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2010/06/09 22:55:24 (permalink)
OK so I have searched and searched the internet for how to set up a gpu sys tray folding client and smp2 client (aka -advmethods) on my SSD system well there is no guide and most people don't have a clue at any forums i have visited so here it is tested by me and working great.
 
Why do you need this guide? If you got SSD drives the life of them can be reduced with more read and writes as well as performance, which is very common in folding@home. I have even found folders who stopped folding because they have ssd drives. first you need atleast a second drive that is platter or the common hard drive HDD.
 
So lets start with adding a second NO SSD drive to your system.
 
now create a folder on this drive (I used folding drive letter is F:)
 
you will need to download the gpu sys tray client here: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14671
I am useing the new beta drivers for the 400 series card as it allows you to fold with no dummy plugs
 
 
now install it, after it starts and is working, right click on the tray icon and click quit to shut it down.
 
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming, and locate the Folding@home-gpu folder. Right click on the folder, and select copy.
Now Paste the folder into the Roaming directory two times, and name them, leaving the first as folding@home-gpu 
Folding@home-gpu-2 
and
Folding@home-gpu-3
for the second and third clients.

 
Now cut and paste these folders into the folder you made called folding on a different drive (a standard hdd, drive F: for me).
go back and delete the folder in C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\folding@home-gpu

 
make sure to enable show hidden folders to see these.
Go into both of the new folders Folding@home-gpu-2, and Folding@homegpu-3, and delete the following files: unitinfo, queue.dat, FAHlog, client, and the entire Work folder.
 
Piont Explorer to C:\Program files (X86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu, and right click on Folding@home.exe, and select create a shortcut, now cut and paste to your Desktop. Repeat to make a total of 3 shortcuts for 3 cards folding.

 
Name the new shortcut Folding @home-1

Click on the exact same Folding@home.exe file in the same folder, and make a second shortcut.
Name the new shortcut Folding @home-2
 
Click on the exact same Folding@home.exe file in the same folder, and make a third shortcut.
Name the new shortcut Folding @home-3
  start in: is the important factor here use the drive and folder path you created on regular HDD I use drive F:
Right click on the Folding @home-1 icon, and click properties, and set the:
Target: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu\Folding@home.exe" -gpu 0
Start in: F:\folding\Folding@home-gpu\

Right click on the Folding @home-2 icon, and set it's properties to run as Administrator, and set the:
Target: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu\Folding@home.exe" -gpu 1
Start in:F:\folding\Folding@home-gpu-gpu-2

Right click on the Folding @home-3 icon, and set it's properties to run as Administrator, and set the:
Target: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu\Folding@home.exe" -gpu 2
Start in: F:\folding\Folding@home-gpu-3
 
In Nvidia Control Panel set disable SLI, and in 3D settings set cuda all
 

 

 
 When each new instance of GPU Folding starts, there is only a few things we select. When the Folding@Home Control Panel appears, you will be on the User tab. Enter your Folding Name in the User name field, and 111065 in the Team number field.

Next click the Connection tab. Select the box to Allow recept of work assignments and return of results greater than 10MB in size.

Next click the Advanced tab. Select Core Priority. se to Slightly higher Also, check the box next to: 'Do NOT lock cores to specific CPU'.
Ensure you give all 3 instances a unique machine ID number
 
 
 
NOW for SMP2 aka -advmethods
 
go here [link=http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther]http://folding.stanford.e..nglish/DownloadWinOther[/link]
and download 6.29 beta for MPICH
 
in vista and windows 7 turn UAC off. Set your pc up to have a user name and password to login to windows.
get a folding at home passkey from stanford here: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py
 
Install the SMP client. 
install this to the new folding folder on a standard hard drive location F:\folding\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
NOW
look for a file called install.bat. double click and Run that. be sure to enter your windows user name and log in pasword into the client it will not show your password so be careful what you type.
 
