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2013/11/01 00:50:47 (permalink)
Hey,
 
I finaly finsihed some project I;ve bin working on and time for some bf4. But got a bit of a disappointment to tell the truth.
WIth my config in Surround mode, 4-way Titan SC SLI there is a LOT of stuttering. Even changing video to medium or even low doesn't help a lot with that part.
In single display mode SLI on v-sync off there is 120-150 FPS rate (2550x1440 resolution, all ULTRA)
As soon as Surround active nothing helps is stutter like crazy and it is really really annoying. 
 
Anyone have any ideas? Btw I've got latest 331.65 drivers and also that EVGA SLI enhance installed. 
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i7 3930K @3.8Ghz (having some issues going with 4.5GHz, above that crashing all the time, using XMP mode instead)
32 GB Kingston Beast 1866MHz
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3x dell ultrasharp 27" in surround 
 
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    Robbinb85
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:20:27 (permalink)
    I have a 660 Ti OC and steady 85-95 FPS in "High"-mode. (1920x1080)
    I also had problem with FPS drops and stuttering.
     
    What helped me whas to go in to "programs and features" and uninstall EVERYTHING that have nvidia on it, and then install 331.65 -custom installation with the box Clean-installation checked.
     
    That did it for me.
     
    (i have read about some filesweep programs to really do a Clean installation but i also read about problems with that, in some cases windows wont start afterward)
    post edited by Robbinb85 - 2013/11/01 01:35:54
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    mirkoj
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:32:23 (permalink)
    that was first thing I did... removed everything and did clean install :( no luck
     
    also about driversweep used it once before.. and never touching that thing again. ruined my whole system  so... with all project I have to work on that is big NO to happen
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:34:53 (permalink)
    Then i would remove all but 1 card and try again.
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:38:39 (permalink)
    oh i thing more, when i did the clean installation again i unchecked the installation of audio and other stuff, so you just have the drivers and physx. Ive read about it and it works for a lot of people.
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:41:30 (permalink)
    Robin what are your specs? I have a 660Ti and I'm getting highest of 60fps... (1080p)

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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:46:46 (permalink)
    i5 3570K @ 4Ghz
    8gb Vengance @ 1600Mhz
    660Ti OC @ 1284Mhz overclock GPU and 6600Mhz memory with stock cooler.
    MSI Z77 with latest Bios
    and a recent reinstalled windows7 x64
     
     
    I´ve said i have the latest drivers, but now im thinking im not, its a chance that i now have nvidia 306.something drivers.
    i had problem with my card yesterday and tested like all drivers, after i found the problem (Fan) i dont know if i installed the new drivers or not. have to check when i get home.
     
     
    post edited by Robbinb85 - 2013/11/01 01:50:16
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:49:02 (permalink)
    and why would I remove 3 cards from sistem??
    btw in surround of everything is perfect only surround is stuttering.
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 01:51:16 (permalink)
    mirkoj
    and why would I remove 3 cards from sistem??
    btw in surround of everything is perfect only surround is stuttering.




    To see if it will work better to isolate the problem so you can understand whats happening.
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 02:00:45 (permalink)
    Baltothewolf
    Robin what are your specs? I have a 660Ti and I'm getting highest of 60fps... (1080p)




    forgot to say, ive reduced motion blur to 0%.
    And on ultra settings i have around 53 FPS with drops to 35.
     
     
    ive had the problem in BF3 once and only got 60FPS, it was that other program "what its name" that comes with evgas nvidia drivers, monitor something. i uninstalled that and Everything worked perfect.
    post edited by Robbinb85 - 2013/11/01 02:02:56
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 02:56:46 (permalink)
    I had a few stutters on a full 48 pplz server on Zavod 311, GTX860 vanilla, 1200P everything ULTRA with 2 X MSAA....It was fluid for about an hour then a few little microstutters...
     
    I had a lot of textures glitches ONLY on the Golmud Railway map, where I could see the squares of the texture grid, with a shimmering effect...on other maps nothing...I'm running 331.62

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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 03:16:10 (permalink)
    Baltothewolf
    Robin what are your specs? I have a 660Ti and I'm getting highest of 60fps... (1080p)




    What is your score in 3Dmark11 ??
    What is the wattage on your PSU??
     
    Maybe im on thin ice but if i were you, i should change motherboard and processor. 
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 03:45:24 (permalink)
    Robbinb85
    Maybe im on thin ice but if i were you, i should change motherboard and processor. 




    i wouldn't say you were on thin ice, that old phenom II he has is a bit long in the tooth now days. even before reading your posted specs I seen his and knew it.
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 04:24:56 (permalink)
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    Maybe im on thin ice but if i were you, i should change motherboard and processor. 




    i wouldn't say you were on thin ice, that old phenom II he has is a bit long in the tooth now days. even before reading your posted specs I seen his and knew it.




    Ok, he´s motherboard have PCIe2, i dont Think todays Graphic use all bandwith in PCIe3 (or even Close) but im sure it does something for the better :).
     
    so Baltothewolf, there is no shortcuts (but OC :D ) to an Awesome computer, you have to put your Money where your mind is.
    I dont say my computer is awesome, but i am 1 step closer when i get my 780 Classified next week
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 04:33:57 (permalink)
    There's a new SLI enhancement patch out? Because if the SLI enhancement patch is older than the new drivers, that could cause the problem.
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 07:35:36 (permalink)
    so no help btw did I mentioned that this stuttering is in single missions. in beta it wasn't so strong :)
    gonna check multiplayer as well now
     
    btw I was trying to check if there is new SLU enhancment from EVGA but it is sending me to geforce experience download every single time. whats up with that?
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 10:08:52 (permalink)
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    so no help btw did I mentioned that this stuttering is in single missions. in beta it wasn't so strong :)
    gonna check multiplayer as well now
     
    btw I was trying to check if there is new SLU enhancment from EVGA but it is sending me to geforce experience download every single time. whats up with that?




