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2009/11/26 15:44:06 (permalink)
I'm using it right now.  I never thought Firefox would be on the ball like this.  It appears that they've been working on this for awhile and say that they will have a final build of a Firefox GPU Accelerated browser out before IE9!


ENJOY!

IE9 verses Firefox 3.7a1pre
http://www.betanews.com/a...D-rendering/1259084302

Firefox Developer Blog
http://www.basschouten.co...2d-performance-analysi

Who will be first?
http://techie-buzz.com/fi...-gpu-acceleration.html



Download the latest "non Direct2D" versions here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pu.../nightly/latest-trunk/ 



EDIT:
Download the 3.7a1pre D2D version here:
http://www.bassified.nl/f...re.en-US.win32.d2d.zip



post edited by luv2increase - 2009/11/26 16:14:10

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/26 16:06:15 (permalink)
    Cool. Downloading it now.

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/26 16:10:28 (permalink)
    I think the link I provided above is not for the Direct2D version.

    This is a very interesting link:
    http://www.basschouten.co...re-rendering-a-browser



    Here is the link for the Direct2D version:
    http://www.bassified.nl/f...re.en-US.win32.d2d.zip


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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/26 16:33:19 (permalink)
    Neither link has a installer for it
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/26 16:33:36 (permalink)
    Cool, trying it out now. Does text seem a little more faded to anyone?

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/26 16:36:44 (permalink)
    kscott190

    Neither link has a installer for it





    You don't need an installer for the D2D version.  Just use 7-zip or an equivalent and unzip the contents and click on the "firefox.exe" file.  Put a shortcut to your desktop.


    EDIT:
    I am now using the non D2D 3.7a1pre version.  The Direct2D version leaves horizontal black lines across the page that are a result from scrolling web pages.  I cannot live with that.  It does it on two vastly different computers so it is definitely a problem with the code.

    The regular version sure is fast though.
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/26 19:12:44 (permalink)
    Thanks for the link, nice find. It's working great for me so far. I'm not getting any black lines as you have mentioned. I am seeing a difference in scrolling though. It feels like a machine that's had it's old bearings replaced or something, compared to the current release version of Firefox 3.5.5
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/26 22:43:16 (permalink)
    Nice find but is it just me or I cannot see anything different.
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 01:03:49 (permalink)
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 04:06:33 (permalink)
     Thanks luv2increase, It does seem a little quicker on heavy pages. I don't have the black lines like you mentioned but the text is really faded like deicida said. All my extensions and themes work with a little help form the Nightly Tester Tool. The just updated to work with the 3.7's...

     

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 04:08:47 (permalink)
    Thanks!




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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 06:35:13 (permalink)
    To test this browser I ran Futuremarks Peacekeeper Browser Benchmark. The latest Firefox beta (3.6 Beta 4) outperforms it in most areas except for Complex Graphics which isn't included in the overall score. Anyone else run some tests?







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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 07:56:09 (permalink)
    my points for firefox 3.5.5



       

     
     
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 09:30:08 (permalink)
    deicida

    To test this browser I ran Futuremarks Peacekeeper Browser Benchmark. The latest Firefox beta (3.6 Beta 4) outperforms it in most areas except for Complex Graphics which isn't included in the overall score. Anyone else run some tests?








    I didn't even realize there was a beta "4" version of 3.6!  I am getting a little over 3200 in the Peacekeeper benchmark with 3.7a1pre.  I think I will install the 3.6 beta4 now :)

    I will tell you something really really weird right now.  It is about Google Chrome. It doesn't matter if it is the beta or regular version.  I figured out a way to set my default zoom to 160% like I like it right.  Well, when I run Peacekeeper with the zoom enabled, I get around 2800 points with Chrome!!!!!  When the zoom is not enabled, I get well over 5000!!!  I tried two different ways to enable the zoom, and the results are always horrible no matter how I enable the zoom with Chrome!


    EDIT: 
    I see that the beta4 version of 3.6 was just released!  It looks a lot more advanced and stable than this 3.7a1pre; that is for sure.

    Here is the link to the beta4 release!  ENJOY!

    http://www.geek.com/artic...x-3-6-beta-4-20091127/


    Here is the link to the beta4 download:
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 12:25:25 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info.

    I installed the 64-bit build of Firefox 3.7a1 and it seems to be running good so far.

    http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Firefox:Download

    Unfortunately the Peacekeeper test is not compatible with it.
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 14:30:16 (permalink)


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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 14:56:22 (permalink)


    Update: Just ran it a second time, and clicked on the orange 'Details' bar.


    Thanks for the post. 

    A link to the test:
    http://service.futuremark...acekeeper/index.action
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 15:37:29 (permalink)
    Odd...

    At first I thought this supported SLI.