Make a shortcut of the folding@home-win32-x86.exe file on your dektop. right click the shortcut click properties. @ the end of the Target path add a space and -smp
IMPORTANT!
in the start in field change it to "F:\folding\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01"
 

 
enter the information into the client such as user name, team number, passkey, file size big, change adv options yes, set -advmethods flag yes. the rest is all default settings. red check marks is what needs changed.
 

 
start folding after you enter the info and make sure your getting core a3 work units. 
To see the bonus points you'll need to use hfm.net to monitor your points it can be downloaded here: [link=http://code.google.com/p/hfm-net/%3C/a%3E%3C/font%3E]http://code.google.com/p/..net/%3C/a%3E%3C/font%3E[/link]
 
If you have any questions or need help setting up smp2 please post here and me or someone else will be glad to help out the best we can.
 
a i7 can typicaly bring in 9-15k ppd useing all 8 cores a core 2 quad can bring in 5-10k ppd all of this will vary based on your OC and the work unit downloaded.
 
Now you don't have to worry about read and writes to your SSD drive and can fold without degrading your expensive drives. DO NOT FORGET cut and paste as much as possible!!! do not copy past then delete as this slows your SSD performance down quickly.
 
One tip for SSD systems is to not delete items cut and paste them to a external HDD and hook it up to a non ssd system and delte the files there. 
 
HAPPY FOLDING WITH YOUR SSD SYSTEM!!!!!!!!
post edited by pgmoney - 2010/06/19 13:49:32

 


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    pgmoney
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/09 23:09:54 (permalink)
    to give you a idea of why setting up fah on regular hdd's on a SSD system is important for folding here is my folder size just after downloading the work units. imagine after I do 24-48 hours worth how big this will get. it's already 98.9 MB without finishing a single WU!!


     


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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/09 23:12:35 (permalink)
    Great guide!  I saved this one for myself when I get my ssd's.  Thanks!

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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/09 23:31:14 (permalink)
    great guide pg! and here is a guide for those who don't know how to setup hfm.net http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=410857
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/10 00:11:50 (permalink)
    You can't fold if you have a SSD?

    Never knew folding can affect your hard drive like that
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/10 00:41:36 (permalink)
    You can fold with an SSD, but the significant increase in writes to the drive will reduce the lifespan somewhat. This is a great guide for anyone using an SSD that is concerned about the lifespan.

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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/10 01:01:00 (permalink)
     So your telling me I can fold with my Intel 80GB G2 SSD??? Should I? What are the PPD like?

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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/10 02:20:59 (permalink)
    it makes no change in PPD to fold with a SSD, just slows down your drive and kills it faster

     


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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/11 10:06:57 (permalink)
    Thanx for this guide! I will try to use it when i get time. I have only JUST started folding a wee bit, but would like to get on folding regularly. So this guide should help out my SSDs :D

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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/14 06:56:04 (permalink)
    great guide - thanks for the post
     
    Edit:
    Using that SMP client my i7 CPU is only being used around 12% unlike my previous setup with the vmware client. Have I entered some settings wrong, or is that to be expected from this particular client?
    post edited by waycon - 2010/06/14 07:06:07
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/14 13:31:07 (permalink)
    thanks for that guide pg I didnt even think of all the wear and tear on the ssd I switched my gpu clients over soon as I read this and will be doing my smp client when it finnishes its WU blue ribbon for pg thanks again

      

           
         
     
     
     
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/06/16 08:41:02 (permalink)
    I fold under VMware on a SSD RAID 0 array and it helps speed up submitting bigadv work units.  If you don't want to go through all those steps just get the console client, it doesn't care where it's run from and if you need to pass in extra flags just make a batch script.  If you want to see an example script send me a message with your email and I can send it to you after I get back home on Monday.
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/07/14 16:31:56 (permalink)
    these guides need to get sticky or put in blizzie's folding@home index sticky. tired of searching for them.
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/07/14 22:35:47 (permalink)
    +1 (i've taken to screengrabbing just in case the servers try to turn tasmac's awesome guides into 's)
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/07/14 23:03:31 (permalink)
    valkyriesII

    these guides need to get sticky or put in blizzie's folding@home index sticky. tired of searching for them.


    shoot a pm to him and he´ll see if he can do it (needs approval)

     
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/07/15 21:23:00 (permalink)
    Thank you for putting this guide together. I just transfered all of my clients over to my hard drive and it's working perfectly.


