RushXTC

JustinHEMI
Congratulations on your new car.
 
You don't have to justify it to anyone.
 
Enjoy.
 
Justin

Thank you, Justin! I'm not sure why I kept replying to all the negative feedback, I was just excited that I bought a new car, But guess not everyone wants to see other people happy. Really appreciate it!
 

AlphaNerd
Can I see a few side shots of the car ?  Please.

 

 

 

Very nice.......
 
Enjoy and thank you.

Holo
 
Yeah a turbo 4 with 274 horse power and a curb weight of 3100 pounds yet a 15 second quarter mile means the car has no performance due to gearing for highway mileage. Nothing wrong with that but performance is lacking. Hence why I pointed the ZF transmissions in my last post as those things shift as fast as a dual clutch as far as a spirited driver goes(to a professional they'd still be slow.)
 
I don't doubt the car is quality but its not 41k quality. For 41k i have much better choices than an Optima, plain and simple. I am not bashing the OP, I genuinely couldn't care less about what he bought - it's his money he is spending. I am simply stating for that money, I feel there is much better value out there both from a quality, performance and luxury side of things.
 
You would also be a fool to ignore the badge on the car as the badge tells a story. The Z has heritage all over the world, the M badge and the 3 series are legendary accross the world. The G(subsequentely a skyline in japan, australia and some parts of Europe) carry a high lineage with them. Heck Mercedes has been around for over 100 years, and you'd be a fool to ignore that heritage. 
 
Heck Honda, and Toyota have been around for a while as well and have proven quality and reliability time and time again. Lexus carries a badge that is a testimatent to luxury and comfort.
 
What does Kia stand for? What does the brand stand for? Where to their roots come from? Exactly, they don't have any, they aren't know in Motorsport at all.

the Turbo model has a curb weight of almost 3400lbs.
 
Also, value is pretty subjective. Value to you might be the "prestige" of a badge with a stripped out interior, while to others it's a fully loaded top of the line model car for the same price. Value to me is the second option, not the first.
 
And please, the badge is nothing but an item used to pull buyers through the "lifestyle" approach to marketing. You buy your cars because you think they're superior to "lowly" Korean and American brands, which is a bunch of marketing BS perpetuated by ignorance and social status.
 
As for your "heritage" badges, the last Z (the 350Z) flew off the track every time someone tried to track it in stock form because of its OTS commuter brakes, the 300ZX was an unreliable pig, and all the previous Z's before that, aside from looking nice, were underpowered and not very reliable themselves. The M and 3 series, the so-called "driving machines", have gotten more bloated over the past several decades in trying to woo the young white collar demographic who traditionally bought them yet who increasingly don't care at all about actually driving them and only buy them for social status, your G35 is nothing but Infiniti's badge engineering of the 350Z, the G37 another badge engineered 370Z. Some heritage.
 
And Kia has only been building cars since 1986. 28 years for a major car company is not exactly a lot of time for them to get a massive foothold in every corner of the market, especially when it comes to sponsorship. Given that, they've come a LONG ways with their current models in such a short amount of time if you consider what they looked like a decade ago.
 
Lastly, Fbmbirds agreeing with you should make you pretty weary of your own conclusions.

srtie4k

Holo
 
Yeah a turbo 4 with 274 horse power and a curb weight of 3100 pounds yet a 15 second quarter mile means the car has no performance due to gearing for highway mileage. Nothing wrong with that but performance is lacking. Hence why I pointed the ZF transmissions in my last post as those things shift as fast as a dual clutch as far as a spirited driver goes(to a professional they'd still be slow.)
 
I don't doubt the car is quality but its not 41k quality. For 41k i have much better choices than an Optima, plain and simple. I am not bashing the OP, I genuinely couldn't care less about what he bought - it's his money he is spending. I am simply stating for that money, I feel there is much better value out there both from a quality, performance and luxury side of things.
 
You would also be a fool to ignore the badge on the car as the badge tells a story. The Z has heritage all over the world, the M badge and the 3 series are legendary accross the world. The G(subsequentely a skyline in japan, australia and some parts of Europe) carry a high lineage with them. Heck Mercedes has been around for over 100 years, and you'd be a fool to ignore that heritage. 
 
Heck Honda, and Toyota have been around for a while as well and have proven quality and reliability time and time again. Lexus carries a badge that is a testimatent to luxury and comfort.
 
What does Kia stand for? What does the brand stand for? Where to their roots come from? Exactly, they don't have any, they aren't know in Motorsport at all.

the Turbo model has a curb weight of almost 3400lbs.
 
