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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/26 21:51:02 (permalink)
Good luck waiting, because the I series is due about 10 more revamps before NVidia gets off their lazy behind and does anything. Too many opportunities to rape the customers. As far as the 750ti, EVGA should have put in a 3 pin or 4 pin fan and splitter, rather than two two pin fans. That was their fault 100%, but it was a cost saving thing. Maybe an extra $5 would have been worth the time as I won't purchase anything from EVGA again until the reviews are out and it functions as advertised.

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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/27 04:13:37 (permalink)
Just to blow off some steam:
 
Dear EVGA,
Please fire the people who made the decision about the fans for these cards.
The reputation of your company is at stake here.
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/27 04:14:33 (permalink)
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Just to blow off some steam:
 
Dear EVGA,
Please fire the people who made the decision about the fans for these cards.
The reputation of your company is at stake here.
 




 
maybe not fire, but definitely learn from this at least.

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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/27 04:21:17 (permalink)
Just to be silly:
 
What would happen if a car manufacturer did not put a muffler on their car?
And would you as a consumer even consider the possibility of that happening?
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/27 04:25:51 (permalink)
Just to make my point even clearer:
 
You buy a brand new Nissan Leaf.
It makes more noise in the morning when you drive off to work than you old Honda Civic. What would you do?
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 11:25:35 (permalink)
Found a quick-and-dirty solution to this problem.
 
I have some Noctua case fans, and they came with a "low noise adapter" that effectively just puts a resistor between the fan and its power source (dropping the voltage and forcing the fan to run slower). I put a Noctua low noise adapter between the GPU fan and the header on the graphics card.
 
Idle is now quiet, temps are good, and the card doesn't get anywhere near hot-enough for the reduction in max-RPM to cause a problem.
 
Basically, this would have been a total non-issue if EVGA had added a single resistor to the fan header or fan wire. Blows my mind that they failed to implement such a simple fix.
post edited by Unknown-Two - 2014/03/28 11:31:16
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 11:47:08 (permalink)
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Found a quick-and-dirty solution to this problem.
 
I have some Noctua case fans, and they came with a "low noise adapter" that effectively just puts a resistor between the fan and its power source (dropping the voltage and forcing the fan to run slower). I put a Noctua low noise adapter between the GPU fan and the header on the graphics card.
 
Idle is now quiet, temps are good, and the card doesn't get anywhere near hot-enough for the reduction in max-RPM to cause a problem.
 
Basically, this would have been a total non-issue if EVGA had added a single resistor to the fan header or fan wire. Blows my mind that they failed to implement such a simple fix.


Interesting, would it work by just getting a resistor and applying it?
I don't know how these things work, but my brother is an electrician so maybe he could help me in that case.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 11:49:11 (permalink)
jawkerInteresting, would it work by just getting a resistor and applying it?
I don't know how these things work, but my brother is an electrician so maybe he could help me in that case.


Yeah, just has to be the correct value resistor. All it needs to do (worst-case) is drop 12v to ~7v.
 
I only used the Noctua adapter because I already had it on hand. Literally just plugged it in and the problem was solved.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 12:01:22 (permalink)
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jawkerInteresting, would it work by just getting a resistor and applying it?
I don't know how these things work, but my brother is an electrician so maybe he could help me in that case.


Yeah, just has to be the correct value resistor. All it needs to do (worst-case) is drop 12v to ~7v.
 
I only used the Noctua adapter because I already had it on hand. Literally just plugged it in and the problem was solved.


Nice! I'll talk to my brother and see if he can get one for me.
How do I know what the correct ohm would be? I guess measure current and stuff with a multimeter.
Anyways, thanks for the tip!
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 12:14:20 (permalink)
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Nice! I'll talk to my brother and see if he can get one for me.
How do I know what the correct ohm would be? I guess measure current and stuff with a multimeter.
Anyways, thanks for the tip!


Digikey has a handy-dandy resistor value calculator here: http:/ /www.digikey.com/us/en/mkt/calculators/4-band-resistors.html
 
punch-in the colors of the bands on the resistor and it'll tell you what value it is.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 12:33:16 (permalink)
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Nice! I'll talk to my brother and see if he can get one for me.
How do I know what the correct ohm would be? I guess measure current and stuff with a multimeter.
Anyways, thanks for the tip!


Digikey has a handy-dandy resistor value calculator here: http:/ /www.digikey.com/us/en/mkt/calculators/4-band-resistors.html
 
punch-in the colors of the bands on the resistor and it'll tell you what value it is.



Great, thanks! I hope this will work :)
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 15:03:49 (permalink)
Hi nice to hear that some found a soulution for this problem! My qeustion is how you conect that low noise adapter? I search the hole www and not found any solution with native 2 pin support? Can you make some pictures and show us?
Ty
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 15:18:41 (permalink)
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Hi nice to hear that some found a soulution for this problem! My qeustion is how you conect that low noise adapter? I search the hole www and not found any solution with native 2 pin support? Can you make some pictures and show us?
Ty


Simplest method? Remove the white plastic connector-housing from the graphics card's fan header. This will leave two bare pins that the low noise adapter can be slipped onto.
Make sure you connect it the right way around. Ignore the 3rd (yellow) wire, it carries RPM-sense, which the GTX 750 Ti doesn't support. Just match up where the black and red wires connect.
 