    Nvidia 331.65 WHQL contains the latest updated SLI profile for BF4
    Do NOT use -any- SLI "enhancement" patches of ANY KIND -period-
     
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    The first thing to do (if its installed)
    Uninstall Precision and make SURE to answer -NO- when asked to save data and profiles
    Reboot
     
    MANUALLY download 331.65 from here http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us to your Desktop
    Use ONLY "CUSTOM" mode and UNCHECK -ALL- Nvidia driver components "except" for Graphics driver and PhysX
    Make SURE you put a check box in "perform a Clean install"
    After the driver install is complete, REBOOT the computer once
    *the above is covered here in my Nvidia guide http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/1776355
     
    Now leave the NVCP Manage 3DSettings panel completely at DEFAULTS (make no changes)
    Just setup your monitor settings and nothing else
    REBOOT
     
    After rebooting launch BF4
    Use -ALL- of the following settings (both panels) shown below -EXACTLY- as posted
    *all of them not just the ones highlighted
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    After making the above changes, SAVE THEM
    Then QUIT the game
    then CLOSE Battlelog
    then CLOSE -and- then EXIT Origin
    *this MUST be done so that the settings changes will correctly take effect
     
    Now relaunch BF4 and go and test 
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    mirkoj
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 13:17:08 (permalink)
    did everything as suggested.. full cleared removed .. same thing stuttering a LOT.....
    again with resolution lowered to size of single screen... 2550x1440 all smooth as butter.. but surround... I don;t think taht should be a problem for 4way titan sc sli??
    especially when in beta I had it in multiplayer normal at 60fps
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 13:55:06 (permalink)
    1-PSU-?
    2-Temps of video cards?
    3-Turn off any PCIE power management options from control panel. In the nVIDIA control for power management, set to "Prefer Maximum Performance" for the BF4 profile.
    4-Set max # pre-rendered frames to 1.
     
    How does it work, now?

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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 14:25:38 (permalink)
    psu 1500W more than enough, temperatures near 80 bt not at between 70-76 on 4 of them
     
    did those changes as well prefer maxp  performance an dmax prerender frames as well..
    absolutly same thing.
    I see a LTO of poeple on bf4 having sameissues as well. looks like BF4 thing :(
     
    worse thing in beta it was working waaay better
     
    now testing in that test range alone so no people nothing still huge stuttering. vsync on off doesn't matter.
    only playing on single screen :(
     
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 14:47:12 (permalink)
    Have you tried forcing x86/32-Bit mode? I notice it runs MUCH better in that mode. Also, I turn off the MSAA (2x/4x) option and it runs better as well.

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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 14:50:10 (permalink)
    I just went into bios to try one more option, disabling hyperthreading as a lot of guys on bf4 forum said it helps well why no tot try that.. but there I;ve notice that my MBO is at 66 degrees??
    that can;t be right ... right??
     
     
     
    edit:
    btw hyper threading didn't change anything so I guess it is just single screen and wait for next update... damn
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 15:08:19 (permalink)
    OR, try downloading ProcessLasso, try multiple profiles. If it's a CPU thing, ProcessLasso will be a better option than force-disabling Hyperthreading.

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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 20:03:27 (permalink)
    Try disabling core parking. I downloaded Park Control, clicked one thing, and it fixed my stuttering in bf4. The reason people say disabling HT fixes it is because when you disable HT, core parking doesnt happen, because there is only 4 cores

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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/01 23:21:45 (permalink)
    did that too, unpark all.. still no luck so far tried everything from all forums and same thing. in 2550x1440 resolution all fine in test range up to 200 fps... in surround.. stutter like a hell.
    another thing I;ve noticed so far only after bf4 play my MBO goes up to 65-66 degrees Celsius. that is not good as well. 
    didn't notice that with gw2 fore example. 
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/02 13:27:45 (permalink)
    small update...
     
    upgraded to win 8.1
    driver reinstall
    update punkbuster
    installed directx from origin folder
     
    not sure which one of those did anything but at the end it looks to me that turning of all anti aliasing helped.. so there is just a bit of stutter now but mostly keeping steady and 55-60 fps
    And limited fps with config file as well and vsync on.
    Still hoping for some nice patch nvidia and /or bf4 to play in full glory. These 4 titans should be able to push it right? :)
     
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/03 06:44:57 (permalink)
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/03 09:07:11 (permalink)
    I also another fix posted regarding updating .net framework to version 4.5. After doing this it helped and was able to play the game but Dice has stated they are aware of the issues and are in the process of patching

     
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/03 10:48:01 (permalink)
    My friends pc was running in 32 bit and stuttering. He switched to 64 and it stopped
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    Re: BF4 stuttering a LOT! 2013/11/03 11:11:54 (permalink)
    Start GPU-Z.
    Click on the 'Sensors' tab.
    Check the 'Continue refreshing this screen while GPU-Z is in the background'.
    Play the game and make sure it is stuttering.
    Switch back to GPU-Z (Alt+Tab if it won't cause your game to crash or close the game otherwise).
    Post a screenshot of the GPU-Z sensor data here.
     
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