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2018/02/09 15:53:24 (permalink)
Hello,
   I have went around in circles trying to figure this out, before I previously had a 1060 6GB, and until I had time I just stuck the card in and it worked fine with the exception that if I tried to OC through Precision it would crash games and benchmarks, eventually I upgraded to a NVME Samsung 960 EVO and reinstalled the OS and such, now when playing games they crash and artifact green and red/pink. Sometimes I get a hard lockup while other times bringing up the taskmanager I can recover. Doom just crashes, Shadow Warrior 2 crashes and sometimes freezes when a menu is brought up, on the old OS I didn't have these issues, and it never crashed off stock clocks, also now I can apparently run 3Dmark forever benchmarking and have no issues, only in Games. The card self Clocks to 1911Mhz. No overheating although the backplate does get hot to the touch, max I seen it was around 68C. I'm stumped on this one.
 
  So with that being said, I used DDU in safe mode uninstalled anything and everything that may effect the system(CAM/AsusSuite/Precision/GfE), removed OC in the Bios,and tried again. Checked the power supply and all available connections and moved to using 2 8pin"6pin" PCIe cables. Power supply seems fine. Just about Everything I can do I did except NVidia debug mode, everything looks golden according to GPUz, which is baffling.
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I am going to trouble shoot it for a couple days and Monday I think I'm going to RMA the card if I can't figure it out.
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Any help will be appreciated, I mean the card isn't overheating, and voltage wise it seems fine. I may have a Dud, or it could be something stupid I am overlooking.
 
 
 
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/09 16:06:59 (permalink)
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    Hello,
       I have went around in circles trying to figure this out, before I previously had a 1060 6GB, and until I had time I just stuck the card in and it worked fine with the exception that if I tried to OC through Precision it would crash games and benchmarks, eventually I upgraded to a NVME Samsung 960 EVO and reinstalled the OS and such, now when playing games they crash and artifact green and red/pink. Sometimes I get a hard lockup while other times bringing up the taskmanager I can recover. Doom just crashes, Shadow Warrior 2 crashes and sometimes freezes when a menu is brought up, on the old OS I didn't have these issues, and it never crashed off stock clocks, also now I can apparently run 3Dmark forever benchmarking and have no issues, only in Games. The card self Clocks to 1911Mhz. No overheating although the backplate does get hot to the touch, max I seen it was around 68C. I'm stumped on this one.
     
      So with that being said, I used DDU in safe mode uninstalled anything and everything that may effect the system(CAM/AsusSuite/Precision/GfE), removed OC in the Bios,and tried again. Checked the power supply and all available connections and moved to using 2 8pin"6pin" PCIe cables. Power supply seems fine. Just about Everything I can do I did except NVidia debug mode, everything looks golden according to GPUz, which is baffling.
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    I am going to trouble shoot it for a couple days and Monday I think I'm going to RMA the card if I can't figure it out.
    ......
    Any help will be appreciated, I mean the card isn't overheating, and voltage wise it seems fine. I may have a Dud, or it could be something stupid I am overlooking.
     
     
     


    Have you tried underclocking the GPU?  Same effect as using the debug mode.

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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/10 21:56:29 (permalink)
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    Hello,
       I have went around in circles trying to figure this out, before I previously had a 1060 6GB, and until I had time I just stuck the card in and it worked fine with the exception that if I tried to OC through Precision it would crash games and benchmarks, eventually I upgraded to a NVME Samsung 960 EVO and reinstalled the OS and such, now when playing games they crash and artifact green and red/pink. Sometimes I get a hard lockup while other times bringing up the taskmanager I can recover. Doom just crashes, Shadow Warrior 2 crashes and sometimes freezes when a menu is brought up, on the old OS I didn't have these issues, and it never crashed off stock clocks, also now I can apparently run 3Dmark forever benchmarking and have no issues, only in Games. The card self Clocks to 1911Mhz. No overheating although the backplate does get hot to the touch, max I seen it was around 68C. I'm stumped on this one.
     
