nightwing2007
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so you know all the post for help for bf3 and bf4 not being able to play online due to lag and stuff like hit detection So a guy on my street plays both bf3 and 4 so my brother went to his house like 3 doors down there on the same internet provider and us same speeds he pc has older hardware then mine but it like night and day he can get 6 to 10 killing sprees the hit detection is good he has no lag what's so ever. so him and my brother took his pc to our house but first he played on my pc and he could not believe how bad the game was playing so he hooked up his and it played good he said for like ever 10 shot I take may be 1 lands on the guy then he say I am getting hit even after taking cover he set up the game the same way as on his pc and still sucked on mine Then he said that the game is just un playable and if it was him he would not even play it
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ILikeBeans
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/18 23:17:09
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buy his PC... well, your closer to figuring it out anyway. I wonder if something is messed up with your lan ports or something blocking the games network priority.
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nightwing2007
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/19 00:06:15
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not sure he has the same default router as me the one that shaw hooks up on the install I asked if he did that port forwarding he said no and there 4 pc hook up to the router at his place. we are going to hook up my pc at his house after Easter to see if it my connection but I had shaw here like 3 week to check every thing they said it was good and gave me a new router and land cable and my pc the only thing hooked to the router. like he running a 3570k 670 we get the same download and upload and pings but yet the game plays super good on his connection when he came and played bf4 at my place same map and server he could not believe how hard it was to kill some one he said with a setup like mine there should be no way my kills a game should be around 20 or higher per game even if your a bad player he got 46 kills on his pc and like 9 on mine and he only 3 doors down what the hell the only diff is he has older hardware and running windows 7 I think the battlefield gods just hate me you know how many time I redid windows google bf3 and 4 tweaks I did every thing I do know when I have the upper hand on some one but yet I lose the battle it very sad and he said my fps are really good even when I run the in game system test it good its always green bars
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ILikeBeans
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/19 00:30:16
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Control Panel/Windows Firewall/Allow programs to communicate through Windows Firewall also, Advanced Settings/Inbound Rules check for PnkBstrA, B in here as well. IDK, maybe virus software
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nightwing2007
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/19 00:47:30
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I don't use any virus software just the windows defender and what do you mean by Control Panel/Windows Firewall/Allow programs to communicate through Windows Firewall also, Advanced Settings/Inbound Rules check for PnkBstrA, B in here as well.
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nightwing2007
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/19 00:51:55
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is this what you were talking about
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/19 13:52:50
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Yes, have you tried using your other LAN port... Is the game loaded on your C: drive? Possibly a SATA port or cable???? If your friends PC, at your house, is much different than yours and you both have roughly the same FPS. Then there is something screwy with your PC sending info back out to the network. Although the Speed Test doesn't indicate this with your upload speed and jitter compared to your friends....or does it? I am at a loss my friend.
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nightwing2007
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/19 19:48:03
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my other land port I only have one or do you mean on the router. No I picked up a 120 ssd just for battlefield so my drives go . samsung 128 ssd for /windows c drive wd black 1tb/ storage d drive Kingston 120 ssd battlefield e drive my hardware his hardware 4670k 3570k gtx 780 gtx 760 8 gigs of 1866 2x4 16 gig of 1600 2x8 z87 motherboard z77 motherboard 650 psu 750 psu ssd for windows 240 ssd for windows hd for storage wd 2tb drive ssd for bf3 and bf4 windows 7 pro windows 8.1 so I spent all last night doing a clean install of windows 8.1 I have nothing installed just drivers and bf4 and windows updates and it the same thing like a guy can be like 3 feet away and I blast 8 shot and I know they all hit and nothing but 1 shot I am down it not just that it get up from saves 99% of the time I cant I know your going to get hit now and then but come one its like slow motion for me. my fps with ultra is like 135 to 144 but no matter how fast my fps is it not going to help lag and hit detection all I want is to have a fair game if I plow 10 shot in to a guy he should drop. I am temped to go back to windows 7 I know you all say windows 8 and bf4 but how much of a performance hit will I take I would rather lose 10 fps then not being able to play at all. and I don't accept to go in to a game and come out with 150 kill but there other guys on like with good pc that can play the game some say it the net code thing some say rubber banding but I thing I have all them things
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/20 13:19:36
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A lot of motherboards have two LAN ports for your internet. I can't comment on 8.1, but some how I don't think that is your problem from the difference you describe from your friends machine. If 8.1 was the prob like yours, the community would have gone nuclear by now over it. Were you able to play on your friends computer so that you know for yourself the big difference? Can the two of you run ping and jitter test on the same network to compare?
