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People with Samsung memory EVGA FTW 1070. post when you got your card and what memory you recieved and if its running good with 372.90. Where you bought it? Also if you just got yours from newegg let me know what you got. Micron or Samsung Is the micron memory cards running ok with the new driver 372.90? anybody know? I'm sending mine back tomorrow to newegg. I am getting a new one of the same card. EVGA FTW 1070 1607 mhz card
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/26 18:33:35
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Not sure why people worry about whether they got Samsung or Micron memory on their card. Micron is not a "bad" company, and it does not produce an inferior product of GDDR5X. Samsung is of course a massive company compared to Micron, but there is little if any difference in the end product. They both have to go through the same stringent QC and meet the same standards. Both companies can have defective modules. It just happens with electronics. I wish someone could produce some accurate data showing the rates of defective modules produced by both companies. I'm betting they are pretty close. My 1080 FTW has Micron and it runs and OC's just fine.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/26 18:48:55
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Agreed completely. There is no difference in the quality.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/26 19:55:18
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The problem is that they put the micron memory in a card that is used to running Samsung and is causing problems and they have no fix for it. It is proven fact that the Samsung memory does overclock way better. Let me say there is way better Micron memory out there then what they are using in this card. The consumer is the answer to all of these problems. If we are having that many people complaining about their cards crashing and not running good. Then there is a problem. So when you start looking at the facts we see that the memory is the problem guaranteed. Just like this, If a flew out break goes viral and tons of people are getting sick with same type of symptoms they come up with the problem. Same with the video cards, I been building computers for 19 yrs. I had cards from the 3DFX days and windows 3.1. I can tell you I never had a bad video card like this Nvidia GTX 1070. I been buying the top cards on the AMD side. Maybe Nvidia likes to screw people. This is the first Nvidia card for a long time. Had it 6 days and its crashed everyday. That should tell you something. Mine happens to be a Micron card hmmmm. I had a RX480 Nitro didn't have a single problem. Thought I would go faster with GTX 1070 with tons of errors. So people say why do we care which memory these cards have. You can't see the problem then I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. We do care if there is a problem with the memory and its separates the good from the bad.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/27 10:56:20
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"It is proven fact that the Samsung memory does overclock way better." Uh. No it's not.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/28 04:57:37
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You find some positive EVGA GTX FTW 1070 micron cards that are overclocked higher than Samsung and post them here. Find any good micron reviews on this card and post them. GOOD LUCK
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/28 23:02:01
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alhazen You find some positive EVGA GTX FTW 1070 micron cards that are overclocked higher than Samsung and post them here. Find any good micron reviews on this card and post them. GOOD LUCK
Overclocking is only within your world, and your world only. It's luxury, not a necessity, and company(s) never said anything about you being able to have that luxury. Micron memory and Samsung memory both run the same speeds and provide the same performance, end of story. In other words, overclocking is your problem.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/29 05:29:28
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I wasn't overclocking at all. I was was having crappy performance and crashing all the time. Right out of the box with Micron memory. I had the EVGA 1070 SC with samsung in the same system a month and half ago. It ran great never crashed ran higher scores than my 1070FTW. All freaken stock buddy. No overclock. I took it back for the FTW ,because everyone said wait for the FTW, Now I lost out on a great card I had before with Samsung. ALL stock again right out of the box. Now do you understand what i'm saying. We will see in a few day when I get my exchanged FTW.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/29 19:04:21
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See here is the problem. New product comes out its the EVGA FTW 1070 it gets reviewed and has great review, It overclocks great and its a solid performer. OK Now here is the problem look at this. Look at GPUZ in this review. http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/95446-evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ftw-gaming-acx-30/?page=2Do you see this its Samsung for memory. Ok, so people read the review is very happy with it and then decides to buy it. Poor performance and crashing all the time. Now you find out they put different memory in the damn card. TRICKERY We should get a petition going on this. And get refunded or new cards sent out with correct memory in the card as it came out of the factory. I had the same thing happen years ago with a gaming monitor top monitor of the year. Was reviewed by PC gamer magizine. It was a Samsung 21" lcd monitor with the best blacks you can get and great refresh rate and so on........ Guess what happen I went and bought one. Recieved it and the blacks looked like grey and it wasn't they great. Well I decided to keep it after all. So guess what happened. It was posted all over the internet that Samsung took out the orig Samsung LCD screen made by them and put in some jap opti lcd screen in place of the good screen that had the great reviews. Trickery again. Its not right to do that to people out there that spend big money on a video card. I'm pissed off about this crap. The whole reason they did this for is when you over clock the Evga FTW 1070 its almost as fast as the EVGA GTX 1080 look and you will see this. Look real close and you will understand what im talking about. http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/95446-evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ftw-gaming-acx-30/?page=13 The FTW 1070 OC was only 192 points from the GTX 1080 450.99 compared to 649.99 people would by the gtx FTW 1070. We can't have this so Nvidia said lets put slower memory in to slow it down and it will not contend with the 1080 no more. Now we are having all these issues. Thats like advertising a 700hp mustang and doing a review then putting a 500hp in place of it after we get people all excited about it and wanting to buy it. So we will rip the consumers off. So people buy it and say damn I just got passed up by a 100hp Pinto with rust all over it.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/29 20:43:35
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I understand what you're saying, but all I'm seeing in that statement is "overclock", Nvidia doesn't really care if you're able to overclock or not. The FTW is also overclocked the best EVGA was able to. If you're able to get anymore, good for you honestly. If you're trying to go over 2100, just forget about it, it wouldn't be that much boost anyway. The 1070 is very limited beyond the 1080 anyway, even if you were to overclock it to have the 1080's speed. One, the bandwidth is reduced by 1/3 that of the 1080. It's also regular GDDR5 memory.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/29 21:56:46
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My GTX 1080 has Micron memory and I love all 8GB of it.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 02:51:44
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alhazen I wasn't overclocking at all. I was was having crappy performance and crashing all the time. Right out of the box with Micron memory. I had the EVGA 1070 SC with samsung in the same system a month and half ago. It ran great never crashed ran higher scores than my 1070FTW. All freaken stock buddy. No overclock. I took it back for the FTW ,because everyone said wait for the FTW, Now I lost out on a great card I had before with Samsung. ALL stock again right out of the box. Now do you understand what i'm saying. We will see in a few day when I get my exchanged FTW.
Sounds like you received a bad gpu. Both my pascal titan x's use micron memory and they both run just fine.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 04:25:29
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Pretty sure there a bios update comming out to fix issues and make more overclock stable.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 05:33:40
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Take overclock out of the picture. I am not worrying about over clock. I'm looking for stability and good frames. If I get my new card Monday and stick it in and it runs great and stable then I'm done talking about it. Like I said I had a 1070 SC Samsung already in my system and it ran great. No crashes at all. OK So I know that Samsung and the EVGA is a solid performer. I received my 1070 FTW with micron and it ran like crap, crashed everyday for 6 days till it went back. So if I get my new one and it does the same thing i'm saying its the memory. They should of never changed it. I'm not worried about overclock. I'm not worried about overclock.I'm not worried about overclock So when I put the picture of this here its not about the overclock its about changing the damn part on us. Right on there front page. http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/95446-evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ftw-gaming-acx-30/?page=2 What im saying is that Samsung is more stable in this card then Micron because they used a lower line of memory,lower line of memory,lower line of memory. See what im saying. I'm not worried about overclock. we are talking about Stability.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 05:43:17
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If it was inherently unstable at stock clocks, they would have never used it. You simply got a bad card.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 05:45:38
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VooDooPC My GTX 1080 has Micron memory and I love all 8GB of it.
The 1080 has GDDR5X. The problem is in the power delivery to the regular GDDR5 like that on the 1070. They apparently have a BIOS incoming for board partners that allows a different power delivery. If he isn't stable at stock clocks, he would appear to have a problem, though, and may need to RMA.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 10:13:50
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libneon Looks like a new BIOS is coming that may help Micron cards. https://forums.geforce.co.../post/4986835/#4986835
That's great. The OP wasn't having a problem with overclocking. alhazen I wasn't overclocking at all. I was was having crappy performance and crashing all the time. Right out of the box with Micron memory.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 10:19:53
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Sajin That's great. The OP wasn't having a problem with overclocking.
