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2016/07/27 09:24:13 (permalink)
so i don't know if i got this information wrong, but i thought the fans were not supposed to spin until the temps reach 60C??
 
the fans are spinning at 40% fan speed right now, at the desktop with no game running, and i'm not sure if this is supposed to be happening. i could have sworn the fans were not spinning at all, until the card hit 60C, when i first got the card a week ago.
 
also if i change the fan setting from aggressive to quiet it only slows down the fans to 30% and not off at the desktop. is this right??
 
can anyone help me here? not sure what to think. thx
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 09:31:39 (permalink)
    Which card do you have?

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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 09:41:56 (permalink)
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    Which card do you have?


    evga gtx 1080 ftw
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 09:45:01 (permalink)
    Did you switch the BIOS and then not switch it back?

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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 09:47:44 (permalink)
    A reboot is also required when switching the BIOS on your card.  Simply moving the selector switch will not change anything...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 09:53:06 (permalink)
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    Did you switch the BIOS and then not switch it back?


    is there a bios switch on the card? maybe i hit it and didn't realize it. i'm not overclocking it so i don't really pay attention to that stuff.
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 09:54:55 (permalink)
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    Did you switch the BIOS and then not switch it back?


    ok i see the switch and it is set to the left position. do i need to switch it to the right?
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:06:14 (permalink)
    It needs to be on the master setting.  Not sure which that is.  It is labeled on the card near the switch.  Just change it and reboot and see if that resolves the issue.
     
    If your power target in Precision shows 130%, it is in the slave mode.

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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:15:34 (permalink)
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    It needs to be on the master setting.  Not sure which that is.  It is labeled on the card near the switch.  Just change it and reboot and see if that resolves the issue.
     
    If your power target in Precision shows 130%, it is in the slave mode.


    ok i switched from th left setting to the right setting and it didn't seem to do anything. the fans are still spinning at 40%
     
    also, not sure if this info matters but i am using the latest drivers 368.81, and am running in pci-e 2.0 because my 3930k and asrock x79 motherboard doesn't like  pci-e 3.0 and the nvidia patch to get it working.
     
    EDIT - fans are now running ta 41% not 40%
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:28:48 (permalink)
    As mentioned above, did you reboot your system after making the switch?
     
    The 'slave' BIOS sets the fan to a minimum 20% (or maybe it is 30%) and increases your power limit.  I'm still pretty sure that is what you did.  If you did reboot and it didn't change, try to reboot again.  There is a forum post in here somewhere where a user had a problem with there system not catching the BIOS change the first time.

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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:32:43 (permalink)
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    As mentioned above, did you reboot your system after making the switch?
     
    The 'slave' BIOS sets the fan to a minimum 20% (or maybe it is 30%) and increases your power limit.  I'm still pretty sure that is what you did.  If you did reboot and it didn't change, try to reboot again.  There is a forum post in here somewhere where a user had a problem with there system not catching the BIOS change the first time.


    i switched it from left to right and then rebooted my pc. nothing really changed except it went from, 40% to 41%.
     
    ok. i will switch it to the right again and try rebooting the system 2 times. also if that doesn't work i will power down the pc and cold start. maybe that will work.
     
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:46:32 (permalink)
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    As mentioned above, did you reboot your system after making the switch?
     
    The 'slave' BIOS sets the fan to a minimum 20% (or maybe it is 30%) and increases your power limit.  I'm still pretty sure that is what you did.  If you did reboot and it didn't change, try to reboot again.  There is a forum post in here somewhere where a user had a problem with there system not catching the BIOS change the first time.


    ok. so i switched it from the original left setting to the right setting and rebooted and the fans are still spinning. so i rebooted a 2nd time and the fans are still spinning. then i powered down my pc and started from my pc being off and the fans are atill spinning. 
     
    the fan speed is now either 41%, 42% or jumping between 41% and 42%. IDK what to think.
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:46:59 (permalink)
    For the default setting, the switch should be away from the power connectors, I believe.  A cold boot may definitely be necessary as your system may not allow the BIOS change to be recognized otherwise.  I should have said that instead of a restart.
     
    EDIT:  Are you using PX or AB for overclocking or fan adjustment?
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:53:05 (permalink)
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    For the default setting, the switch should be away from the power connectors, I believe.  A cold boot may definitely be necessary as your system may not allow the BIOS change to be recognized otherwise.  I should have said that instead of a restart.


    ok i will switch it back to the left position (furthest away from the power connectors). this is the setting it was originally set at when i noticed the fans spinning at 40%.
     
    i will switch it back, turn off the pc, cold boot, check the fan speed. if it is still spinning at 40% i will turn it off a 2nd time and cold boot again. brb
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:53:49 (permalink)
    Sounds like the card may have the same vbios loaded on both the master & secondary.
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 10:59:29 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Sounds like the card may have the same vbios loaded on both the master & secondary.




    I wondered that, too, except he says in the OP that they were off before.  That is when I made the assumption that he moved the BIOS switch.  Other possibilities that he modified the fan curve in PX or AB and it starts at boot or his UEFI settings aren't allowing it to read the new BIOS?
     
