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At this time, I do not have a way to test out the temperatures, as my case is too small to install everything. The new case will be here soon, hopefully. Second note, installing the EVGA back-plate does work, but the M3x6 screws that secure the back-plate to the waterblock on grab in for about a turn and a quarter. The head of the screw is also larger than the screw hole for the back-plate, so the head of the screw will not be flush. Also, if you can only find silver screws, an issue I have, they will not blend in at all. Lastly, out of the 11 screw holes on the EVGA back-plate, only 5 are utilized with the EKWB waterblock. It does feel very secure either way. It only took me about 1/2 an hour to install everything, as I have never done this before. I know a lot of suggestions come out for the way to apply the thermal paste, but I followed EK's method of the star pattern, as I seriously followed the instructions directly. Attaching a few pictures. I found a lot of thermal paste under the ACX cooler.. kind of Globbed on there like most others are reporting.       
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 07:29:45
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Interesting :) So what screws did u have to use to get it mounted together? Did u just use those who came with EK Waterblock?
Please post some more pictures :)
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 07:31:36
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No, they are M3x6 screws that you can order from Lowe's or anywhere like that. I am going to see if I can find some with either a slightly smaller head, or ever so slightly longer, just so it can grab a little more threading.
EK does supply plastic washers, that are meant to help prevent scratching the PCB. If the are between the backplate and the PCB, the screws won't reach the waterblock. That is why I am hoping to find slightly longer screws.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 07:48:54
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Oh okay, I live in Norway so I gotta see if I can find someone who have those :) How many do I need in total?
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 07:55:20
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5 per card total. If you can order from Amazon, they are all over it. I am going to try a different screw head, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037YC982/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I want to see if those can dig in a little deeper. The EK Block takes 10 total screws. 5 do not attach to the backplate at all, and they are installed prior to installing backplate. The other 5 (listed above) are the ones you need to secure the backplate to the block :-)
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 08:01:25
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Awesome, thanks for the help :)
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 08:03:16
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I will be updating this, if I remember, once the new screws arrive. I am hoping people with this question will look here. I am tempted to order the EK backplate, just because it has the matching 5 screw holes with a bunch of empty one left over.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 21:23:29
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I put the EVGA backplate on before I got the EK waterblocks, and longer screws were provided with the backplate. Are you saying those are not long enough once I put the EK waterblock on?
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 22:31:09
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No, they are long enough, but they are too thin. They are around an M2 size.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 22:57:10
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Between the two, the EVGA backplate looks MUCH nicer in my opinion. Since the backplate is more for aesthetics anyway (I seriously doubt either provides any real cooling advantages over the other, I plan on sticking with EVGA's backplate. Here are mine:  Let us know how the Hex M3X6 screws work out. The fact that the heads are tapered underneath (rather than pan heads) should help them dig a bit deeper and grab a bit more of the EK block's threads.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/16 23:03:10
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I definitely love the aesthetic of the EVGA backplate, and will update as soon as they get here.
The only reason I like the idea of the EK plate is that it doesn't have excess holes that aren't used. I may see if I can find a few of the plastic caps that block them, just to hide them, but I have no idea where to get them yet. Will keep looking.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/17 00:03:37
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I am heading back to my room, I will get pictures of the three current screws that I have. That would be stock screws, the backplate supplied screws and the necessary screws to install the backplate with the Waterblock.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/17 05:42:54
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Far left, M3x6 that I bought. Mid Left the one from EK. Mid right, EVGA Backplate screw. Far right, EVGA Stock Screw. Any more questions, left me know. Sorry for the crappy picture, but I am tired and it is late.  P.S. New Pictures up top!
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/17 19:33:58
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/02/17 19:35:07
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/03/05 01:43:45
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*UPDATE* just received the M3x6 screws the we're ordered. They have a counter sunk style head... They are a definite no go. Their total length isn't long enough to even reach the threading on the waterblock.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/03/06 11:05:13
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Following this thread...will be going through this same install in couple weeks.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/03/06 19:22:46
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FYI, I had the same issue with not being able to find the M3x6 screws in black from Lowes, so I tried Home Depot, and they had a MUCH bigger assortment, and found everything I needed. I actually ended up using the nylon washers between the screws and the backplate, not between the backplate and the pcb. Not sure which way is better. Screw length seemed a bit short, but worked just fine.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/05 11:07:05
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hey guys a bit late on the thread but just wondering if the M3x6 are the type we need ??