Also, value is pretty subjective. Value to you might be the "prestige" of a badge with a stripped out interior, while to others it's a fully loaded top of the line model car for the same price. Value to me is the second option, not the first.
 
And please, the badge is nothing but an item used to pull buyers through the "lifestyle" approach to marketing. You buy your cars because you think they're superior to "lowly" Korean and American brands, which is a bunch of marketing BS perpetuated by ignorance and social status.
 
As for your "heritage" badges, the last Z (the 350Z) flew off the track every time someone tried to track it in stock form because of its OTS commuter brakes, the 300ZX was an unreliable pig, and all the previous Z's before that, aside from looking nice, were underpowered and not very reliable themselves. The M and 3 series, the so-called "driving machines", have gotten more bloated over the past several decades in trying to woo the young white collar demographic who traditionally bought them yet who increasingly don't care at all about actually driving them and only buy them for social status, your G35 is nothing but Infiniti's badge engineering of the 350Z, the G37 another badge engineered 370Z. Some heritage.
 
And Kia has only been building cars since 1986. 28 years for a major car company is not exactly a lot of time for them to get a massive foothold in every corner of the market, especially when it comes to sponsorship. Given that, they've come a LONG ways with their current models in such a short amount of time if you consider what they looked like a decade ago.
 
Lastly, Fbmbirds agreeing with you should make you pretty weary of your own conclusions.

No, I'd gladly own an american car, in fact I'd prefer several right now if given the choice. I would love a Corvette(z06, base c7, or ZR1,) I'd love an CTS V, an CTS V-sport,  etc. Note how every car I've mentioned is geared towards performance while luxury takes a backseat. The G, as correct as you are in the Z badge engineering, carries the skyline name in many places. Personally its just a G to ME.
Just understand that a badge is more than marketing, and people do treat you based on what you drive, from the party you pull up to, to the drive through you go to, to the coworker you go to lunch to. 41k is still a statement of how you are, and at 41k I'd enjoy a much better car. Heck thats used CTS V(low miles might I add), BMW M money, or even a well optioned Z06 Vette, or as the OP wanted a nice SRT8 challanger.
FYI the V, the M and the vette all get good gas mileage for what they are. Most of them get 20+ which to me is more than acceptable.

clo007
It is still funny that the Kia Optima is basically a Hyundai Sonata, yet the Hyundai is $10,000 less than the Optima. Yes, that interior seats look 'cool', but $10,000 cool?
Personally, I would have got a fully loaded Sonata... same motor, same transmission, same chassis, same warranty, little different style BUT a big chunk of money cheaper. BTW, I currently drive a 2007 Hyundai Sonata V6. With that said, I think I may go pick up a 2014 Audi S4 lease for $500/month this weekend(which is a $52,000 car---$10,000 more than the Kia Optima). AWD with a supercharged motor baby!!!

Again with the sensibility. Very good post 

Holo
 
No, I'd gladly own an american car, in fact I'd prefer several right now if given the choice. I would love a Corvette(z06, base c7, or ZR1,) I'd love an CTS V, an CTS V-sport,  etc. Note how every car I've mentioned is geared towards performance while luxury takes a backseat. The G, as correct as you are in the Z badge engineering, carries the skyline name in many places. Personally its just a G to ME.
Just understand that a badge is more than marketing, and people do treat you based on what you drive, from the party you pull up to, to the drive through you go to, to the coworker you go to lunch to. 41k is still a statement of how you are, and at 41k I'd enjoy a much better car. Heck thats used CTS V(low miles might I add), BMW M money, or even a well optioned Z06 Vette, or as the OP wanted a nice SRT8 challanger.
FYI the V, the M and the vette all get good gas mileage for what they are. Most of them get 20+ which to me is more than acceptable.

If you want to compare your G35 to what everybody knows as a real Skyline (R32-R34), keep dreaming. The closest thing Nissan offers to those old cars is the GT-R. The G35/350Z are both watered down sports coupes that retained none of what makes the more famous Skylines extremely sought after.
 
Next, people who treat others based on what they drive are extremely shallow and materialistic, and not people I'd like to rub shoulders with. Maybe you like being that way, but I don't, and I can't stand people that think what you own defines you as a person, as if your choice of car makes you a better person. That's a big steaming load of crap and a bane on society.
 
