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So got kicked for camping AA in spawn when i was CLEARLY outside of spawn. Shooting a boat. Shooting jets. Playing the game. But yet again EVGA admin have to abuse powers as usual. Blew up in chat and will not be joining another gaming event. Isnt even worth it anymore. Many others are with me also. Cant even fill the servers giving things away. Other team has a tank literally inside spawn and i get kicked. EVGA needs to fix its admin staff. And i hope you recorded every word i wrote in that chat and perma banned me. Should do it on the forums also. As at this point i wish all the information and posts i have here be removed.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/18 20:03:27
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It seems not every admin got the memo about the updated server rules. What you was doing is perfectly fine.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/18 22:21:09
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/18 22:55:34
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Curious to know who the admin was and what they're reasons were behind it.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/19 09:18:35
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I'll follow up to make sure EVGA sees this. I know AB is, as well. I'm not aware of what happened or not, beyond what's in the OP, so I don't have a stake in this one way or the other, but I can at least make sure the relevant parties are aware of this thread.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/19 09:47:14
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Hi Violence.,
The admin that kicked you was one of our new admins and unfortunately was not aware of the rule change. I do apologize for any inconvenience and hope to see you in-game soon.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/19 13:55:24
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After last nights events i will be sitting out of gaming events for a while. Just isn't worth it anymore and not enjoyable. Every event there is reports like this the entire time. Thank you for the help but i will not be participating in any events from here on out. Just is not worth the head ache.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/19 14:48:59
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Simple mistake. I wasn't aware the rules changed so drastically either.
 Not my fault if you're offended.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/19 15:22:21
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fearpoint Simple mistake. I wasn't aware the rules changed so drastically either.
Give Violence a big sloppy kiss and will call it even.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/19 16:45:29
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EVGATech_ChristianB The admin that kicked you was one of our new admins and unfortunately was not aware of the rule change.
How exactly are server admins allowed to administrate a server, yet not know what rules they are supposed to be enforcing? Are the particular game admins not part of the rule making process? I would think step one of posting a new set of rules would be a post / email to all server admins to actually read the rules they are to enforce in case a few were absent during the new rule discussions... And if they don't respond with saying they read them, they should have their rights removed until stating they have been reviewed.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/19 18:08:38
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Violence. So got kicked for camping AA in spawn when i was CLEARLY outside of spawn. Shooting a boat. Shooting jets. Playing the game. But yet again EVGA admin have to abuse powers as usual. Blew up in chat and will not be joining another gaming event. Isnt even worth it anymore. Many others are with me also. Cant even fill the servers giving things away. Other team has a tank literally inside spawn and i get kicked. EVGA needs to fix its admin staff. And i hope you recorded every word i wrote in that chat and perma banned me. Should do it on the forums also. As at this point i wish all the information and posts i have here be removed.
Good to know you experienced it first hand and it surprises me that you out of all the people got the boot. Mistake or not, Admins should be aware of the rules, new and old.  very sad some just ignore to read them
Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!  The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/20 15:49:46
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/20 19:37:17
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Violence.
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Violence. So got kicked for camping AA in spawn when i was CLEARLY outside of spawn. Shooting a boat. Shooting jets. Playing the game. But yet again EVGA admin have to abuse powers as usual. Blew up in chat and will not be joining another gaming event. Isnt even worth it anymore. Many others are with me also. Cant even fill the servers giving things away. Other team has a tank literally inside spawn and i get kicked. EVGA needs to fix its admin staff. And i hope you recorded every word i wrote in that chat and perma banned me. Should do it on the forums also. As at this point i wish all the information and posts i have here be removed.
Good to know you experienced it first hand and it surprises me that you out of all the people got the boot. Mistake or not, Admins should be aware of the rules, new and old. very sad some just ignore to read them
Now i can say this. I have not had the best track record and have a short temper. This time i chose to keep my mouth shut and not make a scene when they were first talking and throwing warning at me. I just kinda laughed and made sure i was in regular playing grounds clearly outside of spawn. Figured if anything they would see me fighting the enemy which i was doing all match and having a good round. Was going back and forth with a couple different enemy. Just playing. Then all of a sudden boom. Booted. This is when i blew up. I could have at first but out of respect for a few other admin staff i didn't wanna make a big stink at first as usual. Those few select ones i will talk to even if they answer me or not do have my respect and if they tell me to stop ill clam up. They know who they are. But this time its just to much. Its every gaming event there is some sort of drama. Just isnt worth it anymore. Hopefully things change in the near future but until then ill sit on the sidelines.