Right. That is the point I was trying make in the post a few back as well.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 20:00:24
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remember What I was saying that Nvidia did this on purpose. I was right someone talked to Nvidia and they said tthey downgraded because the samsung memory was to close of performance to the gtx 1080 so they put (Deleted for Foul Language) memory in to slow the gtx ftw 1070 down and make it slower. Now there getting scared and are going to release a gddrx in the GTX 1070 FTW cards. and now there comming out for a bios fix to try fix the micron crap. Petion time. We all should get Samsung memory or the new memory thats comming out. Should be a recall. I thought Nvidia did this on purpose and micron Ram is of poor quality (crap) anyway? GamerSX said:Okay, i just finished discussing this with one Nvidia Partner (will not mention their name for obvious reasons), reading between the lines, the GTX 1070 has been downgraded to Micron memory on purpose to lower its performance compared to the GTX 1080, to widen the gab between both cards and make the GTX 1080 sell more.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 21:00:47
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Does it show anywere on nvidia website that all 1070 FTW or any 1070 only comes with Samsung memory? If not they can put what ever manufacturer brand memory as long as it is the same speed and GB.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 22:54:43
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alhazen remember What I was saying that Nvidia did this on purpose. I was right someone talked to Nvidia and they said tthey downgraded because the samsung memory was to close of performance to the gtx 1080 so they put **** memory in to slow the gtx ftw 1070 down and make it slower. Now there getting scared and are going to release a gddrx in the GTX 1070 FTW cards. and now there comming out for a bios fix to try fix the micron crap. Petion time. We all should get Samsung memory or the new memory thats comming out. Should be a recall. I thought Nvidia did this on purpose and micron Ram is of poor quality (crap) anyway?
GamerSX said:Okay, i just finished discussing this with one Nvidia Partner (will not mention their name for obvious reasons), reading between the lines, the GTX 1070 has been downgraded to Micron memory on purpose to lower its performance compared to the GTX 1080, to widen the gab between both cards and make the GTX 1080 sell more.
That's quite a theory to think that Nvidia would add GDDR5X onto the 1070, or to think that Nvidia is getting scared. What do they have to be worried about? They won't add GDDR5X onto the 1070 because it will be inferior to the 1080, and the 250gb limitation on the 1070 won't be enough to make the 1070 less than the 1080. They might fix the Micron issue as you're saying, but I doubt to the most of my ability they will add GDDR5X to it.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/09/30 23:46:42
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I just upgraded from a 1070 FTW DT that had Samsung memory in it to a 1080 FTW that has Micron memory in it. I have a fairly decent OC on the 1080 getting around 2100Mhz on the GPU clock, which is fairly close to what I was getting on the 1070 DT, but I am getting about 10 extra FPS. On the 1080 FTW it has that hotspot on the LED which is driving me crazy. Edit: Both cards came from Amazon.
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Re: whats the chance of getting a Samsung memory card then a micron if you buy from Newegg
2016/10/01 00:30:22
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alhazen remember What I was saying that Nvidia did this on purpose. I was right someone talked to Nvidia and they said tthey downgraded because the samsung memory was to close of performance to the gtx 1080 so they put (Deleted for Foul Language) memory in to slow the gtx ftw 1070 down and make it slower. Now there getting scared and are going to release a gddrx in the GTX 1070 FTW cards. and now there comming out for a bios fix to try fix the micron crap. Petion time. We all should get Samsung memory or the new memory thats comming out. Should be a recall. I thought Nvidia did this on purpose and micron Ram is of poor quality (crap) anyway?
GamerSX said:Okay, i just finished discussing this with one Nvidia Partner (will not mention their name for obvious reasons), reading between the lines, the GTX 1070 has been downgraded to Micron memory on purpose to lower its performance compared to the GTX 1080, to widen the gab between both cards and make the GTX 1080 sell more.
That poster was spouting nonsense. Nvidia didn't say that. He was called out on it too. They have identified a bug in the BIOS that affected the Micron memory when overclocked. It been posted that it will be posted here by EVGA when the BIOS fix comes out.
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I have micron memory on both my titan xp and the vram can do 500+ on air for both cards.
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Viper453 I have micron memory on both my titan xp and the vram can do 500+ on air for both cards.
It's a BIOS bug on the GTX 1070
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alhazen I thought Nvidia did this on purpose and micron Ram is of poor quality (crap) anyway?
GamerSX said:Okay, i just finished discussing this with one Nvidia Partner (will not mention their name for obvious reasons), reading between the lines, the GTX 1070 has been downgraded to Micron memory on purpose to lower its performance compared to the GTX 1080, to widen the gab between both cards and make the GTX 1080 sell more. I think we have a class action lawsuit. This is 100% irrefutable internet evidence.
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alhazen I thought Nvidia did this on purpose and micron Ram is of poor quality (crap) anyway?
GamerSX said:Okay, i just finished discussing this with one Nvidia Partner (will not mention their name for obvious reasons), reading between the lines, the GTX 1070 has been downgraded to Micron memory on purpose to lower its performance compared to the GTX 1080, to widen the gab between both cards and make the GTX 1080 sell more. I think we have a class action lawsuit. This is 100% irrefutable internet evidence.
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