Finally, my Jeep Wrangler gets 22MPG highway, but it sucks on combined, much like the 3 cars you listed. And the 09-13 CTS-V, the one I assume you're speaking of, doesn't get anywhere near 20MPG. Best I've seen is 17MPG, worst is around 9MPG with your foot to the floor. And really, if you had 500HP on tap from any one of those cars, would you baby it back and forth to work everyday? I doubt it.

I also love that people forget to factor in the insurance that probably is another 200-400 a month.

Fbmbirds
That is why I own a E30 M and a E36 M. Plus 2 E36 325is for daily drivers. All 4 cars way way under 40k

Love the E36. I have been looking for a project car for a couple of months.

srtie4k
 
If you want to compare your G35 to what everybody knows as a real Skyline (R32-R34), keep dreaming. The closest thing Nissan offers to those old cars is the GT-R. The G35/350Z are both watered down sports coupes that retained none of what makes the more famous Skylines extremely sought after.
 
Next, people who treat others based on what they drive are extremely shallow and materialistic, and not people I'd like to rub shoulders with. Maybe you like being that way, but I don't, and I can't stand people that think what you own defines you as a person, as if your choice of car makes you a better person. That's a big steaming load of crap and a bane on society.
 
Finally, my Jeep Wrangler gets 22MPG highway, but it sucks on combined, much like the 3 cars you listed. And the 09-13 CTS-V, the one I assume you're speaking of, doesn't get anywhere near 20MPG. Best I've seen is 17MPG, worst is around 9MPG with your foot to the floor. And really, if you had 500HP on tap from any one of those cars, would you baby it back and forth to work everyday? I doubt it.

I know me and you definitely had are shares of disagreements but I 100% agree with you on what you said here. It truly is all about materialism. Most people "like" certain cars because society either likes it so in which this causes that person to "like" it also to fit in with the materialistic crowd. Ya it sure does bothers the crap out of me as well on how people judge you by what kind of person you are based on your vehicle or any of your other materialistic possessions you own. I like to judge people based on their knowledge(doesn't have to be actual certificate 'paper" degrees of education) and by their willingness to learn knowledge(meaning being open minded). I'll leave the rest of the judging with the Almighty.  Its sad to see people destroying themselves over materialistic items(mainly cars, houses, clothes, and electronics) items by going  even deep and deeper in to debt by buying garbage they dont need, with money they dont have using a credit card, to impress people that they dont even know or dont even like.

blacksapphire08

Fbmbirds
I also love that people forget to factor in the insurance that probably is another 200-400 a month.

He must be really young, have a poor driving record, and/or live in a bad area for it to be that high. When I bought my current car it was about $130 a month (price was ~$27,500).

200-400 isn't out of the ball park if rush's record is anything close to his ticket stories. and in the words turbo, brand new, with it being a lease full tort  and yeah its going to be high.

wrinvert

blacksapphire08

Fbmbirds
I also love that people forget to factor in the insurance that probably is another 200-400 a month.

He must be really young, have a poor driving record, and/or live in a bad area for it to be that high. When I bought my current car it was about $130 a month (price was ~$27,500).

200-400 isn't out of the ball park if rush's record is anything close to his ticket stories. and in the words turbo, brand new, with it being a lease full tort  and yeah its going to be high.

Lol, True story... I have 3 Speeding tickets, 1 which I fought... So 2 speeding tickets, Just 1 away from losing my license. That's with a 210 HP car, I'm trying to drive this one on ECO, Because when I let go of the gas, It drops the speed pretty fast. If it's on sport, It goes past the speed limit pretty fast and stays there. >_<
 
We'll see how much insurance will be, I'm going to pay it for the whole year to get it at a discount, But I'm going to shop around first.

srtie4k

Holo
 
No, I'd gladly own an american car, in fact I'd prefer several right now if given the choice. I would love a Corvette(z06, base c7, or ZR1,) I'd love an CTS V, an CTS V-sport,  etc. Note how every car I've mentioned is geared towards performance while luxury takes a backseat. The G, as correct as you are in the Z badge engineering, carries the skyline name in many places. Personally its just a G to ME.
Just understand that a badge is more than marketing, and people do treat you based on what you drive, from the party you pull up to, to the drive through you go to, to the coworker you go to lunch to. 41k is still a statement of how you are, and at 41k I'd enjoy a much better car. Heck thats used CTS V(low miles might I add), BMW M money, or even a well optioned Z06 Vette, or as the OP wanted a nice SRT8 challanger.
FYI the V, the M and the vette all get good gas mileage for what they are. Most of them get 20+ which to me is more than acceptable.