The plastic housing is friction-fit over the pins. You can easily slide it off using some pliers. Once it's off, any normal 3-pin fan can be connected to the header.
post edited by Unknown-Two - 2014/03/28 15:28:19
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 16:01:32 (permalink)
Ty for the fast reply! Can you tell wich adapter you exactly have? Or you get by a fan included? And a other question is it a 3 or 4 pin low noise adapter?
post edited by Killerrox - 2014/03/28 17:02:02
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/28 18:16:18 (permalink)
the timestamp on the bios was January so they were aware of the problem before release. what kind of trash is this. 
 
seriously i know that the engineers probably have moved on to 800 series but come on.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/30 11:08:24 (permalink)
I still think EVGA should ship out a simple fan adapter with a resistor on it for everyone who's registered one of these with their EVGA account.
 
Solves the problem, top-to-bottom. The entire RPM range of the fan is reduced, no mucking around with BIOS updates that don't work, no risk of bricking a single card with a bad flash, etc.
post edited by Unknown-Two - 2014/03/30 11:14:08
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/30 16:59:53 (permalink)
Yeah this sound for me like the best solution for all
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/03/31 06:10:27 (permalink)
Upgraded from a GTX 650 ti 2GB SSC with incurable coil whine to this......updated the BIOS and now the fan is only slightly quieter but makes an obnoxious high pitch grinding noise.  Stupid me even paid $220 to get this card in China.
Cool.
 
I hate to whine about stuff, but whenever I buy higher end EVGA stuff, I never have problems, but the cheaper stuff always seems to have serious issues - and it either never gets fixed or can't be fixed.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/01 20:16:59 (permalink)
Checking in to see if it's worth considering buying again..
nope, all this time no real response from EVGA, and still only a bios update that drops noise by 1db (lol) 

Glad some found joy with that plug in resistor, anywhere you can buy just that to clip in without any modification?
 
:(
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/02 15:54:10 (permalink)
I updated the firmware as mentioned, is this the latest version?
gpuz.techpowerup.com/14/04/02/btv.png
 
 
Also after the updates, the fans turn off at 30degc. and only kick in when it gets to 50+ degc, then bring the temp down to 28 and then shut off again. Is this normal behavior?
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/03 00:15:18 (permalink)
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I updated the firmware as mentioned, is this the latest version?
gpuz.techpowerup.com/14/04/02/btv.png
 
 
Also after the updates, the fans turn off at 30degc. and only kick in when it gets to 50+ degc, then bring the temp down to 28 and then shut off again. Is this normal behavior?




thats the updated bios but that is not normal and i doubt its doing that. its probably your cpu or psu fans.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/03 03:25:57 (permalink)
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thats the updated bios but that is not normal and i doubt its doing that. its probably your cpu or psu fans.




It is doing that. I have the case open and see the fans stopped. And only when I'm gaming or running a benchmark do they start ( when it goes above 50c)
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/03 14:39:06 (permalink)
Could someone check what praveenkrs writes? Easy to make! Download the bios here agin and make a new flash. I would do that even but I've already installed a resistor and I would not be taken apart again my whole pc just to check that.
If this gets confirmed they make a quiet Update of the Bios!
Greets
post edited by Killerrox - 2014/04/03 14:48:04
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/05 02:26:31 (permalink)
I also didn't hear a difference before and after BIOS update.
But i didn't find it loud in first place.
Is this a high frequenzy noise that adult people don't hear anyway?
 
PCPER claims a difference (and gives EVGA a gold award btw)
 
pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-Roundup-EVGA-Galaxy-and-PNY-Overclocked
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/05 08:21:25 (permalink)
When I received this card 3 weeks ago it came with

BIOS: 82.07.25.00.50
The update that dropped the noise by 1db (as tested by Hexus, but it really did only just take the edge off the high pitch for me) was
BIOS: is 82.07.25.00.53

So it sounds like either there's something going on with newer drivers, or there's actually a weird fault with your card. If it's consistently doing that, and it doesn't go on/off all that often then maybe it is a driver thing, and that would be good. But I'd hope to get confirmation.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/06 03:19:09 (permalink)
update, it's been 2 days and it behaves the same. When I start my pc, the fans (both) start and then turn off while windows boots. They stay off until I start a game and it gets to 50+. Then only 1 fan turns on ( the other intermittently attempts to start but doesn't turn), brings the temp to around 35c while playing. After I quit, the fan idles at 28 and the fans shutoff. So one of the fan only spins at bootup. I'm trying to stress the card to reach high temps to kick start both fans. Probably need to overclock.
Thing to be noted is that before the bios update both the fans were on at all times with 27c idle temps.
My room is 20c.  
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/06 05:58:26 (permalink)
Used EVGA precision and manually set the fan speed. 
42-49% speed only 1 fan spins.
50-100% both fans spin. 
Either I got a fixed card or got lucky. It seems to be working perfectly, can't hear the GPU at all :)
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/06 09:05:50 (permalink)
i tried to manually set the fan speed on precision and had no luck.
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/07 19:44:21 (permalink)
Has some tryed out the new beta driver and check if its anthing changing on that noise problem? I have installt but i cant test i have an restior installed
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Re: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW BIOS Update (Reduced Fan Noise) 2014/04/09 07:36:59 (permalink)
it seems like evga doesn't give a f.
 
my idea for the sc version:
 
there are 2mm holes in a 72mm square

 
i will make a 3d printer adapter like this:

and install an 100mm fan.
 
100mm will fit exactly with the pcie slot.
and it will still remain an 2 slot card
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