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I have 4 x 4GB 1600MHz Crucial Ballistic (quad channel kit) it no longer runs at 1600MHz even at 1333MHz the system has become increasingly unstable.
Originally the only way I could get the system to boot into Windows with the memory clocked to 1600MHz was to increase the voltage from the recommended 1.35 VDC to 1.5 VDC (with blessings from Crucial tier two tech support).
It worked for a while then the system became unstable again so I clocked the memory back down to 1333MHz and the voltage set to 1.5VDC. Even with these settings I’m having difficulty booting into Windows.
I tried to isolate a bad DIMM, but it didn’t matter.
Another t issue I noticed was that according to the manual the system should only need one DIMM and it can be in any slot, I was unable to access BIOS unless I had at least two DIMMS installed. With one DIMM installed I receive error code 6F which is not listed in the manual.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/18 08:09:07
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RMA your RAM and if it still doesn't work it's probably your motherboard. The X79 FTW has a lot of problems.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/18 08:30:03
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Crucial said it’s highly unlikely all four DIMMs are bad I should RMA the MB. EVGA just agreed to cross RMA the MB. The problem could also be memory controller in the CPU. I’m curious as to why I cannot get the system to boot with only one DIMM installed?
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/18 08:37:25
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Have you tried using the XMP profiles? Are you on the most current bios?
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/18 08:57:30
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I was using the XMP profile, but I could not get windows to boot unless I increased the voltage from 1.35 VDC to 1.5 VDC, that worked fine for a few months then the system became unstable again. I had to drop it back down to 1300MHz. Even at 1300MHz and the voltage 1.5 VDC the system boots intermittently. Yes I’m using the latest BIOS.I also checked for any water leaks on the H100.The only hardware changes I made to the system was in December upgraded my 560 GTX to a 760 GTX.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/18 10:01:10
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Did you try testing the RAM using memTest86+? It is a wonderfil program for testing memory.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/18 10:22:07
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If you still want help with the ram let us know the exact part number of the ram.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/18 14:21:25
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/19 17:07:49
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/22 13:23:50
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I don’t think it’s the memory, I put it in a Dell T3600 (which also has an X79 chipset) and ran MemtestX86+ for 4 hours with no errors.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/22 14:41:49
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I would run memtest "good you did it", but if the ram runs at spec in other systems, it boils down to the mobo be it a physical defect, or one in the bios and how its written, or the cpu's memory controller is going out. Anyway to test the cpu and ram on a different motherboard? If so and it works fine then I would maybe suggest rma the board, or selling it and just getting a gigabyte or asus board.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/22 18:03:32
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Throw the CPU in that Dell system as well then you will know for sure if it is indeed the IMC on the CPU or the X79 Dark that is the problem.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/23 13:06:47
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I can’t although they are both socket 2011s the Dell T3600 Precision Workstations has a XEON (E5) CPU.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/26 15:59:53
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Received RMA Replaced mother board set memory voltage to 1.5VDC and XMP Profile 1 (800MHz). Booted up system with Memtest, 5 minutes into the test the CPU overheated and shutdown, water pump on H100i failed. Replaced H100i (I got lucky it was last one on shelf at the local Bestbuy). Ran Memetest86Plus for 4.5 hours with no errors. Windows booted up ok.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/26 16:34:16
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My x-58 sli has the a auto detect option for memory config, I would assume you would have the same option. I would add that Crucial Ballistic is not the best memory . I would have gone with the leading market competitors for memory being 1 Corsair 2 Kinston 3 G-skill With that said by no means am I an expert , but I know outside of the triple channel spectrum my mobo supports, things get dicey. Example : If I install 4 dimms , 3 of those will run on the triple channel spectrum and the 4th will be isolated causing my mem to run at lower speeds. So either 3 dimms or 6 dimms is best . If I had say 4,5, of the 6 dimm slots then it would isolate the others outside the triple spectrum. You can do that but its not going to give you the stock speed of the mem , only the memory capacity .
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 08:24:00
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n8brwn My x-58 sli has the a auto detect option for memory config, I would assume you would have the same option. I would add that Crucial Ballistic is not the best memory . I would have gone with the leading market competitors for memory being1 Corsair2 Kinston3 G-skill With that said by no means am I an expert , but I know outside of the triple channel spectrum my mobo supports, things get dicey.Example : If I install 4 dimms , 3 of those will run on the triple channel spectrum and the 4th will be isolated causing my mem to run at lower speeds.So either 3 dimms or 6 dimms is best . If I had say 4,5, of the 6 dimm slots then it would isolate the others outside the triple spectrum. You can do thatbut its not going to give you the stock speed of the mem , only the memory capacity .
