moosedoctor
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I'm getting super low FPS (~55 max) on the benchmark. I've turned off AA and gone through all the settings. Still low. I'm guessing this is one of those Intel games? Either my OC'd FX8350 can't hang, or my 1070sc. I don't think it's the 1070. What kind of scores are you guys getting on the Intel side?
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/24 21:01:50
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Well that all depends on your resolution and on top of having a older CPU (2012).
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/24 23:06:50
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It's the FX 8350 limiting your setup - lots of benchmarks out there and a few reviews that show this clearly. You can show it to yourself if you run in DirectX 12 (which DOES help noticeably vs. 11 with an octocore CPU) if you run the CPU benchmark and compare to the GPU benchmark without changing any of the settings. You'll get closer to "competative" at higher resolutions and settings as those add a lot more stress to the GPU without adding much if any to the CPU, but the pre-Ryzen AMD CPUs have not been competative with Intel high-end CPUs on demanding games like Ashes. PS - the last "gaming" rig I built uses a FX 8570 and a pair of RX 470 (NOT Crossfired, thank you, I do some crypto mining on the rig when I'm not gaming on it), but I KNEW ahead of time I wasn't going to see huge framerates on Ashes, testing I did on an older rig showed that even 20FPS is PLENTY playable on Ashes, and nothing else I play is even in the same ballpark for demand on the CPU.
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/25 01:45:58
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I had a feeling that the CPU and GPU have a backward thing going on. I downclocked the FX8350 to 4200, overclocked DDR3 Vengeance LP's to 2133. Set all load line calibration settings to auto. I set 1070's core +100, then +125 and memory 0, +150, then +250. I've never been able to go over +70mhz on core before. Ashes benchmark on High runs between 50-65 fps now. Looks great. Thanks. I still can't run a CPU benchmark because of a D3D11 error. I launch the dx12 exe, still runs on 11. I renamed all dx12's to dx11, and it still runs on 11. What is going on.
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/26 15:30:48
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Here are my results for 1080p Crazy Preset with my [old] 1070 and old Xeon cpu at 4.4Ghz for comparison: == Hardware Configuration ================================================ GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650 @ 2.67GHz Physical Cores: 6 Logical Cores: 12 Physical Memory: 16375 MB Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB ==========================================================================
== Configuration ========================================================= API: DirectX 12 ========================================================================== Quality Preset: Crazy ========================================================================== Resolution: 1920x1080 Fullscreen: True Bloom Quality: High PointLight Quality: High Glare Quality: High Shading Samples: 16 million Terrain Shading Samples: 12 million Shadow Quality: High Temporal AA Duration: 0 Temporal AA Time Slice: 0 Multisample Anti-Aliasing: 2x Texture Rank : 1
== Total Avg Results ================================================= Total Time: 60.006882 ms per frame Avg Framerate: 48.473347 FPS (20.629894 ms) Weighted Framerate: 47.809238 FPS (20.916460 ms) CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 76.188995 FPS (13.125256 ms) Percent GPU Bound: 99.587601 % Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 4345.171875 Batches Average Batches per frame: 12934.198242 Batches Average Particles simulated per frame 381946 ==========================================================================
== Results =============================================================== BenchMark 0 TestType: Full System Test == Sub Mark Normal Batch ================================================= Total Time: 70.963692 ms per frame Avg Framerate: 52.378899 FPS (19.091658 ms) Weighted Framerate: 51.274029 FPS (19.503052 ms) CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 85.503159 FPS (11.695475 ms) Percent GPU Bound: 99.421112 % Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 2637.885742 Batches Average Batches per frame: 5621.469238 Batches == Sub Mark Medium Batch ================================================= Total Time: 56.014915 ms per frame Avg Framerate: 48.272858 FPS (20.715576 ms) Weighted Framerate: 47.735039 FPS (20.948973 ms) CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 77.897186 FPS (12.837434 ms) Percent GPU Bound: 99.957619 % Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 3846.650879 Batches Average Batches per frame: 10447.278320 Batches == Sub Mark Heavy Batch ================================================= Total Time: 53.042042 ms per frame Avg Framerate: 45.284836 FPS (22.082447 ms) Weighted Framerate: 44.848377 FPS (22.297350 ms) CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 67.372475 FPS (14.842856 ms) Percent GPU Bound: 99.384079 % Driver throughput (Batches per ms): 6340.535645 Batches Average Batches per frame: 22733.847656 Batches
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/27 23:39:10
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☼ Best Answerby moosedoctor 2017/05/28 14:25:31
moosedoctor I had a feeling that the CPU and GPU have a backward thing going on. I downclocked the FX8350 to 4200, overclocked DDR3 Vengeance LP's to 2133. Set all load line calibration settings to auto. I set 1070's core +100, then +125 and memory 0, +150, then +250. I've never been able to go over +70mhz on core before. Ashes benchmark on High runs between 50-65 fps now. Looks great. Thanks. I still can't run a CPU benchmark because of a D3D11 error. I launch the dx12 exe, still runs on 11. I renamed all dx12's to dx11, and it still runs on 11. What is going on.
