thread who helped me.


Well crap I wouldn't have even thought that was possible. I guess you learn something every day.

Yeah the guy on the video said it took him ages to figure out it was some grounding issue and his cable causing it. I too would have never had guessed a cable could do that so yes have learned something new 
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 04:17:11 (permalink)
Sick mate had the same problem thanks
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 05:51:55 (permalink)
Can you link a video that you used to solve this problem? Can be priv if you perefer
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 13:15:22 (permalink)
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SOLVED - the "C" issue on the motherboard was in fact my problem.
 
I did some googling and stumbled across a YouTube video where another guy had a EVGA Z170 board and the same C code displayed on his motherboard (in his case his system wouldn't POST but I did not have that issue). He replaced his displayport cables to resolve that problem and the C code went away.
 
^^ I did the same thing and bought a new displayport cable, and the C code went away. At the same time the LEDs are now off when I power my system down so this has resolved my problem. 
 
Thanks again to all on this thread who helped me.




In the end of the day, it ended up being a cable but not the ones we thought they were (PSU).  Glad it all worked out.  

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 18:03:18 (permalink)
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Can you link a video that you used to solve this problem? Can be priv if you perefer




https://youtu.be/FYcQ9hZtq_g
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 22:34:46 (permalink)
Interesting issue/fix. 
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/08 23:41:44 (permalink)
In the past, I also experienced similar with a DP 20 pin cable used for the connection. As the 20th pin SHOULD NOT be wired / is an obsolete pin in newer DP standards, very old or uncertified DP cables can cause a short on the GPU that causes the LEDs to be powered even after shutting down the PC.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/09 05:04:42 (permalink)
So why connect it to a trace on the PCB?

Wouldn't it make more sense to leave the pin disconnected to avoid compatibility issues with older cables?

This might actually be interesting to EVGA or Nvidia to replicate. That way it can be avoided in newer cards.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/09 06:40:13 (permalink)
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In the past, I also experienced similar with a DP 20 pin cable used for the connection. As the 20th pin SHOULD NOT be wired / is an obsolete pin in newer DP standards, very old or uncertified DP cables can cause a short on the GPU that causes the LEDs to be powered even after shutting down the PC.




I have heard the same thing. I have also heard it is not an issue on Windows 10... 
 
According to displayport.org there is no difference in cables, old or new. However, it refers to bandwidth, not physical wiring of said pins. My DP cable is very old and is still listed at DP (VESA) certified.
 
It would be really nice if we can get a real answer on this given the amount of rumors and bunk info there seems to be floating around about pin 20. Not saying your wrong, just saying all the info I've read has come from reviewers copying and pasting what they heard from other reviewers when there seems to be another factor involved.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/09 13:42:10 (permalink)
I had the same issue where the LEDs on my RAM would remain on after I turned off my PC. Switched out my DP cable to a quality one from Accell and problem solved.
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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/09 22:16:50 (permalink)
Could be knockoff DP cables that are cheaply made, who knows.

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/05/09 22:32:36 (permalink)
I wouldn't have thought about the cable but it is right that the cable can provide enough power for LED's to work.

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Re: 1080ti SC2: Should LEDs still be on after PC shutdown? 2017/12/13 03:58:18 (permalink)
Sorry to necro this thread.
But something interesting happened to me.
The same problem,
But it happened when I changed from my Red Sleeved OEM EVGA cables set (750W G3 + PN 100-CR-1300-B9) to white sleeved cables from CableMods (specific for the G3 series)

I did a complete shutdown (unplugged PSU from wall socket) and the leds on my FTW3 stayed light on (like in a half phase energy).
Immediately I remembered about this issue, and unplugged the Displayport cable, and voilá. Lights went off.

I will replace the GPU cables again to see how it goes and will report back to add another possible cause to this issue.

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