Barbarossa
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as already posted by Linuxrouter in another thread KassonWe've turned off bigadv on linux for the time being. We're switching bigadv over to A3, but as you may have noticed there's a bug in the linux A3 core that affects bigadv stability. We've been working on the bug, but it's still in hiding at this time. If you're running VM's under windows, I'd suggest trying the native windows client, which is still enabled for bigadv. OS/X is also still enabled. http://foldingforum.org/v...p;t=14792&start=15 and over at the [H], somebody already got a windows bigadv http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1529364 Now who´s willing to try it out
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 09:45:17
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I'll give it a shot on my 980X when I get home tonight and see how it goes.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 09:58:56
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 11:38:32
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Can someone post how to set up this new client, been too busy to mess around with it.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 11:41:56
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It´s the regular win smp client with the -bigadv instead of -advmethods flag http://forums.evga.comarchive/tm.asp?m=503846 If you´re in vista/win7 you need to disable uac and it doesn´t like to be installed in the programms folder (C:FAH is fine though)
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 11:48:39
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ah, that´s why you popped up on my overtake list
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 12:40:21
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Interesting. I wish the 2684's were done (or fixed) though. I'll switch over and see what my 930 gets on it. If the PPD and stability is better than it was on linuxrouters image program, I'll run it.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 12:59:39
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I just picked up a Windows bigadv 2684. I really hope that these see more stability in Windows than they did in Linux.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 13:11:44
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Anybody have a estamated PPD for a i7 @4ghz? I'm getting about 25k ppd on the windows A3 in HFM.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 13:20:55
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Well this is interesting indeed. I have a i7 920 that will soon be at 4.0ghz on water, along with (2) 480s on water. I usually run -smp 6 on the 920 to keep the480s happy and the system free for internet use. My question is can I run bigadv now natively in Win7 if I run -smp 6 or -smp 7? Also, I usually game for about 2-3 hours a day so could I still complete the bigadv work units in time? Thanks guys, I sure hope I can muster up bigadv to work in my system. I really don't want to spend the extra cash to build a dedicated bigadv i7 920 box.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 14:40:10
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danger30q My question is can I run bigadv now natively in Win7 if I run -smp 6 or -smp 7? Also, I usually game for about 2-3 hours a day so could I still complete the bigadv work units in time? In theory yes. The reason people were able to run -smp 7 in Linux VM was because the VM was configured with 8-cores. The folding client needs to be able to see at least 8 cores before it will attempt to download bigadv work. Project 2684 takes considerably longer to complete than p2681-2683 via Core A2. With a 920 @ 4.0 GHz, I think you will be fine if you were to run -smp 8. With a 920 @ 4.0 GHz, my completion time for 2684 was a little over 3-days and the preferred deadline is 4-days. 7-core folding may or may not be fast enough. You might be cutting it close to the 4-day deadline.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 15:39:58
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I've just downloaded the windows sytem tray client but it's only using 13%cpu (1 thread I suppose) how do I get it to use 7 threads and run bigadvs?
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 16:34:05
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First -bigadv wu started. This is on a 980X @ 3.63 running on all cores 100% and running 1 GPU client at the same time.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 16:37:43
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folder I've just downloaded the windows sytem tray client but it's only using 13%cpu (1 thread I suppose) how do I get it to use 7 threads and run bigadvs? That sounds like the GPU client you have running. You want to start a new thread and we can see if we can get your issue(s) worked out there. We don't want to go off topic in here.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 17:47:26
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I was wondering why I wasn't getting any -bigadv work units. I guess I'll try the Windows client tomorrow. Any idea how much memory the Windows client uses while doing -bigadv work?
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 17:51:26
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Mine is using 3166MB for the clients listed above. Dedicated folding rig.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 17:55:42
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Found this info at the [H]: "The system is only using 1.77GB of memory with Win 7 Ult 64bit"
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 18:00:03
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 18:08:33
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slugbug Found this info at the [H]: "The system is only using 1.77GB of memory with Win 7 Ult 64bit" Any more info along with that? Other clients or gadgets running? I have Precision and a CPU Usage gadget running as well as AVG. AVG could be adding a bit to it. The rig I'm on right now is an i5-750 with a GPU client running, and Precision, HFM, IE8, AVG, F@H gadget, CPU Usage gadget, Clock gadget, and Calendar gadget. Currently using 1745MB.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 18:49:54
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interesting, i am going to have to try this out.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 19:37:47
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Amazingly low memory footprint on these 2684s. Even on my dual hex system running -smp 24, Folding is only using about 1.4GB of memory.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 22:15:35
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Man am I confused.. I have always ran -smp 7 -bigadv... Is this now wrong or correct?
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/29 22:28:50
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Neither, but you´ll have to ditch your vms and run the native win smp client if you want to continue folding the bigadv. If you still can run them with -smp 7 there idk
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv now Win SMP
2010/06/29 23:21:26
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Barbarossa Now who´s willing to try it out I just switched over to the 2684's. Way too soon for a ppd estimate. I also have to take system down in the morning for the PSU upgrade. I just hope this runs better than on vmware. For myself, was never stable. It looks like it's using 1.6mb of memory.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/30 04:24:43
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Barbarossa Neither, but you´ll have to ditch your vms and run the native win smp client if you want to continue folding the bigadv. If you still can run them with -smp 7 there idk The only problem I have heard of was using the -smp 11, for some reason it didn't like that number for someone. It should work just the same as always for the flags.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv now Win SMP
2010/06/30 04:48:36
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Thanks for the heads up Barbarossa. Mabe this will help me stay ahead of jflankford up there ^.  How long have we been able to run -bigadv on win? Is that recent? FInished a vm unit overnite & reconfigured this morning.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv now Win SMP
2010/06/30 05:06:38
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there was no offical announcement, only the "btw its available for windows" in Kassons post yesterday
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/30 05:12:05
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I'm seeing PPD down quite a bit from native Linux -bigadv. Currently on a 2684 with my SR-2 dual hex machine and getting TPF of 17:03 for a PPD of 87.5k. So somewhere around a 20-30% PPD drop over A2 -bigadv. Afterburner Man am I confused.. I have always ran -smp 7 -bigadv... Is this now wrong or correct? If you're also GPU folding, then yes, I would still run -smp 7. Otherwise, I'd experiment with 7 and 8 and see what works better.
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Re:No more Linux Bigadv
2010/06/30 08:49:53
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Just installed the Windows client and it's doing a p2684 -bigadv WU. Will report later on the ppd.
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