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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 00:26:41
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So i got my RMA card and it solved the constant flickering while in any game with gsync on , but today had a hard lockup with sound freezing and checkerboarding pattern with multicolored boxes on the bottom half of the screen before it turned into a black screen(with signal still intact). Did i get another bad card? Edit: Yeah its worse than my older card, I left it on heaven benchmark for 10 minutes before the sound frozed and showed white on both monitors
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 01:00:49
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The stability is much worse than my older card. Im pretty upset
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 10:01:07
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:/ new card or refurbished? Temps good or is it running in the upper 80c when this happens?
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 14:46:15
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It happens when it's steady at 73c and it's refurbished from evga
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 15:05:09
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Yep, looks like the replacement card has a vram issue.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 17:37:07
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Sajin Yep, looks like the replacement card has a vram issue.
EVGA told me it might be a motherboard issue since my older ssytem 4790k did not give the same issues, and lasted longer than my current one. How rare is it to have a CPU be defective or a motherboard. its only 2 months old.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 18:21:21
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Sajin Yep, looks like the replacement card has a vram issue.
EVGA told me it might be a motherboard issue since my older ssytem 4790k did not give the same issues, and lasted longer than my current one. How rare is it to have a CPU be defective or a motherboard. its only 2 months old.
?? You tested the other card in the older system before the first rma and didn't have the 2 sec pause?? I'm totally confused.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 19:50:06
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Sajin Yep, looks like the replacement card has a vram issue.
EVGA told me it might be a motherboard issue since my older ssytem 4790k did not give the same issues, and lasted longer than my current one. How rare is it to have a CPU be defective or a motherboard. its only 2 months old.
Your cpu/motherboard isn't causing the card to artifact. The artifacts are coming from the card.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 21:52:36
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Sajin Yep, looks like the replacement card has a vram issue.
EVGA told me it might be a motherboard issue since my older ssytem 4790k did not give the same issues, and lasted longer than my current one. How rare is it to have a CPU be defective or a motherboard. its only 2 months old.
Your cpu/motherboard isn't causing the card to artifact. The artifacts are coming from the card.
yeah its upsetting when im being told it might be the cpu pins or motherboard itself and those need to be RMAd, when i can run ANYTHING else just fine. I stressed a 1050ti on the pci slot and its fine as well
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 22:39:04
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Sajin Yep, looks like the replacement card has a vram issue.
EVGA told me it might be a motherboard issue since my older ssytem 4790k did not give the same issues, and lasted longer than my current one. How rare is it to have a CPU be defective or a motherboard. its only 2 months old.
?? You tested the other card in the older system before the first rma and didn't have the 2 sec pause?? I'm totally confused.
the 4790k platform did not have the stutter at the start. the 1050ti on my current build still has the stutter.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 23:18:41
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so I forgot this info a while ago but Nvidia has a debug mode which disables any factory overclock from the vendor and gives it a stock setting. So i turned that on and it seems to not artifact anymore. The motherboard and CPU shouldnt be the issue if its stable in debug mode right?
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/04 23:25:46
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Zaruchen so I forgot this info a while ago but Nvidia has a debug mode which disables any factory overclock from the vendor and gives it a stock setting. So i turned that on and it seems to not artifact anymore. The motherboard and CPU shouldnt be the issue if its stable in debug mode right?
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 08:00:34
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I was able to run the heaven benchmark for 8 hours, when before it would act up in 5-10 minutes.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 08:15:48
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Zaruchen I was able to run the heaven benchmark for 8 hours, when before it would act up in 5-10 minutes.
Let them know.. case closed.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 11:49:02
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Zaruchen I was able to run the heaven benchmark for 8 hours, when before it would act up in 5-10 minutes.
Let them know.. case closed.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 15:56:23
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Only thing that bothers me is a x97 4790k mobo does not give the same issues. What could that be?
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 16:02:13
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Zaruchen Only thing that bothers me is a x97 4790k mobo does not give the same issues. What could that be?
Would have to know the builds of ea.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 16:27:40
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Zaruchen Only thing that bothers me is a x97 4790k mobo does not give the same issues. What could that be?
Do more extensive testing. I'm sure it'll show up sooner or later.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 16:42:55
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Zaruchen Only thing that bothers me is a x97 4790k mobo does not give the same issues. What could that be?
Do more extensive testing. I'm sure it'll show up sooner or later.
speak of the devil It just happened in furmark I noticed that the z97 board has it at x8 3.0 so I'm unsure if that has to do with it being more difficult to be unstable. I pushed the power target a bit before it happened
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 17:25:49
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Should be set to 16x. Though there not much difference between 8x and 16x.. maybe a percent or 2 in speed.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 17:31:47
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AHowes Should be set to 16x. Though there not much difference between 8x and 16x.. maybe a percent or 2 in speed.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/05 17:40:50
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AHowes Should be set to 16x. Though there not much difference between 8x and 16x.. maybe a percent or 2 in speed.
yeah not sure why its stuck at 8x on z97, heaven so far doesn't cause the artifacting, furmark does at a lower gpu clock than heaven Here is the driver crash and hard reset for furmark And this is from OCCT
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/06 12:22:52
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Just wanted to add that EVGA is sending me a new card since its only been barely 2 months since i got the original card and hopefully no more issues. Sajin Could be a windows bug. Might want to try loading a older version of windows 10.
How would i return to an older version of windows 10 for the stuttering and hang at the login. I used the USB tool to install windows and I am pretty sure it uses the latest version sadly . So without the driver installed (Basic Drivers from Microsoft) and using the IGPU, I do not get these stutters or small hangs. ONly when the drivers are installed it happens at the same point when starting up on the desktop. I tried a 1050TI as well as different PCI slot and it still happens after drivers are installed. I also tried removing all my pci addons and USB slot as well as a fresh install of windows and still happens at the indicated points. I just hope it isnt a motherboard issue haha, but I kind of doubt it. I noticed that wmi provider host has 20% cpu usage spike after the 1-2 second stutter at logging in, what is that?
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/06 13:46:47
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Don't you think if windows was the cause everyone would be talking about it??
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/06 13:48:02
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Seems to me it's prob an anti virus running scanning mem or the windows folder on boot up.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/06 13:49:57
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AHowes Don't you think if windows was the cause everyone would be talking about it??
Nope. Some bugs only affect certain setups.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/06 14:32:12
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Well as long as it's not the cpu or mobo I'm fine with that til more updates and drivers come for a pretty recent mobo and cpu haha, now to wait for the new card.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/06 16:10:09
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That makes more sense since it's a new chipset and gpu. Should be on those makers forums to see if anyone else is experiencing the same.. then you'll know it's that.
And why it's not happening on the older chipset.
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Re: System hangs for 2 seconds at startup
2017/12/09 00:02:49
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Im about to break down and cry right now because of this issue. I got the new RMA card today, its NEW but theres a problem. It doesnt run as it should, its 50% slower than the bad card and the voltages are not properly raising to increase the performance. Any changes to the fan profiles on EVGA precision will cause the computer to stutter heavily. Keep in mind the old card in debug mode works fine, it had a bad OC otherwise. I swapped the NEW card for the old one and it runs as it should in games and benchmarks. I ran 3dmark and here are the results. This is the bad card on DEBUG MODE https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23850205? This is the new card i got https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2897251 It doesnt make sense to me. I doubt its my motherboard and CPU because if it was, then the results would have been the same. I reinstalled windows and did DDU for both cards
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