I think the rumors currently have it targeted for Q3 or Q4 end of the year more or less.

I heard something along Q3ish for cards like the 880.
 
but then again depends on AMD too. 
 
Lets not forget that nvidia is waiting for the 20nm production thing to be working properly before making a proper maxwell.

Ntrain96
Isnt Maxwell just Keplar refined basically? Something tells me that the GK110 gpu is going to be tops in raw performance for a bit. From my understanding Maxwell is geared more towards energy efficiency etc........not so much a jump in performance.

Is not energy efficiency a jump in performance? Doing the same on much lower wattage is an impressive change. Imagine the performance at the higher wattages.

Yeah but the question is what will a full Maxwell model be? Will it be a card that consumes 250 watts like the 780 series, or will be running at a much lower wattage? If its running at lower wattage, overall performance might be somewhat similar to whats out now or with modest performance increase bumps.

haris525
750 Ti, and 750 is not Maxwell. No matter how much they advertise it. In Nvidia's own words "Maxwell is based on 20 nm" and has the unique CPU GPU relationship. The 750 - Ti does not meet any of those requirements. They are just milking a refined Kepler card.

Oh wow another one of these people.
 

 
Look at this. 
 
kepler VS the maxwell chip inside the 750/Ti. 
 
It is not just a rehashed kepler with a new name. they completely changed how the chip works. which warrants it a new chip. hence the first generation of maxwell. Yes there is no fancy ARM processor build onto it yet. because they are waiting for the 20nm process AND the fact that they probably want to keep it for the higher up cards.
 
This is maxwell. you can whine and complain as much as you want. but it is a different chip with a different architecture and that is a fact. 
 
And it is doing pretty well so far compared to kepler.
 
You might as well complain that anything underneath a titan is not true kepler because of the disabled double precision.
 

Ntrain96
Yeah but the question is what will a full Maxwell model be? Will it be a card that consumes 250 watts like the 780 series, or will be running at a much lower wattage? If its running at lower wattage, overall performance might be somewhat similar to whats out now or with modest performance increase bumps.

I expect there to be 200-250 watt cards. around the same as now maybe abit lower but it should have quite the perfomance gain. energy efficiency doesn't mean 100 watt cards only. It means that they can get more power out of the cores with the same power. 
 
now if they kept on talking about energy saving model. then yes it would have the sameish power but for a lower wattage. I think they are focusing more on around the same wattage but much more power. 

darklyspectre

haris525
750 Ti, and 750 is not Maxwell. No matter how much they advertise it. In Nvidia's own words "Maxwell is based on 20 nm" and has the unique CPU GPU relationship. The 750 - Ti does not meet any of those requirements. They are just milking a refined Kepler card.

Oh wow another one of these people.
 

 
Look at this. 
 
kepler VS the maxwell chip inside the 750/Ti. 
 
It is not just a rehashed kepler with a new name. they completely changed how the chip works. which warrants it a new chip. hence the first generation of maxwell. Yes there is no fancy ARM processor build onto it yet. because they are waiting for the 20nm process AND the fact that they probably want to keep it for the higher up cards.
 
This is maxwell. you can whine and complain as much as you want. but it is a different chip with a different architecture and that is a fact. 
 
And it is doing pretty well so far compared to kepler.
 
You might as well complain that anything underneath a titan is not true kepler because of the disabled double precision.
 

Completely agreed. This is true Maxwell architecture just using the 28nm fabrication process. Nvidia has made it clear that they are just showing off what the architecture can do using the current generation fab process. I predict a true monetizing strategy for Nvidia would be to have the 880 using a 20nm chip and the next Titan coming with that Denver ARM CPU along with the same chip as the 880. Rinse and repeat current gen (reduced cores at 880 launch, come out with full unlocked 6 months later as 880 Ti)

Ntrain96
Yeah but the question is what will a full Maxwell model be? Will it be a card that consumes 250 watts like the 780 series, or will be running at a much lower wattage?