so basically M3x6 (button head) screws right? lol so confused now lol
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/05 11:40:18
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hey guys firstly i want to say thanks to the OP for opening up this discussion and help, secondly i did some digging found another thread on same topic and found out that the "perfect screw" is the M3x8 :P i sourced this information from and again thanx to both Supercharged_Z06and Scarlet-Tech :) thanx guys many thnx from Melbourne :) http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2129450
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/05 13:22:54
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hey guys a bit late on the thread but just wondering if the M3x6 are the type we need ??
so basically M3x6 (button head) screws right? lol so confused now lol
Yes that's the right size I got mine from the local hardware store.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/05 15:48:59
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The M3x6 without a washer and a M3x8 with a thin washer would be perfect. :-) I tried the M3x8 without, and it seemed just slightly loose. Hope that helps.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/05 20:14:57
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First off, props to Scarlet-Tech for starting this thread! His post and the info he provided was my first guide and inspiration to finding a solution that would work for me. The M3X8 Flat Head Socket Cap Steel Screws (Item M10402 from Mr. Metric) that I posted here http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2129450 work perfectly for mounting the EVGA backplate to the card, screwed into the attached EK waterblock - they are not loose at all. (They may not work quite as well with the EK backplate though.) For my application, I think the reason they work so well is due to the fact that the socket caps on these screws are ever so slightly larger then the mounting hole openings on the EVGA backplate itself. Note that these screws do not mount perfectly flush with the surface of the EVGA backplate though - they stick up about a millimeter... but to me they fit quite nicely. (Way better then some of the non-flat socket cap screws I've tried, which will jut way above the backplate. Judge for yourself in the pics that I posted in the link above. The forth pic I provided shows this quite nicely.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/05 22:56:54
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Supercharged_Z06
First off, props to Scarlet-Tech for starting this thread! His post and the info he provided was my first guide and inspiration to finding a solution that would work for me. The M3X8 Flat Head Socket Cap Steel Screws (Item M10402 from Mr. Metric) that I posted here http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2129450 work perfectly for mounting the EVGA backplate to the card, screwed into the attached EK waterblock - they are not loose at all. (They may not work quite as well with the EK backplate though.) For my application, I think the reason they work so well is due to the fact that the socket caps on these screws are ever so slightly larger then the mounting hole openings on the EVGA backplate itself. Note that these screws do not mount perfectly flush with the surface of the EVGA backplate though - they stick up about a millimeter... but to me they fit quite nicely. (Way better then some of the non-flat socket cap screws I've tried, which will jut way above the backplate. Judge for yourself in the pics that I posted in the link above. The forth pic I provided shows this quite nicely.
I may see if I can find some flat head M3x8 that will sit completely flush, and plastic caps for the excess openings. Your cards looks good :-) i still love my Classies! They are tanks and have proven to be worth every penny I didn't have when I bought them :-D
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/06 20:09:13
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a lot of valuable info here guys :) much appreciated to those who had input and those who asked the question :)
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/06 20:29:08
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Is it OK to install M3x6mm without washer?
And thermal pads used on pictures are 1mm thick?
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/06 20:35:11
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i think they mean m3x6 without and m3x8 with washer :)
""The M3x6 without a washer and a M3x8 with a thin washer would be perfect. :-) I tried the M3x8 without, and it seemed just slightly loose. Hope that helps.""
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/06 20:40:04
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Anyway is better without washers if manufacturer didn't plan washers on that place.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/06 20:59:46
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Scarlet-Tech
Far left, M3x6 that I bought. Mid Left the one from EK. Mid right, EVGA Backplate screw. Far right, EVGA Stock Screw.
Any more questions, left me know. Sorry for the crappy picture, but I am tired and it is late.
P.S. New Pictures up top!
I do think that the EVGA Stock Screws can be (Much) better then what they now use.
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Re: 780 TI Classy EKWB and EVGA Backplate.
2014/06/07 07:02:00
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Is it OK to install M3x6mm without washer?
And thermal pads used on pictures are 1mm thick?
Thermal Pads on the Memory is 1/2mm thick. Thermal Pads on the VRM is 1 thick. Link to EKWB install instructions for most accurate details: [Click Here] :-D
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