Crucial is a subsiary of Micron. Micron makes the memory and sells it under its Crucial retail name as well as selling its memory chips to other big name memory distributor companies. Micron Technology is also ranked among the Top 5 Semiconductor producing companies in the world. I wouldn't knock Crucial since some of the other companies you recommended instead also use Micron memory in some of their products.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 10:53:39
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I was having the same issue as it seemed stable before but it went out of specs when I was messing with my over clock. This might help you, I did a hard reset of the BIOS turned the rig off pulled the plug and pushed the power button waited for the light to go on and off, then pulled the battery and cleared CMOS for count of 20 seconds and put the batery back in plug the power back in and she is up and running. It was that pause as the window came together and the lights would go out in the keyboard and then it would hang there. This is how I fixed it because I was messing around with the memory when i did this but beware you may have lost your boot sector off your boot drive.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 12:37:31
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n8brwn My x-58 sli has the a auto detect option for memory config, I would assume you would have the same option. I would add that Crucial Ballistic is not the best memory . I would have gone with the leading market competitors for memory being1 Corsair2 Kinston3 G-skill With that said by no means am I an expert , but I know outside of the triple channel spectrum my mobo supports, things get dicey.Example : If I install 4 dimms , 3 of those will run on the triple channel spectrum and the 4th will be isolated causing my mem to run at lower speeds.So either 3 dimms or 6 dimms is best . If I had say 4,5, of the 6 dimm slots then it would isolate the others outside the triple spectrum. You can do thatbut its not going to give you the stock speed of the mem , only the memory capacity .
Crucial is a subsiary of Micron. Micron makes the memory and sells it under its Crucial retail name as well as selling its memory chips to other big name memory distributor companies.
Micron Technology is also ranked among the Top 5 Semiconductor producing companies in the world.
I wouldn't knock Crucial since some of the other companies you recommended instead also use Micron memory in some of their products.
I just sent in a 4x4GB Crucial Ballistix for RMA, and previously also sent in twice a 4x8GB Low Profile Ballistix. A while ago sent in 2x1GB of Crucial DDR2 RAM. I also had 2 Corsair RMA but never (touch wood) have any issues with G.Skill, although a friend did send in his G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB DDR3. I had to loan him my G.Skill while it was RMA. Crucial SSD do work pretty well for me. I honestly would rank Kingston number 1. Been using different Kingston memory from DDR all the way to 64GB of Kingston Beast/Genesis. Zero issue so far (touch wood again).
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 14:11:39
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I have been Gskill since my P67 board and I was able to get my 2133 to hit 2133 with the setting they told me to use and never looked back. No my X79 Classy ate a set that passed mem test three times and after two over volts and still using stock voltages the board fried the memory, not just one set but two. But Gskill stuck by me. after the second rplacment board I put it in the closet and got a ASUS Rampage IV Fourmula and put the replacement kit in it and that board Overclocked to 4.9 easy and I ran it at 4.2 Daily. The memory was stong and true. As for this great Dark board and I am a believer I put the recommended Gskill kit in and for the very first time I was able to use XMP settings and this stuff is awesome. I was messing around with the voltages and that is my fault and the system wouldn't boot, but after I did the hard reset ran the MEMTEST mem solid and this 2400 is awesome. Gskill has their stuff together!
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 15:17:37
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n8brwn My x-58 sli has the a auto detect option for memory config, I would assume you would have the same option. I would add that Crucial Ballistic is not the best memory . I would have gone with the leading market competitors for memory being1 Corsair2 Kinston3 G-skill With that said by no means am I an expert , but I know outside of the triple channel spectrum my mobo supports, things get dicey.Example : If I install 4 dimms , 3 of those will run on the triple channel spectrum and the 4th will be isolated causing my mem to run at lower speeds.So either 3 dimms or 6 dimms is best . If I had say 4,5, of the 6 dimm slots then it would isolate the others outside the triple spectrum. You can do thatbut its not going to give you the stock speed of the mem , only the memory capacity .
Crucial is a subsiary of Micron. Micron makes the memory and sells it under its Crucial retail name as well as selling its memory chips to other big name memory distributor companies.
Micron Technology is also ranked among the Top 5 Semiconductor producing companies in the world.
I wouldn't knock Crucial since some of the other companies you recommended instead also use Micron memory in some of their products.