      So with that being said, I used DDU in safe mode uninstalled anything and everything that may effect the system(CAM/AsusSuite/Precision/GfE), removed OC in the Bios,and tried again. Checked the power supply and all available connections and moved to using 2 8pin"6pin" PCIe cables. Power supply seems fine. Just about Everything I can do I did except NVidia debug mode, everything looks golden according to GPUz, which is baffling.
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    Asus BD-RW USB3.0Drive 
    ......
    I am going to trouble shoot it for a couple days and Monday I think I'm going to RMA the card if I can't figure it out.
    ......
    Any help will be appreciated, I mean the card isn't overheating, and voltage wise it seems fine. I may have a Dud, or it could be something stupid I am overlooking.
     
     
     


    Have you tried underclocking the GPU?  Same effect as using the debug mode.




     
    Yes I have all the way, that Precision XOC will allow, alas still the same crashes. till though that would be an RMA anyways.
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 16:16:23 (permalink)
    10% voltage increase and 90% power target and it runs stable so far, Looks like I'm going to have to RMA it, Somethings up with either power delivery or the chip is no good, as it can't handle Boost 3.0. PSU is good(Titan ran fine in it, so did a 1060 6GB ) but this could be an issue of where its this card is just exceptionally picky, wondering if I should start the RMA and buy a new power supply just in case.....
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 17:08:08 (permalink)
    Have you tried connecting the gpu normally to the mb without the pci-e ribbon cable? Other cards were installed the same way with the riser cable?

      
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 17:36:25 (permalink)
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    Have you tried connecting the gpu normally to the mb without the pci-e ribbon cable? Other cards were installed the same way with the riser cable?



    .....Not using the extension cable nor am I using the bracket, I ended up getting the EVGA 1080 Ti ICX gaming card because of the length, it fits perfectly with the X62 Kraken Radiator.
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 17:38:02 (permalink)

     
    Fixed it.

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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 17:39:57 (permalink)
    LOL TY...sorry its a bit of a mess I still working and its all apart atm.
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 17:41:33 (permalink)
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    LOL TY...sorry its a bit of a mess I still working and its all apart atm.


    I've seen worse.  Is that power plug, looking down on the bottom right of the PSU, all the way in?
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 17:49:23 (permalink)
    Yep, both are plugged in and I have swapped cables(2 8*pin PCIe) just to make sure the cables were not the problem.
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 18:04:19 (permalink)
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    LOL TY...sorry its a bit of a mess I still working and its all apart atm.


    I've seen worse.  Is that power plug, looking down on the bottom right of the PSU, all the way in?




    That's the CPU Type 3 cable as well, its a bit different and has a bit larger of a plug compared to the PCIe cable connectors, Someone mentioned in another forum that because the PSU has the Intelligent 12V+ rail that there is an issue with power phasing on some PSU's and the 1080ti apparently is very finicky about it. I think I might order a AX860(Seasonic part) or a HX1000(has single and multi rail switching) they are both Plat rated and can use the same sleeved cables I already have. They stated there may be actually nothing wrong with the PSU but it still may be the issue, I can always use it in something else, ironically the Titan didn't have the issue, which confuses me a little bit.
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 18:17:28 (permalink)
    Grab the single rail hehe. Psu's were better back when with the single rail design. Just give me a huge single 12v rail thanks.

      
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 19:08:37 (permalink)
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    Grab the single rail hehe. Psu's were better back when with the single rail design. Just give me a huge single 12v rail thanks.



    Yep that is true, my previous PSU was a "PC Power and Cooling - Silencer 750 Quad" it was a beast with a single 12V+ but back then in the Asus Striker Extreme and Intel Q6600 days they didn't believe in modular power supplies or they were 4-6 rails with bronze certifications, It ran 2x XFX XXX-8800Ultras in SLI(1 of my friends had EVGA Ultras in SLI) later I sold the Ultras and I switched to EVGA, I had 2x 9800 GX2 SSC in SLI which was Uber beast running SLI with 3 of the GPUs running as a 3 way SLI and the 4th GPU dedicated to Phyx, Later I got 2x 285 Classifieds on a Asus Rampage X-58, then eventually I downgraded to a 760 SSC 4GB on a matx Maximus, My "Eco gaming Box"...LOL, now things have changed again.....
     
