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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 06:31:33 (permalink)
So does the "unofficial fix" really fix the issue? Or does it lower the overclock?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 11:32:42 (permalink)
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So does the "unofficial fix" really fix the issue? Or does it lower the overclock?
will do more resting evening and will come back.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 12:04:30 (permalink)
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So does the "unofficial fix" really fix the issue? Or does it lower the overclock?

will do more resting evening and will come back.

How will Resting this evening make any difference?

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 12:08:51 (permalink)
Thanks Sajin you are the mvp and so is Vince. I know EVGA has rules to follow from Nvidia, but seeing EVGA not taking care of this while at the same time leaving us with no answer for a lonnng time was troublesome if you ask me tbh.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 13:32:57 (permalink)
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So does the "unofficial fix" really fix the issue? Or does it lower the overclock?

will do more resting evening and will come back.

How will Resting this evening make any difference?




Hahahahaha! He meant re-testing most probably!

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 15:01:43 (permalink)
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So does the "unofficial fix" really fix the issue? Or does it lower the overclock?

will do more resting evening and will come back.

How will Resting this evening make any difference?




Hahahahaha! He meant re-testing most probably!


lol, dictionary from my phone did that ;-P
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 15:41:07 (permalink)
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Those aren't Elite bios. I want to see if 12GHz will work correctly now on my FTW3 Hybrid without touching any settings. 


Yup.
Sorry
My mistake.
I thought the 12Ghz were supposed to be used with the Elite cards because of the mem. band.
6699 is for Hydro Copper ICX correct?
 


You're correct it's a Hydro Copper. 
 
I flashed my Hybrid with Elite BIOS and it does overclock the regular FTW3 cards memory to 12GHz. Had some issues in games with minor stuff like certain textures and whatnot glitching.
 
Just wonder if the issues that have been addressed with the newer BIOS will maybe correct it. IDK 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 16:09:02 (permalink)
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Those aren't Elite bios. I want to see if 12GHz will work correctly now on my FTW3 Hybrid without touching any settings. 


Yup.
Sorry
My mistake.
I thought the 12Ghz were supposed to be used with the Elite cards because of the mem. band.
6699 is for Hydro Copper ICX correct?
 


You're correct it's a Hydro Copper. 
 
I flashed my Hybrid with Elite BIOS and it does overclock the regular FTW3 cards memory to 12GHz. Had some issues in games with minor stuff like certain textures and whatnot glitching.
 
Just wonder if the issues that have been addressed with the newer BIOS will maybe correct it. IDK 


12Ghz is stretching it for stability on 11ghz memory. I can bench at 12.6 but I get crashing in games over +500.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 16:44:14 (permalink)
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So does the "unofficial fix" really fix the issue? Or does it lower the overclock?


seems to get even better graphics score (ignore cpu), new and old bios, same overclock.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/3456466/spy/3094383
 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 19:46:59 (permalink)
Looks like an improvement. Graphics score in time spy went up not by a lot. 4k superposition score went up not by alot. Clocks still dance, but not as dramatic as before and way more consistent. TDP peaks at 131% ish and avgs mid 120's. Same overclock. And card will run hotter with the extra power. 
www.3dmark.c(o)m/compare/spy/3457015/spy/3456890#
imgur.c(o)m/a/yH7RK
 
(remove the parenthesis) 
 
 
 
 
post edited by jhang3402 - 2018/03/16 19:51:02
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/16 20:26:59 (permalink)
Nice.. Wish I could partake but it will be a lot of work to flash my ftw3 elite card. Currently runing sli with a ftw3 hybrid.

First things first I need to delid my 8700k tomorrow and have some fun.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/17 04:24:13 (permalink)
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Nice.. Wish I could partake but it will be a lot of work to flash my ftw3 elite card. Currently runing sli with a ftw3 hybrid.

First things first I need to delid my 8700k tomorrow and have some fun.


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Delid.
Enjoy it .

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/17 14:44:41 (permalink)
So I did some more fine tuning.
 
I squeezed 4.2 on all cores from CPU, and it seems that it is max I can get, its with 1.27 voltage, going to 4.3 requires me to put 1.32 and clocks doesn't hold under load, it's not temp related or power limited by cpu, I think it might be hardware limitation of mobo with delivering of stable voltage/power.. If you have clues I can try.
 
Also GPU was able to get more juice with this new bios, I was able to put +60 on core and +850 on memory.
 
I'm limited by PCI lanes (x4), and my guess is also by CPU...
 
At least it seems its max I can get:
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3461784
 
 Edit:
 
At least I'm top1 with similar hardware ^^
 
https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode=advanced&url=/proxycon/ajax/search/cpugpu/spy/P/2037/1127/9899?minScore=8800&cpuName=Intel%20Core%20i7-6820HK%20Processor&gpuName=NVIDIA%20GeForce%20GTX%201080%20Ti
 

 
edit 2:
 
Superposition 8k optimized: 4787
 

post edited by pwawiernia - 2018/03/17 15:05:41

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/18 06:13:51 (permalink)
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So does the "unofficial fix" really fix the issue? Or does it lower the overclock?


seems to get even better graphics score (ignore cpu), new and old bios, same overclock.
 

