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2014/04/18 09:15:03 (permalink)
Several weeks ago I installed dual 780 TIs into my system, which previously was running 3 x 580s.  I also replaced the DVI-D cable from my only 2560x1600 monitor with a DisplayPort cable.
 
Since the change I've noticed artifacting in Hearthstone, a relatively low-impact game.  The artifacts appear as diagonal lines which flash for a split second, then go away.  It is not frequent.  Changing the game to only use one GPU does not change this behavior (my initial thought it was an SLI profile quirk with the 780 series.)  I did not see this with the 580s in SLI.
 
Secondly, BioShock, another relatively low-impact game (by modern standards), is showing some stuttering every now and then, where the game action will pause for almost a second, then resume.  Again, didn't notice this with the 580s.
 
Thirdly, the system is sometimes not resuming from screen saver now.  My computer is not set to suspend or sleep; it is on all the time.  But it is set to a 'blank' screen saver, and for some reason it will sporadically not wake up from this state. 
 
Sometimes I can get the system to respond by power cycling the monitor, and other times I have to do a hard reset of the system.
 
Any thoughts on any of these issues?  Maybe some or all related to the DisplayPort cable?  Should I try reducing the 780 TI clocks or increasing power to the cards?

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/18 09:48:18 (permalink)
    It sounds like one of your cards is faulty. Take all but the primary card out and test. Keep switching out the cards until you find the issue card. Also did you do a clean install of latest drivers?


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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/18 10:38:45 (permalink)
    just saying - some things I would do
    -reset / update mb bios
    -remove and update monitor dig. drivers
    -having sli you will have 8 x nv hdmi devices in your sound play back devices , also when I went from 580sli to 780sli and to display port cable win7 made my monitor a play back device also. so disable that.
    -right click speaker icon , click play back devices and have a look.
    http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=586183
     
    see post 26-27 to remove nv hdmi's in device manager to clean that up.[until you install next cards]

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/18 12:24:10 (permalink)
    Gomez99
    It sounds like one of your cards is faulty. Take all but the primary card out and test. Keep switching out the cards until you find the issue card. Also did you do a clean install of latest drivers?

    I've done a clean install of the latest drivers.
    I'll troubleshoot one card at a time.

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/18 12:42:22 (permalink)
    Ok report back your findings


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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/24 12:24:20 (permalink)
    OK so I took out the secondary card and I have not seen the symptoms described in my original post.  I'm going to try replacing the current, functioning card with the second card and see if any issues manifest.

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/24 16:49:47 (permalink)
    Am also interested in what happens here. Have had dual classifieds in my build pretty much since the start, and have always experienced this (especially with Bioshock, I know exactly what you are describing, maybe I should upload a video for everyone to see). I've also been noticing this with Diablo 3 recently.
     
    Here's a question, do you run the game with VSYNC turned on? I've been wondering if its just VSYNC stutter because of the high render rate of having two classifieds. 
     
     

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/25 06:11:23 (permalink)
    I was running it with Vsync off (in-game) and adaptive vsync on (control panel.)  I can't imagine a scenario where that would cause it, but ... /shrug. 
     
    I didn't see the stutter in other games, just BioShock.  I haven't tested many other games extensively besides WoW and Hearthstone, just ran some benchmarks in Company of Heroes, its sequel, and BioShock infinite - all with results as expected.
     
    I did end up seeing the Hearthstone corruption after posting my reply above, so I've swapped the cards and I'll do a few more days of testing. 
     
    Another thing I'm wondering if maybe the gpu clock boost feature maybe doesn't work well with certain games.  But the not waking up from a blank screen saver (we're not even sleeping or hibernating) is disturbing.

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/25 06:56:18 (permalink)
    Ok so both cards, used individually, show the occasional diagonal lines flicker in Hearthstone.
     
    Just to troubleshoot further, I've swapped out the displayport cable with the DVI cable I was using originally with my 3 x 580s.  I've also reverted to my original configuration of both 780 TIs installed, and will test for a bit both for game issues or problems coming out of the blank screen saver state.

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/04/25 08:44:35 (permalink)
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    I was running it with Vsync off (in-game) and adaptive vsync on (control panel.)  I can't imagine a scenario where that would cause it, but ... /shrug. 
     
    I didn't see the stutter in other games, just BioShock.  I haven't tested many other games extensively besides WoW and Hearthstone, just ran some benchmarks in Company of Heroes, its sequel, and BioShock infinite - all with results as expected.
     
    I did end up seeing the Hearthstone corruption after posting my reply above, so I've swapped the cards and I'll do a few more days of testing. 
     
    Another thing I'm wondering if maybe the gpu clock boost feature maybe doesn't work well with certain games.  But the not waking up from a blank screen saver (we're not even sleeping or hibernating) is disturbing.


    You don't have to imagine, just Google! ;-) Just look up vsync stutter
     
    So what vsync does is makes your computer wait to draw the next frame, if there isn't once available to complete a full frame frame render (without tearing.) When you have too much processing power, your computer can become flooded with frames that need to be drawn, causing a visual hiccup with vsync. And I'm not sure if you know how SLI works, but for rendering it can essentially render in one of two ways: with each card rendering alternating frames, or by splitting a single frame into top and bottom halves and sending those individual parts off to be rendered, and then pieced backed together. Hope that helps

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/02 02:11:13 (permalink)
    I'm familiar with the way the technology works.  I don't see how vsync would cause the stutter in my case. 
     