    So here is my plan for this, Corsair AX860 Plat, I should get it in about 3-4 days, and hopefully fingers crossed, it was a "they didn't play well together" type of situation, and from there ..................... if it's still giving me $h!t I will just RMA(the 1080Ti).
    ....
    Everything else I tested, just to make sure my buddy Tuesday is loaning me his 1080ti FTW3 to be a nail in the coffin of sorts of helping to rule anything else out. Guess I should get started leak testing his new custom loop.....sometimes it pains me being the hardware guy....
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/11 20:37:30 (permalink)
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    AHowes
    Grab the single rail hehe. Psu's were better back when with the single rail design. Just give me a huge single 12v rail thanks.



    Yep that is true, my previous PSU was a "PC Power and Cooling - Silencer 750 Quad" it was a beast with a single 12V+ but back then in the Asus Striker Extreme and Intel Q6600 days they didn't believe in modular power supplies or they were 4-6 rails with bronze certifications, It ran 2x XFX XXX-8800Ultras in SLI(1 of my friends had EVGA Ultras in SLI) later I sold the Ultras and I switched to EVGA, I had 2x 9800 GX2 SSC in SLI which was Uber beast running SLI with 3 of the GPUs running as a 3 way SLI and the 4th GPU dedicated to Phyx, Later I got 2x 285 Classifieds on a Asus Rampage X-58, then eventually I downgraded to a 760 SSC 4GB on a matx Maximus, My "Eco gaming Box"...LOL, now things have changed again.....
     
    So here is my plan for this, Corsair AX860 Plat, I should get it in about 3-4 days, and hopefully fingers crossed, it was a "they didn't play well together" type of situation, and from there ..................... if it's still giving me $h!t I will just RMA(the 1080Ti).
    ....
    Everything else I tested, just to make sure my buddy Tuesday is loaning me his 1080ti FTW3 to be a nail in the coffin of sorts of helping to rule anything else out. Guess I should get started leak testing his new custom loop.....sometimes it pains me being the hardware guy....


    Good to have friends with good current rigs hehe.

      
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/13 05:44:18 (permalink)
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    Grab the single rail hehe. Psu's were better back when with the single rail design. Just give me a huge single 12v rail thanks.



    Yep that is true, my previous PSU was a "PC Power and Cooling - Silencer 750 Quad" it was a beast with a single 12V+ but back then in the Asus Striker Extreme and Intel Q6600 days they didn't believe in modular power supplies or they were 4-6 rails with bronze certifications, It ran 2x XFX XXX-8800Ultras in SLI(1 of my friends had EVGA Ultras in SLI) later I sold the Ultras and I switched to EVGA, I had 2x 9800 GX2 SSC in SLI which was Uber beast running SLI with 3 of the GPUs running as a 3 way SLI and the 4th GPU dedicated to Phyx, Later I got 2x 285 Classifieds on a Asus Rampage X-58, then eventually I downgraded to a 760 SSC 4GB on a matx Maximus, My "Eco gaming Box"...LOL, now things have changed again.....
     
    So here is my plan for this, Corsair AX860 Plat, I should get it in about 3-4 days, and hopefully fingers crossed, it was a "they didn't play well together" type of situation, and from there ..................... if it's still giving me $h!t I will just RMA(the 1080Ti).
    ....
    Everything else I tested, just to make sure my buddy Tuesday is loaning me his 1080ti FTW3 to be a nail in the coffin of sorts of helping to rule anything else out. Guess I should get started leak testing his new custom loop.....sometimes it pains me being the hardware guy....


    Good to have friends with good current rigs hehe.



    Agreed, though its also good to have friends to pass hand me downs to, some insist on paying something, which is cool, and sometimes when we do run into issues with compatibility someone usually always tries it and if it works buys it from you.
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/21 20:14:50 (permalink)
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    Grab the single rail hehe. Psu's were better back when with the single rail design. Just give me a huge single 12v rail thanks.



    Yep that is true, my previous PSU was a "PC Power and Cooling - Silencer 750 Quad" it was a beast with a single 12V+ but back then in the Asus Striker Extreme and Intel Q6600 days they didn't believe in modular power supplies or they were 4-6 rails with bronze certifications, It ran 2x XFX XXX-8800Ultras in SLI(1 of my friends had EVGA Ultras in SLI) later I sold the Ultras and I switched to EVGA, I had 2x 9800 GX2 SSC in SLI which was Uber beast running SLI with 3 of the GPUs running as a 3 way SLI and the 4th GPU dedicated to Phyx, Later I got 2x 285 Classifieds on a Asus Rampage X-58, then eventually I downgraded to a 760 SSC 4GB on a matx Maximus, My "Eco gaming Box"...LOL, now things have changed again.....
     
