No zuo no die why you try
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 

I'm actually rather interested in the Titan Z... Not sure how I will be able to afford one yet lol.  It would be the last card I would buy for a while.

asmodyus
I hope that this cards fails and never gets released and Nvidia wakes up.

its not for you
Why would you want it to fail?
 

I'm sure we'll see lots of benchmarks and then you'll have to see if the Titan Z is the card for you.

I would hope that it is a successful card and the people who buy it really need all that it offers.
AMD has responded with their best effort and I feel their is a market for many different priced options.
I would not with it to fail because of price alone 

asmodyus

starsmine

asmodyus
I hope that this cards fails and never gets released and Nvidia wakes up.

its not for you
Why would you want it to fail?
 

Because honestly there no reason for the card to be priced for what it does Nvidia knows it by not releasing it because they actually got competition this time. The whole titan line in my opinion is overpriced because for awhile nothing could really touch it now and that AMD is releasing cards that perform the same at half the cost. And yes the titan is an in between card but it's still marketed toward the gaming crowd.

The entire titan line up is a filling a small nich, the nich between what the geforce line provides and what the quadro line provides. It is priced and performance right there
Titan is marketed as a gaming card and as a cheap workstation card.
 
I guess I may not be putting the best words down for this, but I repeat this card is not for you. Titan is not overpriced, its cheaper then most of the quadro line.
I find it incredibly arrogant that so many people think they have to afford the best gaming GPU or there is something wrong with the compony providing the cards.
Titan is directed at a specific market, gamers and only gamers is not that market. The market is for people that want something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133494&cm_re=quadro-_-14-133-494-_-Product but dont need all the features, who also happen to do alot of gaming. 
 
Thats like complaing to Porsche that you cant afford a 911 turbo S, Your not the market for the car. 



 

I'm interested in the Titan lines because I do/have interest in a lot of the production and content creation but I still enjoy gaming.  In my "niche" it's not a bad idea.  I will agree I am a bit staggered by the price (but not so much that its out of the question) when I can save 800-1000 and just get dual Titan Blacks but I may want the extra PCIe lanes for other devices like PCIe drives and RAID cards.

Sajin

ty_ger07
Thread title is misleading. Titan Z's double precision performance is less than the 295X2? I doubt it.

Titan Z comes in at 8 teraflops. 295x2 comes in at 11.5. 

We all use the same internet, you should have access to the same numbers online.

• Single-Precision: Titan Z comes in at 8 teraflops. 295x2 comes in at 11.5-- 37% slower, sucks for gamers getting Titan Z
• Double Precision: Titan Z comes in at 2.3 teraflops. 295x2 comes in at 1.3-- 56% faster, why should Titan Z be cheaper?
• Power consumption: Titan Z comes in at 375W. 295x2 comes in at 500W-- 33% less, why should Titan Z be cheaper?

 

the power consumtion is on the chinese picture lehpron posted tdp: 375.

personally I make it a habbit not to believe chinese information as it has been wrong many times. my worry is that the 295x2 is a already overclocked card. so any overclockers will already be reaching ita limit a lot faster than the z. this can be observed by the liquid cooling and the clock is already higher than that of the 290x.

the z fills a void between the quaddro and the geforce. the issue is that 2 titan black are about 2000 but a single titan z (which is similiar to 2 titan black) is 3000. so there is a premium for that. so I think hmmm maybe going for small form factor pc. but no it has 3 sln t design. so now most small factor are out of this game. so who are the targetting those with massive cases. no because buying 4 black is cheaper than 2 z's. thos with small cases. no because you can only fit 1 z or 2 blacks. I don't know what nvidia is doing with this card.

well its clocked less then a titan, let alon a titan black. And its one PCB, 375 is belivable.
 
Besides its 2 8 pins, do the math, thats 375
75+150+150

Sajin

seta8967
the power consumtion is on the chinese picture lehpron posted tdp: 375.

I can see that now that lehpron edited it in. 375W is bull. One Titan Black is 250W.

Dual-GPU cards share power circuitry, they are also compressed in more layers of PCB, which is partly to blame for upping the costs.  GTX580 was 244W while GTX590 was 365W; it stands to reason if it has been done before, therefore...
 
nVidia is certain technologically able to compress things further, but it costs money.  Take their mobile GeForce GTX880M:

• it has nearly identical specs to fullsize desktop GTX680
• except four times as much Vram (8GB GDDR5) and
• half the power rating (slight over 100W)
• in a space half that of the desktop card.  

The cost for the card will be higher than the $700 GTX780M with half the Vram.  If nVidia put two of these on a PCB, I'm sure they could; it would be a GTX690 with 16GB of GDDR5 onboard while drawing the same power as a GTX770.  It better darn well cost over $2000 to compensate for the engineering, but there is no demand for such a thing at this time.  
  
Cost isn't just about specs and performance, it is about how the darn thing was made.  What do you want to pay for, half-arse relaxed engineering just to make it cheaper, or saving power and space in order to get more GPUs in the same form factor?  Two Titan Blacks in the space of one had to take hits from reduced clockspeed, to needing more PCB layers for packed in circuitry, etc.   To get that power level down, nVidia did whatever it took, but see, they can do more, it just could cost more money.

RuffeDK
What happened to OP?

The following link should answer your question: http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2167579
 
 
Locking, as the OP has given up on this thread too.