    It appears that the issues I was experiencing was due to two factors:  something odd going on with the adaptive power profile for certain games, where setting it to maximum performance for the affected games resolves it; and the 'waking' from a blank screen saver, which appears to be related to my displayport or the displayport cable.  Switching back to a DVI-D cable, and using maximum performance in games that demonstrate visual anomalies or stuttering, has resolved any problems I was having. 
     
    I am now using both 780 TI cards just fine.

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/02 06:54:49 (permalink)
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    I'm familiar with the way the technology works. I don't see how vsync would cause the stutter in my case.

     
    Saying you know how it works, and then saying that right after, obviously mean you don't know how it works, and didn't take two seconds to look it up. Otherwise you would have found the numerous articles online detailing the exact problem. Good luck out there dude
     
     

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/06 05:20:05 (permalink)
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    I'm familiar with the way the technology works. I don't see how vsync would cause the stutter in my case.

     
    Saying you know how it works, and then saying that right after, obviously mean you don't know how it works, and didn't take two seconds to look it up. Otherwise you would have found the numerous articles online detailing the exact problem. Good luck out there dude
     
     


    You are assuming that I didn't test different vsync settings.  You are assuming I didn't know about the technology.  You are ignoring the fact that I describe how I solved my issue, which had nothing to do with vsync.  You need to chill out, man.  Just because you read about one way a game can stutter doesn't mean that it applies to everyone, and it doesn't make you an expert.

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/06 05:40:19 (permalink)
    Wow, you get worked up easy don't you lol
     
    Hey dude I wasn't trying to get you all excited there, don't take it personally. Just pointing out that if you take a few seconds to look something up -- instead of just assuming you know what your talking about -- you might avoid embarrassing yourself in these posts. Try the search box, that's what it's there for ;-)
     
    This thread has obviously derailed, so I'm done here. Good luck man

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/06 22:32:46 (permalink)
     
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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/06 22:36:42 (permalink)
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    I'm familiar with the way the technology works. I don't see how vsync would cause the stutter in my case.

     
    Saying you know how it works, and then saying that right after, obviously mean you don't know how it works, and didn't take two seconds to look it up. Otherwise you would have found the numerous articles online detailing the exact problem. Good luck out there dude
     
     


    You are assuming that I didn't test different vsync settings.  You are assuming I didn't know about the technology.  You are ignoring the fact that I describe how I solved my issue, which had nothing to do with vsync.  You need to chill out, man.  Just because you read about one way a game can stutter doesn't mean that it applies to everyone, and it doesn't make you an expert.


    You cards are fine, try reinstalling the game or replace the crappy monitors with a Gsync enabled set. ;)
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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/06 22:38:28 (permalink)
    Ahhh good old GSync will fix everything


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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/07 05:56:11 (permalink)
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    I'm familiar with the way the technology works. I don't see how vsync would cause the stutter in my case.

     
    Saying you know how it works, and then saying that right after, obviously mean you don't know how it works, and didn't take two seconds to look it up. Otherwise you would have found the numerous articles online detailing the exact problem. Good luck out there dude
     
     


    You are assuming that I didn't test different vsync settings.  You are assuming I didn't know about the technology.  You are ignoring the fact that I describe how I solved my issue, which had nothing to do with vsync.  You need to chill out, man.  Just because you read about one way a game can stutter doesn't mean that it applies to everyone, and it doesn't make you an expert.


    You cards are fine, try reinstalling the game or replace the crappy monitors with a Gsync enabled set. ;)


    The cards are fine.  As I noted above, changing the power setting for the affected games to 'maximum performance' eliminates issues I've had.  I've now seen artifacts in Hearthstone and BioShock 2, and stuttering in Bioshock, all of which were resolved with this simple profile setting change. 
     
    I only use one monitor, an HP ZR30w.  Other than the 'resume from blank screen saver' issue which was resolved by swapping to my trusty DVI-D cable, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the monitor itself (and maybe it was a bad DisplayPort cable, or a bad port on either end, also.)

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    Re: 780 TI SLI - Some game issues and resuming from screen saver 2014/05/07 09:36:03 (permalink)
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    I'm familiar with the way the technology works. I don't see how vsync would cause the stutter in my case.

     
    Saying you know how it works, and then saying that right after, obviously mean you don't know how it works, and didn't take two seconds to look it up. Otherwise you would have found the numerous articles online detailing the exact problem. Good luck out there dude
     
     


    You are assuming that I didn't test different vsync settings.  You are assuming I didn't know about the technology.  You are ignoring the fact that I describe how I solved my issue, which had nothing to do with vsync.  You need to chill out, man.  Just because you read about one way a game can stutter doesn't mean that it applies to everyone, and it doesn't make you an expert.


    You cards are fine, try reinstalling the game or replace the crappy monitors with a Gsync enabled set. ;)




    +1 Have to agree with ntrain here. Friend had a ZR30 and it was horrible. Response time is what, 16 ms? He replaced it with gsync monitor and it made a worlds difference. 

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