    So here is my plan for this, Corsair AX860 Plat, I should get it in about 3-4 days, and hopefully fingers crossed, it was a "they didn't play well together" type of situation, and from there ..................... if it's still giving me $h!t I will just RMA(the 1080Ti).
    ....
    Everything else I tested, just to make sure my buddy Tuesday is loaning me his 1080ti FTW3 to be a nail in the coffin of sorts of helping to rule anything else out. Guess I should get started leak testing his new custom loop.....sometimes it pains me being the hardware guy....


    Good to have friends with good current rigs hehe.

     
    OK, so here is an update,
    So a Titan, 760 4GB, and an 1080 ti FTW OC'd to 2.1Ghz are apparently all working ok,
    So I swapped back to my 1080Ti,
    ..............driver crash hard lockup on Heaven Benchmark,
    afterwards on boot up,
    The Q code my CH6 hesitates at b2(GPU light) and then fully stops at a 0D with no activity on the monitor other than the wake from sleep mode. so now the card is definitely toasted, it just stopped, or finally gave up apparently.
     
    So , calling EVGA for an RMA, in the end it was a bad card.
     
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/22 00:09:17 (permalink)
    Sorry to hear that the card will have to have an RMA. 
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/22 15:32:57 (permalink)
    Hi, i have a 1080ti SC black that is crashing as well.  Heaven benchmark in two spots consistently.  I have had to down clock to 90% power target to reduce the frequency of crashes in games (they still happen).  I don't have another PSU to test with and my old card is a 280x.  The thing is the card ran great for a couple of weeks, and the 1080 ftw2 i had before step up worked fine for months.  Not sure what to think, when my card clocks up using boost 2?3.0? to around 1940+mhz it crashes. In games if i alt-tab it'll crash.  Is it possible the factory overclock is just unstable?  Not really wanting to RMA but will if i have to.  Thanks
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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/22 15:49:04 (permalink)
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    Hi, i have a 1080ti SC black that is crashing as well.  Heaven benchmark in two spots consistently.  I have had to down clock to 90% power target to reduce the frequency of crashes in games (they still happen).  I don't have another PSU to test with and my old card is a 280x.  The thing is the card ran great for a couple of weeks, and the 1080 ftw2 i had before step up worked fine for months.  Not sure what to think, when my card clocks up using boost 2?3.0? to around 1940+mhz it crashes. In games if i alt-tab it'll crash.  Is it possible the factory overclock is just unstable?  Not really wanting to RMA but will if i have to.  Thanks


    Yep, sounds like a unstable factory oc to me. If you need further assistance please start your own thread.


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    Re: 1080Ti - Crashing 2018/02/22 16:12:01 (permalink)
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    Hi, i have a 1080ti SC black that is crashing as well.  Heaven benchmark in two spots consistently.  I have had to down clock to 90% power target to reduce the frequency of crashes in games (they still happen).  I don't have another PSU to test with and my old card is a 280x.  The thing is the card ran great for a couple of weeks, and the 1080 ftw2 i had before step up worked fine for months.  Not sure what to think, when my card clocks up using boost 2?3.0? to around 1940+mhz it crashes. In games if i alt-tab it'll crash.  Is it possible the factory overclock is just unstable?  Not really wanting to RMA but will if i have to.  Thanks




     
    Seems similar to my situation, It wasn't the power supply, One major thing I noticed is my boost 3.0 clocks were like the chip was on crack(Heaven benchmark it would start on 1640 and boost all over the place to 1760 and down clock back and forth all while less than 65C on all temp probes) it bounced all over the place and would never settle for very long on any actual frequency, also the card would crash on anything above 70% power load, another thing to look at is the amp voltage and the power limit, from what I had seen the Amps were all over the place almost like banging off a rev limiter in a car. Later I watched a Jays2cents video and noticed I probably should have exchanged the card right away, he had the same model and watching him benchmark on Heaven his boost clocks were all but locked on 1733mhz at 72C all the way through in a tiny crimped ITX build, at this point you can immediately tell its the card, but then again while gathering data my card hard crashed its last.
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