    I rebooted, and let my clocks drop down to 2D mode on my GPU.
    Fired up Firefox, and the clocks remained at 2D speed.
    Started the benchmark, and both sides of my 295 went into 3D Performance mode until the balls started:

    Then one side dropped back down to 2D clock speeds.

    Kept the browser open, and ran it a second time, but my second GPU never returned to 3D Performance mode.


    Final conclusion, this does NOT support SLI mode. I wish it would...


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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 20:48:17 (permalink)
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/27 21:09:07 (permalink)
    would it even need sli mode? 

    i mean i doubt its rendering to much to affect performance as they said something like cpus produced frames at 18 fps 

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 01:21:22 (permalink)
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    my points for firefox 3.5.5




    Mine is nearly identical to yours, I got 2539 on 3.5.5


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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 02:39:03 (permalink)
    EDIT :  I figured out what was stopping Peacekeeper from working/loading, it was Adblock Plus or possibly the filters i use with AdBlock Plus but disabling AdBlock Plus allowed the Peacekeeper benchmark to run.

    I cant even get the latest official release of firefox to complete this benchmark, just gets stuck at "loading test..." yet Internet Explorer and Goggle Chrome both start it within seconds, not sure why i dont use goggle since it scored over 5800 points, seems Mozilla, even a GPU accelerated version cant get those scores.

    If anyone can shed any light on why Firefox 3.5.5, 3.6 Beta 4 and the 3.7 pre beta? wont run the test please let me know, i allow it to run Java, the Java app appears, the test looks like its going to start but it just sits at "5 minutes left" loading test...

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 02:54:19 (permalink)
    rofl @ 1337 for IE

    also I'm not sure why you had issues in firefox, mine just worked first time
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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 04:01:27 (permalink)
    So did any of you benchmark the GPU accelerated version to see how it comperes in the detail section. Seems only complex graphics get a boost so far. This is a very early version though and probably more of a proof of concept, I'm sure over time it could make more use of the GPU.

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 04:22:30 (permalink)
    Here is mine on Google Chrome Beta.  

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 04:54:06 (permalink)
    I just tried out Chrome because I thought it's supposed to be faster. I can get a higher benchmark score with Chrome but Firefox 3.6b4 is much faster at loading pages for me, there is a very noticeable difference. I have enabled pipelining in Firefox, but even without that Chrome still lags behind Firefox.

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 04:55:03 (permalink)
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    would it even need sli mode? 

    i mean i doubt its rendering to much to affect performance as they said something like cpus produced frames at 18 fps 


    Not sure... Good question.

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 04:59:12 (permalink)
    deicida

    So did any of you benchmark the GPU accelerated version to see how it comperes in the detail section. Seems only complex graphics get a boost so far. This is a very early version though and probably more of a proof of concept, I'm sure over time it could make more use of the GPU.


    Here is someone numbers for 3.5.5

    Rendering                   2373
    Social Netwroking       2449
    Complex Graphics       5051
    Data                           3622
    DOM Operations         2181
    Text Parsing               2302

    and for the 3.6 Beta 4

    Rendering                   3385  +1012 over 3.5.5
    Social Netwroking       3837  +1388 over 3.5.5
    Complex Graphics       7121  +2070 over 3.5.5
    Data                           8673   +5051 over 3.5.5
    DOM Operations         3454   +1273 over 3.5.5
    Text Parsing               4530    +2228 over 3.5.5

    Data seems to get a pretty big boost and this one one that Google Chrome gets a lower score on even though it has a higher Overall score than the GPU Accelerated/non-GPU Accelerated versions of Firefox.  Not sure how important this is compared to the other parts of the benchmark when it comes to real world surfing of the net but since Chrome is not GPU Accelerated yet this could be the area that really benefits from it.

    If you were talking about comparing Internet Explorer 8 to the GPU Acelerated Internet Explorer 9 i am not sure if you can get access to it yet or how far along in development it is.

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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 04:59:57 (permalink)
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    Odd...

    At first I thought this supported SLI.

    I rebooted, and let my clocks drop down to 2D mode on my GPU.
    Fired up Firefox, and the clocks remained at 2D speed.
    Started the benchmark, and both sides of my 295 went into 3D Performance mode until the balls started:

    Then one side dropped back down to 2D clock speeds.

    Kept the browser open, and ran it a second time, but my second GPU never returned to 3D Performance mode.


    Final conclusion, this does NOT support SLI mode. I wish it would...



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    Re:Firefox 3.7a1pre GPU Accelerated Browser 2009/11/28 05:06:00 (permalink)
    odd...

    Maybe it doesn't need 3D at all?

    (I do have my Nvidia Control Panel set to 'Max Performance mode', not 'Adaptive'.)

    Could be why I jumped to 3D Clock speeds at all?


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