The last few first tier GPUs put in high-end cards have settled on a range close to 250W:
 
90nm G80 in 8800GTX was 181W
65nm G92 in 9800GTX was 140W
65nm 240-CUDA G200 in GTX280 was 236W
55nm G200b in GTX285 was 185W
40m GF100 in GTX480 was 250W
40m GF110 in GTX580 was 244W
28nm GK110 in GTX780/780Ti/Titan was 250W
 
In the same reign, most second tier GPUs (not always applied to midrange cards) seemed to have settled with certain wattage ranges as well:
 
65nm G92 in 8800GT was 105W
65nm 192-CUDA G200 in GTX260 was 182W
55nm G200b in GTX260 was 160W
40m GF104 in GTX465 was 170W
40m GF114 in GTX460 was 160W
28nm GK104 in GTX670 was 170W
28nm GK104 in GTX680 was 195W
 
It is reasonable to assume that a Maxwell high-end GPU applied to a high-end card wouldn't be more than 250W while the midrange product wouldn't be more than 200W, but whether these products show up at all depends on what AMD will try.  If they aren't able, i.e. Tahiti, nVidia will again brand a midrange GPU as a high-end card (like GTX680) and benefit from a lower wattage normally suited for midrange cards.  Nothing spectacular or odd or magic, just "doing what works" in the business world.
 
When also depends on AMD, right now nVidia has refreshed the top two levels (780 Ti and Titan Black) and AMD isn't threatening anything yet.  Most rumors suggest both companies are waiting for their 20nm yields to improve before gambling on a large high-end die.  But historically, the first products of shrunk dies haven't been high-end and usually trail months apart, so high-end Maxwell is certain much farther off than we'd like.  
 
There is no business reason or technical reasoning in an early introduction.
 
[source for power specs: GeForce.com]

Seing as UHD/4K resolution monitors at affordable prices are just around the corner I would expect that much more powerful graphic cards are needed. So bugger the lower total wattage and pump it all into more performance please....

Man it would be crazy if nvidia released maxwell version of the 790, this 790 would be the most epic dual gpu ever. if it's anything like this gtx 750 ti ftw,
a huge overclocker on air (1400+mhz) and super cool (52c). that would be a nice surprise.

If you are trying to decide between waiting or getting a 780 Ti/Titan Black, get one of the current cards instead of waiting 9 months.

Waiting for the 980 :)
My Ti is just a beast of a card, I recommended it for all. I can only imagine the black Ti 

One architecture covers two series of cards in the famous tick/tock release scheme. 680 and 780 was keppler, 880 and 980 will be maxwell. At least thats the likelihood.

ericc191
If you are trying to decide between waiting or getting a 780 Ti/Titan Black, get one of the current cards instead of waiting 9 months.

Not the 780 Ti, the 780.  Sure I'd like the 780 Ti, but it's just too expensive.  Obviously Maxwell will be faster but I wonder by how much.

Ginwho

asmodyus
I think the rumors currently have it targeted for Q3 or Q4 end of the year more or less.

Ok, thanks!  That really sucks that it's going to take that long, and now Nvidia looks like they're switching the way they do things.  It's not fair that us desktop users are at the bottom now.  I understand that mobile devices are selling the most, but it's sort of screwing us.  I say that because I won't have that money during that time.  I'll only have it for tax time and can only wait 2 to 3 months at most or else my wife WILL spend it, so I'll have to get the 780 I imagine.

780 is a great GPU.  You won't be disappointed. 

Though it is worth noting that AMD is selling better than Nvidia at the moment.
 
But for the wrong reasons
 
And with Nvidia gimping hardware with the drivers I'm seeing gaming performance as acceptable across the brands and thus looking at folding performance to help me decide what to buy.
 
As it stands I've had to upgrade my drivers to play my games and as such my 680 is scoring less than 50% ppd of what it is capable of, and that's the kind of treatment that has me not ruling out AMD when I decide to upgrade.
 
To be honest I'll likely stick with Nvidia but only because of EVGA (and my collection of EVGA bucks ;) of which I am very grateful to EVGA for enabling me to earn)
I am a flip flopper though and try to get the best bang for buck for the life of the card and always weigh up my options before making the leap.