    EDIT:  Can you run GPU-Z to see what BIOS is running under each setting, brownsfan70?
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:04:08 (permalink)
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    Sounds like the card may have the same vbios loaded on both the master & secondary.


    ok i just tried that and it didn't work.
     
    this time i watched the fans from the second i booted until it got to the desktop. the fans were not spinning until precision x oc loaded in win 7 the system tray. as soon as precision x oc loaded the fans started spinning. i have "start minimized", "start with OS" both turned on and also have it set to aggressive preset and "enable automatic fan control turned on"
     
    could it be one of these settings? the fans definitely started spinning once precision x loaded in the win 7 system tray. so i'm guessing it is precision x oc. you think it is precision x oc maybe?
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:04:20 (permalink)
    Yeah, make sure px & ab are completely uninstalled from the system as they could be applying custom fan curves on startup.
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:08:57 (permalink)
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    Yeah, make sure px & ab are completely uninstalled from the system as they could be applying custom fan curves on startup.




    Or don't allow it to start with windows.  You should also be able to turn off auto on the fans and will use the BIOS curve.  That is why I asked about using software in an earlier post.  Precision is running the fan curve you have set as Sajin said.
     
    If nothing else, you learned about the BIOS switch from all of this and a little more about PX.

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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:12:24 (permalink)
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    Sounds like the card may have the same vbios loaded on both the master & secondary.




    I wondered that, too, except he says in the OP that they were off before.  That is when I made the assumption that he moved the BIOS switch.  Other possibilities that he modified the fan curve in PX or AB and it starts at boot or his UEFI settings aren't allowing it to read the new BIOS?
     
    EDIT:  Can you run GPU-Z to see what BIOS is running under each setting, brownsfan70?


    ok i switched it back to stock (left position) and checked GPU-Z and the bios version is 86.04.17.00.80
     
    also i DID slightly alter the fan curve in aggressive mode. could that have screwed something up? i did NOT change or fiddle with the power in precision x oc.
     
    and the fan speed button on the lower right of precision x oc is set to ON (glowing aqua green).
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:18:59 (permalink)
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    Yeah, make sure px & ab are completely uninstalled from the system as they could be applying custom fan curves on startup.


    wait.. are you saying to uninstal precision x oc completely? and then game with it not being installed? won't that fry my video card? i'm guessing it won't fry my card because it didn't start up a few days ago and i was running either fallout 4 or assassin's creed black flag (i forget which it was) for like 3 hours or something and i checked my temps and noticed precision x oc wasn't on. so i quickly turned it on and it never even went over 41C and the fans never even spinned up anyways LOL :)
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:20:29 (permalink)
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    Yeah, make sure px & ab are completely uninstalled from the system as they could be applying custom fan curves on startup.


    ok i will try this. please pray my video card doesn't melt or explode! yipes! :)
    Or don't allow it to start with windows.  You should also be able to turn off auto on the fans and will use the BIOS curve.  That is why I asked about using software in an earlier post.  Precision is running the fan curve you have set as Sajin said.
     
    If nothing else, you learned about the BIOS switch from all of this and a little more about PX.




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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:22:16 (permalink)
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    Yeah, make sure px & ab are completely uninstalled from the system as they could be applying custom fan curves on startup.


    wait.. are you saying to uninstal precision x oc completely? and then game with it not being installed? won't that fry my video card? i'm guessing it won't fry my card because it didn't start up a few days ago and i was running either fallout 4 or assassin's creed black flag (i forget which it was) for like 3 hours or something and i checked my temps and noticed precision x oc wasn't on. so i quickly turned it on and it never even went over 41C and the fans never even spinned up anyways LOL :)


    Yes, uninstall it. Your card won't overheat without precision x.
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:29:15 (permalink)
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    Yeah, make sure px & ab are completely uninstalled from the system as they could be applying custom fan curves on startup.


    wait.. are you saying to uninstal precision x oc completely? and then game with it not being installed? won't that fry my video card? i'm guessing it won't fry my card because it didn't start up a few days ago and i was running either fallout 4 or assassin's creed black flag (i forget which it was) for like 3 hours or something and i checked my temps and noticed precision x oc wasn't on. so i quickly turned it on and it never even went over 41C and the fans never even spinned up anyways LOL :)


    Yes, uninstall it. Your card won't overheat without precision x.


    ok. i will try and that and run fallout 4 ultra / max. fo4, rise of the tomb raider, witcher 3 and enb  modded skyrim (with SFO) the only games that get the card hot enough to kick in the fans. i will run gpuz in the background and check temps.
     
    is there any way i can adjust the RGB lights on the card without precision x oc being turned on? and if not can you ask the software guys to make a separate app for the RGB lights? i LOVE those color changing RGB lights! they are very cool!
     
     EDIT: unchecked start with windows and the fans are not spinning at desktop now. it worked just by not starting up with precision x turned on at startup.
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:33:37 (permalink)
    Only way to adjust rgb lights is with precision x. Glad you figured out the issue. 
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 11:49:10 (permalink)
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    Only way to adjust rgb lights is with precision x. Glad you figured out the issue. 


    ok thx for your help :)
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    Re: why are my gtx 1080 fans spinning at desktop? 2016/07/27 12:25:07 (permalink)
    If you want precision to run for an over clock, just create a custom curve for the fans with them at zero on lower temps. Otherwise, only run PX by opening it when you need to adjust your RGB. I know in the latest version it writes to firmware on the card anyway so you wouldn't need it running except when you want to change (or for an over clock).

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