The more i read about these incidents happening to well known members, the more i feel i was right all along. That is how it starts and has become a trend. They provoke you so they can have a reason to perm/temp ban you if you do or say something against them or the TOS. They even bring that drama to the forums too if you noticed. You can have all the proof in the world and still will slap you in your face by not punishing the Admin or Moderator. It is very sad that EGC started in a good note back in the days and now it is going the opposite direction. It was fun back then when i was an EGC Admin, there was not a disappointing night, even when we lost matches against other teams out there or when we played against each other, we still went to bed with a good laugh at it and that is a proven fact. Heck even the VIP people in the forums such as Jacob, EVGA Techs/Moderators or Agent Tiny (miss this guy) would show up in the server once in a while just to see how fun and competitive it was. During these times i can say i was excited to come home from work and play this game every night for a whole 2 years straight, it did not matter if i lost my sleep hours, it was worth every moment/minute of it. Now in days, the only way you can have fun now is having a private server and inviting a number of friends to join you.
Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!  The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/21 18:53:19
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It really is something that needs to be fixed. This kinda stuff will do nothing but hurt the gaming community and keep the servers empty. Id love to see it go back to how things were a couple years back. But dont see that happening anytime soon
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 09:35:29
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Violence, I commend you on the progress. We have spoken through FB and you know how I feel. We have a couple new admins that just started right before the event and we have a couple out for personal reasons. To be honest when I started doing this it was easy, everyone played together and we all had fun. Then some chose to leave and become vindictive. Pushing the limits and trying to get admins to break (remember ManBearPig?). So new rules were implemented mainly to keep the racist and homophobic speech out, which should be filtered anyway. Then EVGA decided that the language should be cleaned up because the personal attacks were getting worse. So that happened. Rules have been changed and adapted since then, are they perfect? NO! But trying to push their limits and sending scathing emails and posts telling how wrong we are doing how does that help? When admins are worried if they say something to the wrong person are they gonna have a long forum post to look forward to? We are human we do make mistakes but when we are pushed over and over again those mistakes get easier to make. So how about try this, instead of coming in here and complaining how about you say... Man the servers are running smooth (because they are) Man its nice not to be cursed out after I kill someone (because that happens) or how about good job guys thanks for the awesome prizes no other hardware company does cool stuff like this. That would be incentive and building the community. See these admins are not solely at fault for fragmenting the EVGA gaming community... The people who try to obstruct, spew venom and push the limits as well as post every time a feeler is hurt is doing the same if not worse. So how about band together to build and stop trying to break.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 10:51:58
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well said. I am interested to see where this goes.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 11:47:45
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Didn't you know Violence it's all our fault. None of the current or past admins never did anything vindictive towards anyone. I will admit this, ChristianB is doing a better job than how things were managed for the past 2 years.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 12:48:24
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sinned. Violence, I commend you on the progress. We have spoken through FB and you know how I feel. We have a couple new admins that just started right before the event and we have a couple out for personal reasons. To be honest when I started doing this it was easy, everyone played together and we all had fun. Then some chose to leave and become vindictive. Pushing the limits and trying to get admins to break (remember ManBearPig?). So new rules were implemented mainly to keep the racist and homophobic speech out, which should be filtered anyway. Then EVGA decided that the language should be cleaned up because the personal attacks were getting worse. So that happened. Rules have been changed and adapted since then, are they perfect? NO! But trying to push their limits and sending scathing emails and posts telling how wrong we are doing how does that help? When admins are worried if they say something to the wrong person are they gonna have a long forum post to look forward to? We are human we do make mistakes but when we are pushed over and over again those mistakes get easier to make. So how about try this, instead of coming in here and complaining how about you say... Man the servers are running smooth (because they are) Man its nice not to be cursed out after I kill someone (because that happens) or how about good job guys thanks for the awesome prizes no other hardware company does cool stuff like this. That would be incentive and building the community. See these admins are not solely at fault for fragmenting the EVGA gaming community... The people who try to obstruct, spew venom and push the limits as well as post every time a feeler is hurt is doing the same if not worse. So how about band together to build and stop trying to break.
This was done back in the days also, and many Admins supported one another when that happened if someone was doing it, even when an Admin was going out of hand, I personally would call it out and for some reason, i was the one getting the punishment because i was not being supportive of my fellow Admin. Admin, friend, Moderator, or stranger player, i will call you out when you were going out of hand or played erratically, specially when you were friends of people playing in the server suspected of being cheaters. All i know some Admins and EGC players think most people playing in the server are stupid, and when they find their counterpart being smarter than they are or playing better than they are, they start acting up. I commend past, present and future players and admins who bring the truth out of light. It helps the community and new members joining to have a better experience. Of a positive deed, good outcomes will come, not the opposite.
Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!  The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 12:59:42
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atfrico
sinned. Violence, I commend you on the progress. We have spoken through FB and you know how I feel. We have a couple new admins that just started right before the event and we have a couple out for personal reasons. To be honest when I started doing this it was easy, everyone played together and we all had fun. Then some chose to leave and become vindictive. Pushing the limits and trying to get admins to break (remember ManBearPig?). So new rules were implemented mainly to keep the racist and homophobic speech out, which should be filtered anyway. Then EVGA decided that the language should be cleaned up because the personal attacks were getting worse. So that happened. Rules have been changed and adapted since then, are they perfect? NO! But trying to push their limits and sending scathing emails and posts telling how wrong we are doing how does that help? When admins are worried if they say something to the wrong person are they gonna have a long forum post to look forward to? We are human we do make mistakes but when we are pushed over and over again those mistakes get easier to make. So how about try this, instead of coming in here and complaining how about you say... Man the servers are running smooth (because they are) Man its nice not to be cursed out after I kill someone (because that happens) or how about good job guys thanks for the awesome prizes no other hardware company does cool stuff like this. That would be incentive and building the community. See these admins are not solely at fault for fragmenting the EVGA gaming community... The people who try to obstruct, spew venom and push the limits as well as post every time a feeler is hurt is doing the same if not worse. So how about band together to build and stop trying to break.
This was done back in the days also, and many Admins supported one another when that happened if someone was doing it, even when an Admin was going out of hand, I personally would call it out and for some reason, i was the one getting the punishment because i was not being supportive of my fellow Admin. Admin, friend, Moderator, or stranger player, i will call you out when you were going out of hand or played erratically, specially when you were friends of people playing in the server suspected of being cheaters. All i know some Admins and EGC players think most people playing in the server are stupid, and when they find their counterpart being smarter than they are or playing better than they are, they start acting up. I commend past, present and future players and admins who bring the truth out of light. It helps the community and new members joining to have a better experience. Of a positive deed, good outcomes will come, not the opposite.
We know the new guy fouled up on this one. No one has denied it and now he knows the new rule. It is not about that really we all know that. I am putting myself out here to try to fix this. I have tried before and will do it again. There is no reason in the world people should still be sour after how many years? Have I got angry? You bet your butt I have, who doesn't when they get pushed enough? You know it's just like when Wrinvert lost his admin, he was trolled long enough and snapped. We have a set of rules to follow, sure there are more rules than there were 3 years ago but the gaming world has changed a lot since then also. We get comp teams stacking (sometimes 15-20 in the server at once), we have people that spew hate speak non stop, and we have the people who want to see how much we will bend. Like I said before I have done wrong and know it, and the people who have pushed the buttons know it. I am trying to say LETS BUILD not BREAK. Its not hard to do at all.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 13:32:48
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sinned.
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sinned. Violence, I commend you on the progress. We have spoken through FB and you know how I feel. We have a couple new admins that just started right before the event and we have a couple out for personal reasons. To be honest when I started doing this it was easy, everyone played together and we all had fun. Then some chose to leave and become vindictive. Pushing the limits and trying to get admins to break (remember ManBearPig?). So new rules were implemented mainly to keep the racist and homophobic speech out, which should be filtered anyway. Then EVGA decided that the language should be cleaned up because the personal attacks were getting worse. So that happened. Rules have been changed and adapted since then, are they perfect? NO! But trying to push their limits and sending scathing emails and posts telling how wrong we are doing how does that help? When admins are worried if they say something to the wrong person are they gonna have a long forum post to look forward to? We are human we do make mistakes but when we are pushed over and over again those mistakes get easier to make. So how about try this, instead of coming in here and complaining how about you say... Man the servers are running smooth (because they are) Man its nice not to be cursed out after I kill someone (because that happens) or how about good job guys thanks for the awesome prizes no other hardware company does cool stuff like this. That would be incentive and building the community. See these admins are not solely at fault for fragmenting the EVGA gaming community... The people who try to obstruct, spew venom and push the limits as well as post every time a feeler is hurt is doing the same if not worse. So how about band together to build and stop trying to break.
This was done back in the days also, and many Admins supported one another when that happened if someone was doing it, even when an Admin was going out of hand, I personally would call it out and for some reason, i was the one getting the punishment because i was not being supportive of my fellow Admin. Admin, friend, Moderator, or stranger player, i will call you out when you were going out of hand or played erratically, specially when you were friends of people playing in the server suspected of being cheaters. All i know some Admins and EGC players think most people playing in the server are stupid, and when they find their counterpart being smarter than they are or playing better than they are, they start acting up. I commend past, present and future players and admins who bring the truth out of light. It helps the community and new members joining to have a better experience. Of a positive deed, good outcomes will come, not the opposite.
