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Good evening all, i i have recently purchased this monster of a card and would like to know where I'm going wrong with running these benchmarks, I have a 1080 ti FTW3 whats running but on fire strike, there comes a time where the power stops drawing from full and goes from 110% draw to 70% dropping the framerate with it from 100+ down to 40 fps. i dont know quite where i'm going wrong with the tune but ill try and upload some screenshots to show what i mean, during the benchmark, the card runs happily at full tilt but falls off a cliff when the fight scene starts generally, then the card will stay in this state say till a reset. HWInfo says its drawing 319w and the sensors aren't getting hot, fans on 100%.   my system as is 8600k 5ghz 1.35v g52 kraken aio 16GB Gskill trident z Asus strix z370 g 1080 ti ftw3 evga 750w fq gold. any feed back would be greatly appreciated. the card is ran in OC mode with 127% 50 and under on the clock and around 700 on the memory, adv system settings set to performance, g sync off, performance power plan off the top of my head. Thank you best regards.
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 15:05:33
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Good evening all,
i i have recently purchased this monster of a card and would like to know where I'm going wrong with running these benchmarks, I have a 1080 ti FTW3 whats running but on fire strike, there comes a time where the power stops drawing from full and goes from 110% draw to 70% dropping the framerate with it from 100+ down to 40 fps.
i dont know quite where i'm going wrong with the tune but ill try and upload some screenshots to show what i mean, during the benchmark, the card runs happily at full tilt but falls off a cliff when the fight scene starts generally, then the card will stay in this state say till a reset. HWInfo says its drawing 319w and the sensors aren't getting hot, fans on 100%.
 
my system as is
8600k 5ghz 1.35v g52 kraken aio
16GB Gskill trident z
Asus strix z370 g
1080 ti ftw3
evga 750w fq gold.
any feed back would be greatly appreciated. the card is ran in OC mode with 127% 50 and under on the clock and around 700 on the memory, adv system settings set to performance, g sync off, performance power plan off the top of my head. Thank you best regards.
The fight scene you're talking about is not a pure GPU test, it is also testing the CPU, that is why the GPU utilization drops and the FPS drops. It is a function of the test, not a flaw in your hardware.
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 15:12:26
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i see, but the card will continue to pull around 70% of total power and run at 40is fps from then on, i was wondering if ive triggered something on the OS edit, ive reset and ran another run on the first scene of the benchmark with maxed power and temp target and the slider to 100% and this is the result. I can see where you are talking about the scene becoming more cpu intensive but, on this setting, the card continues to pull over 100% throughout the run, also the fps stay above 40. 
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 15:23:35
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i see, but the card will continue to pull around 70% of total power and run at 40is fps from then on, i was wondering if ive triggered something on the OS
Can you explain more clearly what you mean? Are you saying that after you run the bench the first time, if you run it again, your performance is reduced? What restores the performance? A reboot?
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 15:27:56
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i see, but the card will continue to pull around 70% of total power and run at 40is fps from then on, i was wondering if ive triggered something on the OS
Can you explain more clearly what you mean? Are you saying that after you run the bench the first time, if you run it again, your performance is reduced? What restores the performance? A reboot?
once ive ran the test and hit that cliff, the card will continue to run as stated until i reboot windows and log back in.
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 15:28:42
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i see, but the card will continue to pull around 70% of total power and run at 40is fps from then on, i was wondering if ive triggered something on the OS
Can you explain more clearly what you mean? Are you saying that after you run the bench the first time, if you run it again, your performance is reduced? What restores the performance? A reboot?
once ive ran the test and hit that cliff, the card will continue to run as stated until i reboot windows and log back in.
Are you overclocking the GPU or leaving it at stock?
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 15:33:25
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i see, but the card will continue to pull around 70% of total power and run at 40is fps from then on, i was wondering if ive triggered something on the OS
Can you explain more clearly what you mean? Are you saying that after you run the bench the first time, if you run it again, your performance is reduced? What restores the performance? A reboot?
once ive ran the test and hit that cliff, the card will continue to run as stated until i reboot windows and log back in.
Are you overclocking the GPU or leaving it at stock?
the first screenshots were overclocked, the second screenshot was stock with maximum power and temp sliders set, the issue im trying to point to is the difference in the total power differences between the overclocked state and the stock state
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 15:57:43
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i see, but the card will continue to pull around 70% of total power and run at 40is fps from then on, i was wondering if ive triggered something on the OS
Can you explain more clearly what you mean? Are you saying that after you run the bench the first time, if you run it again, your performance is reduced? What restores the performance? A reboot?
once ive ran the test and hit that cliff, the card will continue to run as stated until i reboot windows and log back in.
Are you overclocking the GPU or leaving it at stock?
the first screenshots were overclocked, the second screenshot was stock with maximum power and temp sliders set, the issue im trying to point to is the difference in the total power differences between the overclocked state and the stock state
Okay, what happened to you is the GPU crashed and went into protection mode when you had it overclocked. If this does not happen under stock clocks, that is your issue. Remember, your GPU is already over clocked, so whatever offset you add is in addition to the factory overclock. Anything over ~2000mhz is the luck of the draw. As your image shows your max GPU clock being 2037, I'd say that was your issue.
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 16:15:41
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i see, but the card will continue to pull around 70% of total power and run at 40is fps from then on, i was wondering if ive triggered something on the OS
Can you explain more clearly what you mean? Are you saying that after you run the bench the first time, if you run it again, your performance is reduced? What restores the performance? A reboot?
once ive ran the test and hit that cliff, the card will continue to run as stated until i reboot windows and log back in.
Are you overclocking the GPU or leaving it at stock?
the first screenshots were overclocked, the second screenshot was stock with maximum power and temp sliders set, the issue im trying to point to is the difference in the total power differences between the overclocked state and the stock state
Okay, what happened to you is the GPU crashed and went into protection mode when you had it overclocked. If this does not happen under stock clocks, that is your issue. Remember, your GPU is already over clocked, so whatever offset you add is in addition to the factory overclock. Anything over ~2000mhz is the luck of the draw. As your image shows your max GPU clock being 2037, I'd say that was your issue.
that would make sense, thank you
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/15 16:34:30
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that would make sense, thank you
No problem. It is sometimes hard to figure out what exactly is happening. Back in the 'olden days', you crashed with nice sparkly dots all over the screen or psychedelic shards, artifacts. Now, the OS handles some soft errors, the GPU has it's own error correction and power correction and they don't give you a message code to tell you what happened. Something else to remember is when setting your offset, that it does not work in 1mhz steps. There are actually clock bins in steps of ~12.5mhz. So to increase your overclock one frequency bin or step, you would add +13 to the core. The next step is +25, then +38 then +50 and so on.
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Re: 1080 ti FTW3 power and framerate drop on 3DMark
2018/11/16 09:47:13
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+1 to what HeavyHemi said.
It all comes down to silicon lottery on the GPU Chip and Memory and where they like to clock out of the box then you add an OC on top, some peeps can only add +12 and some add +80 but they all generally end up somewhere between 2025mhx - 2100(+)mhz
My 1080ti FTW3 on water likes to start at 2050 then drop to either 2025-2037 with a +52 OC. If I bump it to +65 it will hold the 2037 better when bench marking
If you are hitting the 2025 - 2037 mark with less +** then yours is clocking better out of the box but have less OC headroom before you hit the limit for your chip
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