I just sent in a 4x4GB Crucial Ballistix for RMA, and previously also sent in twice a 4x8GB Low Profile Ballistix. A while ago sent in 2x1GB of Crucial DDR2 RAM. I also had 2 Corsair RMA but never (touch wood) have any issues with G.Skill, although a friend did send in his G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB DDR3. I had to loan him my G.Skill while it was RMA. Crucial SSD do work pretty well for me. I honestly would rank Kingston number 1. Been using different Kingston memory from DDR all the way to 64GB of Kingston Beast/Genesis. Zero issue so far (touch wood again).
You are missing the point. All of those memory brands you listed use Micron memory in some of their products. None of those brands you listed make their own memory chips. Those brands buy from Samsung, Micron, Hynix, Etc.. Crucial is the only brand mentioned which makes thier own memory chips (Micron). Your favorite G.Skill memory set might use the exact same Micron memory chips as the Crucial kit which failed you. It's mostly luck of the draw and you can't say one company is bad or good based on just a couple experiences.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 15:43:37
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No, I get your point, but like I said in my post, Kingston is my number 1 brand, and I don't think Kingston uses Micron chips. If I know/understand correctly, Kingston uses Hynix memory (or at least the HyperX memory that I use). G.Skill is good too. I set my Ripjaws to XMP Profile 2 of my RIVE and voila, it works at 2133MHz @1.5V! I like to set my memory @1.5V to stay with Intel spec as to not fry the CPU memory controller.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 16:05:29
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Kingston, G.Skill, and Corsair all use Micron memory in their products.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 16:20:59
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 16:23:27
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LFaWolf Proof? Links?
I owned some Kingston HyperX memory sticks with Micron memory chips. It would be better for you to Google for yourself since you have not provided any memory model numbers; I can only speak generally when the discussion remains general.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 16:32:23
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From what I can tell here, I don't see Micron is one of them. I would suppose, given the size of Micron, it would be mentioned -DRAM Suppliers Kingston has developed long-term relationships with the leading DRAM manufacturers. Our DRAM chips are purchased directly from these manufacturers, which include Elpida, Hynix, Infineon, Renesas, Samsung, Toshiba and others. The components are shipped directly from the manufacturer's facility to Kingston's facility minimizing handling and exposure to damage. http://www.kingston.com/us/company/whychoosekingston
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 16:51:44
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LFaWolf From what I can tell here, I don't see Micron is one of them. I would suppose, given the size of Micron, it would be mentioned -DRAM SuppliersKingston has developed long-term relationships with the leading DRAM manufacturers. Our DRAM chips are purchased directly from these manufacturers, which include Elpida, Hynix, Infineon, Renesas, Samsung, Toshiba and others. The components are shipped directly from the manufacturer's facility to Kingston's facility minimizing handling and exposure to damage. http://www.kingston.com/us/company/whychoosekingston
"Including ... others". Since Crucial is owned by Micron and Crucial is a direct retail competitor of Kingston, they probably didn't want to put the name in the list.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 16:59:33
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Again, give the size of Micron, it would/should be mentioned. Elpida would the the Value line, and Hynix/Samsung would be the HyperX/Beast lines. I am glad they don't use Micron chips. Don't get me wrong, I have Micron chips for memory running in other computers. But what I am saying is, with the number of RMA that I had to do, Crucial is a lousy brand, reliability and compatibility-wise. This is a good research for me... sticking with Kingston mostly for now.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 17:00:54
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"Including ... others". Since Crucial is owned by Micron and Crucial is a direct retail competitor of Kingston, they probably didn't want to put the name in the list.
Samsung makes retail memory too, and it is mentioned.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/27 17:16:20
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LFaWolf Again, give the size of Micron, it would/should be mentioned. Elpida would the the Value line, and Hynix/Samsung would be the HyperX/Beast lines. I am glad they don't use Micron chips. Don't get me wrong, I have Micron chips for memory running in other computers. But what I am saying is, with the number of RMA that I had to do, Crucial is a lousy brand, reliability and compatibility-wise. This is a good research for me... sticking with Kingston mostly for now.
Elpida went bankrupt and is now owned by Micron. Like I said, I owned HyperX memory with Micron chips (not Elpida either). This is a losing argument.
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Re: Memory Won’t Run at 1600MHz
2014/04/28 08:53:26
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The OS drive is ok, once I got the memory working it booted right up. With the Samsung SSD it boots up in about 15 seconds. It’s a crap shoot I‘ve previously I RMA’d G.Skill DDR3, Corsair DDR2, and ton of the various brands Dell uses in their workstations. I selected the low profile because the DIMMS slots on the X79 FTW are close to the CPU socket I was concerned with clearance problems. I ordered the low profile before I decided to go with a water cooler.
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