 




Thanks for reporting back and good to know!
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 04:20:21 (permalink)
Anyone actually recieved any sort of performance degregation on the 1080ti FTW3 Air Cooler? , fans do seem to be running faster / louder on the k1ngp1n firmware.
I can confirm I can see the 127% power limit now. However my FPS seems to be worse now in dota2 and vermintide2 :(
 
Might have to roll back.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 12:20:24 (permalink)
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Anyone actually recieved any sort of performance degregation on the 1080ti FTW3 Air Cooler? , fans do seem to be running faster / louder on the k1ngp1n firmware.
I can confirm I can see the 127% power limit now. However my FPS seems to be worse now in dota2 and vermintide2 :(
 
Might have to roll back.




I have the FTW3 12GHz model and I flashed the slave.  I do notice that my power does hit the 127% mark, however I actually had to drop my memory OC slightly from +200 to +670 to avoid any stability issues in games (numbers look higher since it's a 11GHz BIOS).  Have not noticed any performance degradation issues though.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 12:26:12 (permalink)
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Anyone actually recieved any sort of performance degregation on the 1080ti FTW3 Air Cooler? , fans do seem to be running faster / louder on the k1ngp1n firmware.
I can confirm I can see the 127% power limit now. However my FPS seems to be worse now in dota2 and vermintide2 :(
 
Might have to roll back.


Did you roll back your card?

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 14:31:37 (permalink)
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Anyone actually recieved any sort of performance degregation on the 1080ti FTW3 Air Cooler? , fans do seem to be running faster / louder on the k1ngp1n firmware.
I can confirm I can see the 127% power limit now. However my FPS seems to be worse now in dota2 and vermintide2 :(
 
Might have to roll back.


Did you roll back your card?


Think I'm going to have to buddy. But I don't have the official EVGA original BIOS, does anyone have it at hand?
 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 15:21:37 (permalink)
The original slave vbios can be found in this file.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 16:19:42 (permalink)
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The original slave vbios can be found in this file.




Maybe the original slave vbios can be added to the first post in case someone needs to go back?

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 16:26:06 (permalink)
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The original slave vbios can be found in this file.




Maybe the original slave vbios can be added to the first post in case someone needs to go back?




That and, every thread involving BIOS's should have up front to BACK UP YOUR ORIGINAL BIOS AS STEP ONE!

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 17:54:01 (permalink)
For those who aren't aware Tech PowerUp has a repository for vbios and you can use GPUz to back up your bios before you flash.
It's always good practice to upload your Vbios to Tech PowerUp followed by saving a local backup using GPUz.
Clicking the lookup button will take you to your specific card but keep in mind that is before you flash to a new bios especially those that are not specifically for you card and you used the -6 command when flashing.
The good news is you can switch to the main bios on the FTW3 to get to the correct page if need be by following the procedure as laid out in the OP of this thread to switch bios.

 The likelihood of your original bios being hosted on Tech PowerUP is near 100%.
It may also be useful to jot down the original bios name as seen above in the Bios version field "86.02.39.00.01"
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 18:59:02 (permalink)
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The original slave vbios can be found in this file.




Maybe the original slave vbios can be added to the first post in case someone needs to go back?


The file is listed in the op already. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 19:24:37 (permalink)
Edited the op. Made it clear where to find the original slave vbios.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 19:41:14 (permalink)
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/19 19:43:06 (permalink)
No problem. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/20 03:48:57 (permalink)
Can you run primary and secondary executables whilst being on the same BIOS? I think this has been my problem in the first instance.
So actually being on the slave bios may be useful. I re-ran the secondary.exe and i'm seeing acceptable framerates now.
 
Do we actually know the origin of these firmwares? k1ngp1n writes on his forum as if he was given access to them, presumably an EVGA employee?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/20 08:47:33 (permalink)
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Can you run primary and secondary executables whilst being on the same BIOS? I think this has been my problem in the first instance.
So actually being on the slave bios may be useful. I re-ran the secondary.exe and i'm seeing acceptable framerates now.
 
Do we actually know the origin of these firmwares? k1ngp1n writes on his forum as if he was given access to them, presumably an EVGA employee?




The origin of the bioses is one of those dark secrets, if they told you they would have to kill you 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/20 08:48:32 (permalink)

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/20 08:50:10 (permalink)
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Can you run primary and secondary executables whilst being on the same BIOS? I think this has been my problem in the first instance.
So actually being on the slave bios may be useful. I re-ran the secondary.exe and i'm seeing acceptable framerates now.
 
Do we actually know the origin of these firmwares? k1ngp1n writes on his forum as if he was given access to them, presumably an EVGA employee?




The origin of the bioses is one of those dark secrets, if they told you they would have to kill you 


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