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The drop-in binary for the SMP client on the FAH client download page links to the new 6.30 client. This SMP client has a major advantage in setup simplicity compared to 6.29. 6.30 does not need MPI, which means you don't need to have the MPI service running (smpd.exe) and you don't have to install it in the first place with install.bat. Now setting up the SMP client is just as easy as the GPU and normal CPU clients! Link to download: http://www.stanford.edu/~kasson/folding/windows/Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 1:22 AM
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Thanks!
I'll have to download it for my new folding rig that I'm building.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 1:31 AM
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Does this also mean that you would no longer need a windows password too?
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 1:50 AM
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Does this also mean that you would no longer need a windows password too?
same question here, i didn't like this method since I had to use a windows password, thats why I stuck to usng Notfreds Diskless Client in Vmware Player
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 3:26 AM
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How' you find out about this new drop in executable? I don't a post mentioning this on the forum and I don't see it on the download page 
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 3:39 AM
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The Stanford download page has the new 6.30 client download link for the drop-in update. The text above it just hasn't been updated yet and it still shows 6.29.
As for the Windows password, you don't need one since you don't need to have MPI.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 3:48 AM
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The Stanford download page has the new 6.30 client download link for the drop-in update. The text above it just hasn't been updated yet and it still shows 6.29.
As for the Windows password, you don't need one since you don't need to have MPI.
That's what I was thinking. Thanks for confirming.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 5:29 AM
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Is it like the systray GPU client now or still like a console one? I might just uninstall my client and reinstall it just to see what it's like.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 5:44 AM
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It´s still the same console. Just replace your existing exe withn that one
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 5:45 AM
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I hope some day they make a sys tray SMP client, they really need to get this stuff more simple.
What I was saying though is I might uninstall it to see how "easy" it might have gotten. I just want to see what it's like to go through.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 5:55 AM
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 6:16 AM
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Do they have a 64 bit version, or does it really matter?
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 6:18 AM
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it doesn´matter.
The mpi client is for the 64 bit version. The deino only works in 32 bit
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 7:22 AM
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I'll be jumping on that bandwagon as soon as it comes out, even if it's not the most reliable. Hopefully it has something like HFM integrated. Instead of being like the FAH tracker, a better example would be that binc thing or whatever we were doing with our fermi's before we could fold on them. But it is similar, I think he was trying to copy that kinda.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 4:35 PM
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So, what's the recommended method of removing the MPIH stuff if it is no longer needed? I know it won't amount for MUCH but the less overhead being used, the better.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 4:39 PM
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just drop in the new exe between wus, remove your windows password and fire it back up
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 5:00 PM
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Is there nothing else needed to shut down/remove the MPICH itself?
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 5:10 PM
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Idk, I just did it like I described above. On some of my rigs I did a reboot, but that´s it
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Friday, July 23, 2010 5:27 PM
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Yah, I shutdown, dropped in and restarted, and it took right off, but I want to remove the MPICH stuff if I don't need it. Guess it's time to looking. d <<Edit>>So, as an experiment, I shutdown the client, turned off the MPICH2 service and started the client. It went into the work just fine, but threw and error about not being able to speak to the MPICH service. Closed the client, started the service and went back to work. Not gonna change what's not broken, I guess, until I do some more work. d <<close edit>>
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:41 AM
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So, what's the recommended method of removing the MPIH stuff if it is no longer needed? I know it won't amount for MUCH but the less overhead being used, the better.
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Once your work unit is finished: - In Windows, go to administrator tools -> services
- Look for the MPICH service (I forget the exact name of it) and stop it.
- IMPORTANT: Open an elevated command prompt (Start menu, type 'cmd', when command prompt appears right-click on it in the start menu and select run as administrator)
- change to the directory where your smp client is installed
- run the following command: smpd-uninstall
You should be good to go, you can verify by closing and re-opening the services screen and see that it's not listed anymore.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:42 AM
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Oh, and by the way, after getting rid of the MPICH service and running the new client, Windows firewall will ask for your permission to let MPI through. Don't worry, that doesn't mean that it reinstalled the service.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:59 AM
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Why don't you guys just totally uninstall everything and reinstall the new client? Wouldn't that be easier?
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:17 AM
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Does this also mean that you would no longer need a windows password too?
Does that mean that you prefer not to have a password for your Windows login? Seriously that would be just like running through a corn field backwards and naked......
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:50 AM
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Why don't you guys just totally uninstall everything and reinstall the new client? Wouldn't that be easier?
Really, the only thing to uninstall is the MPICH software. Technically, with the console version, just dropping in a new .exe all it takes to install the new version. If I were to perform a 'total uninstall' that would get rid of MPICH, I'd be reformatting and building a new windows box. Not how I wanted to spend my weekend, I can assure you. *laughs* This is a VERY involved boxen as it also drives my media to our HDTV. Thanks for the info, everyone! I'll report on how things went as soon as my current WU ends. d
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:44 PM
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What's the hazard of leaving MPICH on your computer? Is it a security risk?
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:52 PM
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What's the hazard of leaving MPICH on your computer? Is it a security risk?
It's an overhead thing for me, as I said above. If I don't have to have it hitting my CPU, I don't want it running. I have enough little nickle and dime processes going on based on what I'm doing to the box as a media server, I don't want anything that I don't NEED running taking anything extra. I really doubt there's a security issue that anyone's actively exploiting, but in the larger scale, if it's not needed, why take that chance, too, I suppose. If you want to look at it from that POV, a program can't be exploited if it's not there to be exploited. d <<Edit>> So, 2 hours and 28% into the next WU without the MPICH service installed, and everything looks fantastic! Love it!! <<End Edit>>
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:08 PM
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rklapp
What's the hazard of leaving MPICH on your computer? Is it a security risk?
It's an overhead thing for me, as I said above. If I don't have to have it hitting my CPU, I don't want it running. I have enough little nickle and dime processes going on based on what I'm doing to the box as a media server, I don't want anything that I don't NEED running taking anything extra.
I really doubt there's a security issue that anyone's actively exploiting, but in the larger scale, if it's not needed, why take that chance, too, I suppose. If you want to look at it from that POV, a program can't be exploited if it's not there to be exploited.
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<<Edit>>
So, 2 hours and 28% into the next WU without the MPICH service installed, and everything looks fantastic! Love it!!
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Are you getting slightly better TPF?
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:00 AM
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Nothing to massively write home about but it looks like a second or so better on the 6066 WU. I'll do some digging into the HFM Benchmark history.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:44 PM
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Cool. I guess it's worth changing.
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Re:New 6.30 SMP client doesn't need MPI (no need for install.bat!)
Monday, July 26, 2010 4:32 AM
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Is this new SMP for -bigadv projects as well?
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