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2011/02/14 12:14:16 (permalink)
Hi folks,
 
i'm just ready with assembling my new rig on a SR-2.
because the system itself is standing in onother room near the working place, i was looking for any kind of remote wakeup utility.
my old asrock already supported wake on PS2 or wake on USB.
I found the setting for wake on USB in the bios, but seems it will only work on S1 or S3. S3 would be fine, but maybe becaus of 24G Ram or the SSD for the system it isn't sable waking wether from S1 nor S3.
So now i'm switching the machine off in software (S5) and then just swithing the main power on a long power cord. with the setting of 'Power ON on AC-Power lost' it will every now and then wake if it's hardware switched off for more than 20 seconds.
 
I think this is not satisfying. ;-) anyone knows, why it isn't waking on USB or PS2 command from S5? Or does anyone has a clue why it isn't rebooting from S3 correctly?
 
thanks, guys.
greetings from germany.
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    RetiredProfessor
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    Re:wake on USB or PS2 not functioning 2011/02/14 15:18:33 (permalink)
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    . . . anyone knows, why it isn't waking on USB . . .? Or does anyone has a clue why it isn't rebooting from S3 correctly?

    The SR-2 can reliably sleep and awaken. I use this function multiple times per day.  The S3 function works regardless whether using IDE/AHCI, SATA II/III system drive, or stock/over-clocked speeds. How reliable is it? I can only tell you my experience that I only had (perhaps, recall) 3 failures from daily usage between the period beginning in October to today. So I regard this as very reliable.

    If you need to set up the sleep function quickly, I recommend that you enable HIBERNATE from the operating system. Hibernation works reliably with little effort. I used hiberation for several weeks when I first set up my system. But the most satisfying experience is obtained using S3. The SR-2 goes to sleep and wakes up quickly. Also, the energy consumption while sleeping is only about 6 Watts, depending on the hardware included.

    S3 sleep does take a little work to set up. You need to change settings in the BIOS setup menu, in the POWER OPTIONS in the CONTROL PANEL of the operating system, and sometimes also in the DEVICE MANAGER of the operating system. Then after you get it working, you got to trouble shoot problems, e.g., typically, the computer awakes spontaneously or one of the hard drives never awakes. But the problems are correctable and the work you put in correcting such problems is well worth the effort. (If you are using Windows, the OS provides many useful diagnostic routines.) The following lists the main settings you need to make.

    BIOS settings: Set SUSPEND MODE to S3 (STR) and enable the USB Device wakeup from S3/S4.

    POWER OPTIONS: The three main options are the HARD DRIVE (select NEVER turn off), the USB (select ENABLE selective suspend setting), and PCI-E (select turn OFF link state power management).

    DEVICE MANAGER: Examine three device types in the operating system device manager: the keyboard, the mouse, and PCI-E. Each will have a POWER MANAGEMENT TAB. Select the tab and then select "allow this device to wake computer".

    Additional information:
    1- When I used an old graphics card, the S3 function didn't work (although HIBERNATE worked fine). Then when I installed a new one, S3 function worked immediately. I am guessing that the graphics card could affect the S3 function.

    2- Hard drives (particularly the "green" ones) sometimes will not awaken from S3 sleep. If you encounter this problem and you are using Windows 7, Microsoft has a fix for this. I provided the reference for the fix in another post several weeks ago.

    3- Application software can sometimes create problems for S3. For example, on the SR-2 board, the software might not make provisions for waking up a SATA III drive. The problem arises from the fact that the SATA III drives are currently controlled by a different device than the SATA II drives. Software designed several years ago might not detect a motherboard has multiple SATA controllers. Also note that turning off the software is not sufficient. The software needs to be stopped. For example, if you ran and exited from a popular software called ArgusMonitor. Enter the command prompt and type "sc query ArgusMonitor". Then look at the STATE. The STATE must = 1 or STOPPED in order than it doesn't affect sleep.
     
    I probably forgot something. But I'm sure someone will provide additional information. Good luck and have fun -- RP
    post edited by RetiredProfessor - 2011/02/14 15:27:08

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    Re:wake on USB or PS2 not functioning 2011/02/15 10:48:45 (permalink)
    Ok. Thanks RP.
    I've tried what you suggested but it isn't working. Sometimes it awakens sontanously and only partly (only the waterpump and psu seems running). Or it awakes like from S5 but windows is starting like after a crash with safe mode option.

    I have the system on the sata III controller on a ssd. Maybe thats the problem. the other sata III port is for the ssd for swap-files. Both are force 120G ones.
    Other harddrives are all green ones. 5xsamsung 500GB in RAID0 and 2x 2TB simply in AHCI (one on the eSATA port if you counted and were wondering where I plugged it in.)

    Maybe someone has additional suggestions.