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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/07/19 03:20:17 (permalink)
    Added to sticky thread.
    Thanks for your contribution pgmoney.


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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/07/19 05:02:20 (permalink)
    Wow, this is exactly what I need, thank you pgmoney

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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/07/19 16:25:29 (permalink)
    Blizzie

    Added to sticky thread.
    Thanks for your contribution pgmoney.


    thanks i even had to search for it after i reinstalled my os on a new ssd after breaking my 3 x ssd raid 0 up to get trim support.

     


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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/09/05 18:22:48 (permalink)
    Thx for taking the time to explain everything.

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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/09/05 18:30:25 (permalink)
    I have all ssd's in my system but have been folding to an old flash drive.. Works great ... Joe
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/09/05 22:45:48 (permalink)
    hey can I add one more thing
    This will add much more to the life of your ssd if you want to fold on it.
    I fold on my Netbook which has a ssd
    Its very hard for me to believe that no body said anything.
    change your interval from 5 to 30 min. It will up your PPD and cause less writes to your drive. The only thing that will change if you exit out of the client you will lose work from in between the 30 mark instead of the 5 mark. It doesn't make a difference to me I like the PPD gain.







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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/09/06 08:20:17 (permalink)
    Great guide. I haven't been on in a while but and need to get my main rig up and folding again. This is exactly what i was looking for.





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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/09/18 18:34:25 (permalink)
     Thank you for the guide. Hopefully it will save my ssd.




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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/10/14 14:40:48 (permalink)
    Thanks for the guide !!!!!  Just installed the new Windows STMP beta v6.30 and this was the ez't one to install and so far no problems.

    What is new in version 6.30?

    • With the release of the mutli-threaded a3 fahcore and work units, and the retirement of the a1 and a2 work unit projects, the MPICH or Deino portion of the SMP client installation is no longer needed. As a result, the client installer and the install.bat have been dropped from the install process. This also removes the requirement to use a Windows user account with a password, although it's always a good idea to use a password.
    • Installing the client as a service is also simpler. Editing the service login account is no longer needed.
    • The SMP console client now behaves much like the CPU and GPU console clients, although the SMP client is still considered a beta client
    and on a regular drve !!!
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/10/26 01:49:30 (permalink)
    I'm trying to follow the guide,  C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming, but I can't find appdata any where in that folder.
     
    Wouldn't it be easier if I just install folding@home to my regular HD? I'm just using one client and not folding on my 2nd 470GTX.

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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/10/26 09:43:48 (permalink)
    Depending on how far you want to take this, you are also able to move the folder with the executable.  Just move the whole folder from the original install on the C drive to the preferred drive (as well as the rest of PG's steps).
     
    My shortcuts are setup like this:
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2010/10/26 09:52:11 (permalink)
    I'm trying to follow the guide,  C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming, but I can't find appdata any where in that folder.
     
    You have enable "to show hidden files" in folder options.
     

       
                 
      
          
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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2011/03/30 05:10:07 (permalink)
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    Depending on how far you want to take this, you are also able to move the folder with the executable.  Just move the whole folder from the original install on the C drive to the preferred drive (as well as the rest of PG's steps).

    My shortcuts are setup like this:
    Target: F:\Programs\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu\Folding@home.exe -gpu 0 -forcegpu nvidia_fermi
    Starts In:  F:\Programs\Folding@home-gpu

    This is what I did in my shortcut for FAH GPU tracker and it appears that everything is just running off of the F (E in my case) drive.  No folders appeared in my roaming folder.  Two did pop up in my "local" folder, but those are just config files.
     
    Thanks for the Guide PG...Glad you got a BR for this one. 


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    Re:How to fold on SSD set up with multiple gpu3 & -advmethods clients 2011/03/30 16:45:49 (permalink)
    Hey guys, also if you want to save your SSD's (off topic but i figure i'd add it in just in case no one knew) disable windows paging files to your hard drive.  If you need to know how to do it either PM me or look it up on google.  It is VERY bad for your SSD and will destroy it FAST.  Windows constantly writes and erases before putting programs into ram.

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