If you want to compare your G35 to what everybody knows as a real Skyline (R32-R34), keep dreaming. The closest thing Nissan offers to those old cars is the GT-R. The G35/350Z are both watered down sports coupes that retained none of what makes the more famous Skylines extremely sought after.
 
Next, people who treat others based on what they drive are extremely shallow and materialistic, and not people I'd like to rub shoulders with. Maybe you like being that way, but I don't, and I can't stand people that think what you own defines you as a person, as if your choice of car makes you a better person. That's a big steaming load of crap and a bane on society.
 
Finally, my Jeep Wrangler gets 22MPG highway, but it sucks on combined, much like the 3 cars you listed. And the 09-13 CTS-V, the one I assume you're speaking of, doesn't get anywhere near 20MPG. Best I've seen is 17MPG, worst is around 9MPG with your foot to the floor. And really, if you had 500HP on tap from any one of those cars, would you baby it back and forth to work everyday? I doubt it.

Isn't the R32 and R34 illegal in the US?

 its a dang nice car,whats with all the neg talk if I wont something I buy it could give a rats butt about who approves or not,i mean we spend 700$ on a video card to play a game!!!
think what people think of us but do we care no lol!!!
and if I wont horse power I will build a hotrod nova or something had 2 of those name brand means nothing!!!

wrinvert
zero self esteem issues here, my comment was a joke and a friendly ribbing to both rush and manbear, not you. sounds more like you might have the very issue you mentioned since you cant take a joke that wasn't even directed at you. furhter the whole rest of my comment was basically saying im just as silly as rush is, with the amount of money I spent on my build so... yeah.
 
in stock trim the sti would beat this car even with the awd power loss. also by your own statement your basically saying that an sti is on a higher level for less money, gg. but please high and mighty please do tell what makes you so great that you should attempt to belittle me and my projects?
 

RushXTC
@Wrinvert GG bro. I'm very proud of you!

again it was just a friendly ribbing nothing personal, go enjoy what makes you happy dude.

If you were joking then whatever. As I said, if you feel the need to brag about your car over this one...apparently it wasn't a very good "friendly ribbing", however, if one of your targets of the ribbing didn't even get it, and I'm obviously not the only one who didn't get that deadpan "joke".

Baltothewolf

srtie4k

Holo
 
No, I'd gladly own an american car, in fact I'd prefer several right now if given the choice. I would love a Corvette(z06, base c7, or ZR1,) I'd love an CTS V, an CTS V-sport,  etc. Note how every car I've mentioned is geared towards performance while luxury takes a backseat. The G, as correct as you are in the Z badge engineering, carries the skyline name in many places. Personally its just a G to ME.
Just understand that a badge is more than marketing, and people do treat you based on what you drive, from the party you pull up to, to the drive through you go to, to the coworker you go to lunch to. 41k is still a statement of how you are, and at 41k I'd enjoy a much better car. Heck thats used CTS V(low miles might I add), BMW M money, or even a well optioned Z06 Vette, or as the OP wanted a nice SRT8 challanger.
FYI the V, the M and the vette all get good gas mileage for what they are. Most of them get 20+ which to me is more than acceptable.

If you want to compare your G35 to what everybody knows as a real Skyline (R32-R34), keep dreaming. The closest thing Nissan offers to those old cars is the GT-R. The G35/350Z are both watered down sports coupes that retained none of what makes the more famous Skylines extremely sought after.
 
Next, people who treat others based on what they drive are extremely shallow and materialistic, and not people I'd like to rub shoulders with. Maybe you like being that way, but I don't, and I can't stand people that think what you own defines you as a person, as if your choice of car makes you a better person. That's a big steaming load of crap and a bane on society.
 
Finally, my Jeep Wrangler gets 22MPG highway, but it sucks on combined, much like the 3 cars you listed. And the 09-13 CTS-V, the one I assume you're speaking of, doesn't get anywhere near 20MPG. Best I've seen is 17MPG, worst is around 9MPG with your foot to the floor. And really, if you had 500HP on tap from any one of those cars, would you baby it back and forth to work everyday? I doubt it.

Isn't the R32 and R34 illegal in the US?

R32 just became legal, but the R33 and R34 will remain illegal for a few more years. Correct.

Kia makes a great car, I miss my 2011 Forte that got repo'd last April was an amazing car, and fun as heck to drive, and with the eco package I was getting 40+ MPG on the freeway