You have to set dx12 option in the settings menu, THEN restart Ashes and run the DX12 exe. Otherwise it doesn't "take". The really irritating thing - to have Ashes use 2 cards, you have to turn on DX12, THEN restart Ashes, THEN you can set the "use 2 cards" option, then restart Ashes AGAIN, then you actually get to finally play with 2 cards in use. On the other hand, Ashes is a game that plays quite comfortably with a 20-30 fps framerate, as long as you're not getting stuttering. It's not like a first-person-shooter or any other "twitch" type game where less than 60 threatens to become unplayable.
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/28 14:29:27
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QuintLeo You have to set dx12 option in the settings menu, THEN restart Ashes and run the DX12 exe. Otherwise it doesn't "take". The really irritating thing - to have Ashes use 2 cards, you have to turn on DX12, THEN restart Ashes, THEN you can set the "use 2 cards" option, then restart Ashes AGAIN, then you actually get to finally play with 2 cards in use. On the other hand, Ashes is a game that plays quite comfortably with a 20-30 fps framerate, as long as you're not getting stuttering. It's not like a first-person-shooter or any other "twitch" type game where less than 60 threatens to become unplayable.
Thank you very much. This works. I am still limited to 45-50fps. Looking at the detailed summary & my hardware monitor = FX isn't cut out for the job. CPU limits FPS to 45. The CPU benchmark is now available (kudos QuintLeo) and it runs very poorly. Time to switch to the blue team as soon as the new Skylake drives down the current gen's $.
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/28 14:31:57
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FscuderiaX Here are my results for 1080p Crazy Preset with my [old] 1070 and old Xeon cpu at 4.4Ghz for comparison: == Hardware Configuration ================================================ GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650 @ 2.67GHz Physical Cores: 6 Logical Cores: 12 Physical Memory: 16375 MB Allocatable Memory: 134217727 MB ========================================================================== CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 76.188995 FPS (13.125256 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 85.503159 FPS (11.695475 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 77.897186 FPS (12.837434 ms)
CPU frame rate (estimated if not GPU bound): 67.372475 FPS (14.842856 ms)
Thank you. AMD FX is clearly the bottleneck in my setup.
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Re: 1070SC + Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark
2017/05/28 17:32:34
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Or go Ryzen, which is at least competative with the Intel CPUs on gaming. Best I've gotten out of my FX 8570 rig with a pair of RX 470 on Ashes was around 35 FPS (but I don't run games in windowed mode, which supposedly would help the FPS some, and the game is fine with 30 FPS for good playability). I had to go to the lowest possible settings to get THAT far on my 2560x1440 monitor, but I find I prefer going up 1 step on some of the settings at the cost of 2-4 FPS to make the game look better.
Now that vorsholk has stopped his abuse, I'm returning to folding. I no longer MOO due to abuses by certain "whales" in the Gridcoin community - so I now work the Distributed.net project directly again.
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