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nightwing2007
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/20 15:45:24
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/20 16:10:43
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Ok we ran pingtest.net but we did not do the packet loss we both did the L.A sever His ping 52 jitter 1 grade B my run ping 61 jitter 4 grade B so not much of a difference I did read the killer land is not so good but I don't use the software I got the main driver with out the killer software from msi support I all so tried a intel land card 100/1000 Don't windows 8 use more bandwidth like apps running in the back ground and things I could be wrong.
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/20 22:38:54
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I ran the test multiple times on that same server and it never was that much different if at all. If you are testing your friends PC then unplugging the connection from his and plugging into your PC and getting those results, I'd think there was something wrong. Have you tried installing that Killer software and configuring it correctly? You shouldn't get worse results than your friends PC. It's probably giving you a B rating because you are not running the packet loss part though. You make it sound like your friends PC is drastically different than yours, so I can't say this is the issue. Also, it's been a while since I played BF, but I think there is a way to test the server and it will give you packet loss. If I remember right just about everyone I tried suffered from packet loss at the time. I know most people have the experience you describe, but I can't say to what degree. As far as 8.1 I would think no. There shouldn't be any bandwidth used unless you have windows setup to check for updates automatically or something like that. Check task manager for applications and processes running.
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/21 00:45:00
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I tried to google and youtube how to set it up but I found nothing there stuff you can turn off but not sure what or how to use it I have windows update set to let me chose to install them
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/21 14:24:24
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Here is something that should be basically the same, although I'm not expecting big improvements. It's just that a ping of 9 difference between PC's seems wrong.
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/21 17:53:40
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looks like the only major difference between you and your friends setup is you are playing the game on a seperate ssd. Have you tried loading the game onto the c: drive and playing from there?
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/21 23:35:40
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backdoc77 looks like the only major difference between you and your friends setup is you are playing the game on a seperate ssd. Have you tried loading the game onto the c: drive and playing from there?
I've tried that myself and it didn't make a difference
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/21 23:55:00
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ILikeBeans I ran the test multiple times on that same server and it never was that much different if at all. If you are testing your friends PC then unplugging the connection from his and plugging into your PC and getting those results, I'd think there was something wrong. Have you tried installing that Killer software and configuring it correctly? You shouldn't get worse results than your friends PC. It's probably giving you a B rating because you are not running the packet loss part though. You make it sound like your friends PC is drastically different than yours, so I can't say this is the issue. Also, it's been a while since I played BF, but I think there is a way to test the server and it will give you packet loss. If I remember right just about everyone I tried suffered from packet loss at the time. I know most people have the experience you describe, but I can't say to what degree. As far as 8.1 I would think no. There shouldn't be any bandwidth used unless you have windows setup to check for updates automatically or something like that. Check task manager for applications and processes running.
If he has his live tiles active, that could cause issues. That should be turned OFF Its very simple to check with TaskManger, just open it up and look at APP use history
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/22 06:45:34
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Re: battlefield
2014/04/22 11:07:09
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That's awesome Maniac. I thought you had made a 8.1 guide for BF4, but I couldn't find it anywhere. I didn't want to tell him to use W7 just because I don't know poo about 8.1
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