    Best regards.
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    post edited by CUTPUNKER - 2011/02/15 11:36:42

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    Re:wake on USB or PS2 not functioning 2011/02/16 10:44:08 (permalink)
    Hello , my experience with Sr-2 awakening ability is not very good.After 187 bclck it won't reliably wake up from S3 even if it is IBT rock stable.Never had this problem with other mobos .After this clock threshold the motherboardwon't simply go in s3.It will turn off only screen and hard disk but the processors and fans will still remain on ,until what frequency does your s3 sleep mode work? 
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    Re:wake on USB or PS2 not functioning 2011/02/17 06:07:57 (permalink)
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    . . . Sometimes it awakens sontanously and only partly (only the waterpump and psu seems running). Or it awakes like from S5 but windows is starting like after a crash with safe mode option.

    Here are some diagnostics you might try to rule-out some of the simple causes of S3 problems.

    Diagnostic #1: Check whether the power has been configured correctly when the computer is in a suspended state. When the SR-2 is in the S3 state, the standby LED should glow blue, indicating that the +5 standby volt is present. The two DIMM LEDs should glow yellow, indicating that both banks of memory are active, even when the power is off (the green LED is off). The LEDs are illustrated in the photo below.


    Diagnostic #2: Check whether HIBERNATION has been enabled. Look in the system drive partition for HIBERFIL.sys. (To see the system file, you must go into the CONTROL PANEL | FOLDER OPTIONS | VIEW | uncheck "Hide protected operating system files".) If this file is present, hibernation was enabled and S3 was disabled. See Diagnostic # 3 as to how to correct this.

    Diagnostic #3: Check whether the power configuration is correctly set in Windows OS. This can be verified in the command mode. (You might have to run as administrator).  Use the command POWERCFG. The command syntax is described in http://technet.microsoft....748940%28WS.10%29.aspx . The command usage is described in http://www.vistax64.com/t...eep-mode-problems.html

    Example 1: To examine which S-state, if any, was enabled, enter powercfg -a
    Example 2: To investigate the devices that could inadvertantly wake the computer, enter powercfg -devicequery wake_from_any
    Example 3: To turn off hibernation, enter powercfg -h off. To turn on hibernation, enter powercfg -h on.

    Diagnostic #4: Check whether the graphics card is the source of the problem. The only way I know how to do this is to switch the card (ideally to one in which S3 function has been demonstrate to work). My experience with the SR-2 is limited to two graphics cards. S3 works on a nVidia GeForce GTX 460 card but didn't work with nVidia GeForce 7200 GS (an old card).The symptoms I experienced were similar to those you described.
     
    If all of the above checks out correctly, then turn off the computer. Remove the power cord so that all LEDs are off. In particular, you want to be sure that the +5 standby voltage is off so that any persistent error flag is reset or something like that. Leave the computer off for 2 minutes. Then try initiate S3 and wake from Windows.
     
    post edited by RetiredProfessor - 2011/02/17 06:13:33

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    Re:wake on USB or PS2 not functioning 2011/02/17 08:04:01 (permalink)
    Nice post Professor.  Thanks for your help.



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    Re:wake on USB or PS2 not functioning 2011/02/17 12:38:29 (permalink)
    Hi Professor. Perfectly explained. Thanks alot so far! I'll try the next days and hope that it isn't the graphics card because i havn't any backup here now... ;-)
    I'll reply about the results again.

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    Re:wake on USB or PS2 not functioning 2011/02/23 19:37:48 (permalink)
    Thanks Professor for all your help on this "Sleep Issue"
     
    I have SR2 - Bios 50 installed and are still having sleep issues. 
    I own the EVGA PS and EVGA 3 480 SLI - What is interesting on another rig with Classified Quad SLI with same Graphics, memory, SSD drives and PS it sleeps like a baby.  The Xeon and motherboards are the only different components.
     
    I have tried a lot of things to make this work. 
     
    Here are my ideas as to why this is not working... Either its the sataIII controller and I can't find a working bios update for it, the ones from EVGA and other sites fail upon lunching the image and says wrong disk.  Or its the processor micro-code that is messed up and only some processors are working and other are not.  The motherboard is not powering down, however, the monitors and hd's are.
    Hibernate work great - So I do have a work around and the board does boot up real fast with raided sataIII boot drives. 
    However,
    The 80/20 rule is real.  You never get everything you think you are buying in electronics.
     
    I would like to solve this issue...
     
    IDEAS to ask everyone having this issue of it going to sleep with Power/Fans on everything else in sleep mode.
    a) How many graphic cards - I have three
    b) SR2 PS from EVGA
    c) Cosair Dominator 2K memory - Red Top
    d) 8 SSD drives - Two in the SIII and six in the SII slots
     
    Ideas needed
     
    Warmly,
     
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