We know the new guy fouled up on this one. No one has denied it and now he knows the new rule. It is not about that really we all know that. I am putting myself out here to try to fix this. I have tried before and will do it again. There is no reason in the world people should still be sour after how many years? Have I got angry? You bet your butt I have, who doesn't when they get pushed enough? You know it's just like when Wrinvert lost his admin, he was trolled long enough and snapped. We have a set of rules to follow, sure there are more rules than there were 3 years ago but the gaming world has changed a lot since then also. We get comp teams stacking (sometimes 15-20 in the server at once), we have people that spew hate speak non stop, and we have the people who want to see how much we will bend. Like I said before I have done wrong and know it, and the people who have pushed the buttons know it. I am trying to say LETS BUILD not BREAK. Its not hard to do at all.
Granted you are one of the few, but like many good Admins before, they walked out due to the abuse and it was obvious. Wrinvert, God rest his soul, was not the only one who approached me and told me i was right. There were many of the pack, Admins/non Admins in TS who approached me also and admitted it the bad vibe in EGC they saw every night. I know you are trying your best, but in reality, it has become a trend, and no matter what good you do at this point, any little thing will trigger the bad taste and memories others want to forget. My suggestion, New Admins should go in with a 1 month trial probation, and none of them have the right to do anything unless it is approved. I did that when i started, i would not kick or ban anyone until the Top Head will say go for it, i even consulted with other Admins before me, if it was ok to do this or do that. When in doubt, don't just go for it, you need to ask, because a question is not a dumb question in my book, no matter how stupid the subject is. In addition, if you are the only Admin there, and you are unsure what to do, simply contact the person in charge and if he/she is not answering, go to the next one and in case no one replies, get off the server and wait till you get an answer. I even messed up too when someone was calling me names, i retaliated and because i did, i was wrong as per the Admins code of conduct, but after this incident i learned and many did from my mistake. There are a lot of Egos in EGC that need to be checked, and this also, includes SOME Moderators in the forums, some act on how they feel towards a person and not by what they think is right or wrong. I am all about common sense, you don't have it, i'll show you to have one with me. You can still search BC2 Videos, BF3 and BF4 videos post by members. You can tell the difference from their voices how enjoyable it was when BC2 came out compare to BF3 and BF4.
post edited by atfrico - 2016/10/22 13:44:36
Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!  The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 15:02:34
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Honestly the entire situation is out of hand now and needs to stop. Simple as that. Either its going to be fixed at this point or certain people need a permaban and EGC needs to just move on. Thats only solution at this point. I for one am up for rebuilding.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 15:10:26
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Thanks violence, now let's see who else will jump on!
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 15:46:09
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I am for "the GOOD change" before and will not stop now.
Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!  The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 15:49:50
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That makes 3 of us. It's a beginning guys!
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 16:14:03
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This topic almost has as many views as the event topic.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 16:26:50
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MSim This topic almost has as many views as the event topic. 
You should know why  , so are you in or not?
Those who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags!  The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. When you abuse it, it reverses on you and it hurts you.The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 17:50:56
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Violence. Honestly the entire situation is out of hand now and needs to stop. Simple as that. Either its going to be fixed at this point or certain people need a permaban and EGC needs to just move on. Thats only solution at this point. I for one am up for rebuilding.
What happened that you feel certain people need a permaban? The "worst" thing that has happened so far, is you being kicked. That was an honest mistake by the new admin, the server rules were just updated right before the gaming event started.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 19:14:28
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MSim
Violence. Honestly the entire situation is out of hand now and needs to stop. Simple as that. Either its going to be fixed at this point or certain people need a permaban and EGC needs to just move on. Thats only solution at this point. I for one am up for rebuilding.
What happened that you feel certain people need a permaban? The "worst" thing that has happened so far, is you being kicked. That was an honest mistake by the new admin, the server rules were just updated right before the gaming event started.
Why dodge the question you were asked in the post before this?
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/22 20:31:03
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Violence. Why dodge the question you were asked in the post before this?
I'll tell you in private.
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Re: Admin abuse. Again
2016/10/23 03:13:41
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☄ Helpfulby Violence. 2016/10/23 07:22:59
It's not us against them Sim, it never has been. If the environment isn't created there's no reason to do anything wrong. What we are trying to do is build from this not continue to create the environment. A few of us had a great time last night playing BF1 no tension, no strife just old friends gaming like we use to do. The glue that held EGC together was never a single person at all it was like minded people playing video games and helping each other out with computer stuff. No one person should try to tear it apart whether it be an admin, staff, ex admin or someone that just visits the forums. EGC is a community that EVGA built on their hardware we as players just came together under that. It's unique to say the least. Sure other companies give away stuff on twitter and Facebook but who else tries to build a community by hosting servers and really giving away some cool stuff.... no one, no one at all. So, that question lingers...
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