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2013/10/23 05:48:38 (permalink)
Hi Guys,

Have a little bit of a problem, wondering if anyone has experienced something similar or can lend a hand diagnosing the issue here. I don't seem to have the SLI option appearing the NVIDIA control panel and when I run any games or benchmarks the 2nd card just idles at 324MHz / 32c
 
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  • Asrock Extreme-3 990FX
  • Patriot Viper 1866MHz 8GB
  • 2x GTX670 2GB FTW
  • AMD FX-8320 CPU
  • Coolermaster Thunder 700W PSU
  • Windows 7 x64
  • Nvidia Drivers 331.58
Have already tried
  1. Firmware on the video cards are both 80.04.5C.00.70
  2. Updated motherboard bios to latest available on the ASRock website
  3. Tried swapping the cards around in the PCI-e slots
  4. Tried 3 different SLI bridges
  5. Tried a clean install of the Nvidia drivers
  6. Made sure all motherboard chipset drivers where installed
  7. Unplugging and replugging in the 6 pin power connectors
  8. Reseating both cards and the SLI bridges
  9. Adding the Nvidia CoolBits reg hack (Did nothing? Or couldn't get it to work?)
  10. Tried running a single display only to see if it made any difference
  11. Tried both the left and right hand SLI connectors on the cards
  12. Flipped the sli bridge over
  13. Checked the bios for any mention of any setting that might effect the PCI-E bus at all, doesnt seem to be any.
Notes

Yes the cards plugged in to the correct PCI slots
Yes both cards appear in device manager / nvidia control panel
Yes the motherboard supports SLI
Yes all the power cables are plugged in
Yes I have tested both cards individually
Yes have submitted a support ticket about 24 hours and have yet to hear anything back
 
Have been googling around which has lead me to all the tricks above, alas none have been successful. Could this be a faulty card? or a faulty motherboard? or some sort of software / driver screw up? Would be greatful for any / all suggestions / help,
 
post edited by milestm - 2013/10/25 06:14:01
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    trabe3
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 06:28:50 (permalink)
    So when swapped the cards in the PCI-E slots, I assume the card in the second slot is always the one that just sits idle?  Trying to see if the issue follows the card or the slot.  Seems like you have been pretty thorough in your testing. 
     
    Which slots are you using btw?

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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 06:35:59 (permalink)
    Yep, which ever card is in the 2nd slot sits idle.
     
    Cards are in the slots specified in the motherboard manual which happen to be PCIE2 and PCIE3. (The two PCI-E 16X slots closest to the top of the board).
     

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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 06:55:49 (permalink)
    Try testing each card separately in only the 2nd slot (PCI-e3) to see if both cards in that slot will get up to load clock speeds.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 07:08:01 (permalink)
    Yep, both cards when tested by themselves in the pcie3 socket run at full clocks =[ so the motherboard socket is probably fine, and the cards themselves seem to be fine.

    Only leaves software / driver issue or bad sli bridge connector on one of the cards?
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 07:12:07 (permalink)
    Good morning,
     
    I do apologize for any issues you are having, it is normal for the second video card to run at idle speeds while the SLI option is not enabled. However it is odd for the SLI option to not be available. At this point it can be a faulty motherboard or one of the SLI connector is bad on a video card. However can you please confirm that you are using a valid version of Windows and which version? If possible can you test the video cards in a different system for the SLI issue?

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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 07:14:04 (permalink)
    Based on that, it does sound like it.  I find it unlikely that you would have 2 bad SLI connectors on one of your cards, but I guess it's possible.
    When you did the clean driver install, did you do a custom install only installing the graphics & physx portions??  Leaving all the rest out of the install??  If not, give that a try.  Sometimes the Geforce experience can screw things up.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 07:38:50 (permalink)
    Hello milestm
     
    Like EVGATech_JoeyC mentioned, This issue could possibly be one of the SLI connector's on one of the cards. Please try the SLI bridge on the other two connections further from the I/O bracket and visually check them all for any of the gold contact points that might be discolored or possibly severed.
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 14:56:00 (permalink)
    Hi guys, thanks for all the tips, tried 2 different bridges on the second set of connectors, no luck with that.

    Running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit oem edition if that makes any difference.

    Will try another clean install of the drivers and only install the bare minimums, one component at a time to see of that helps.

    The hold contact points on the cards seem fine, no damage or discoloration.

    Unfortunately I don't know anyone with an SLI ready motherboard to test the cards, might be able to take it back to the shop and see of if they can try it. Will give them a call and ask.
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/23 15:20:05 (permalink)
    Try this just in case:
    - shut down PC
    - pull the SLI bridge connectors out by 2 mm.
    - start the PC
     
    I have an SLI bridge that doesn't work if I push it all the way on.  I have to push it on then wiggle it out a little bit before all the pins and traces make contact.
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 01:27:24 (permalink)
    Hi Isocyanate,
     
    Thanks for the tip, didn't work but was worth a shot.
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 02:03:13 (permalink)
    hi mate i had a similar issue and mine was due to a faulty psu. I opened GPU-z on both cards to check voltage and the bottom card was way low on voltage.
     
    Also sounds like it could be a motherboard issue , is there a switch on mother board to enable pci-e lanes as it might be disabled
     
    I take it you have enabled maximize 3d performance in control panel
     
    Here is a little guide i put together on forums
     
    http://forums.evga.com/tm..x?m=588728&high=sli



     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 02:48:27 (permalink)
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    I take it you have enabled maximize 3d performance in control panel
     



    This option doesn't even appear

     
    Hunted high and low in the MB Bios and theres nothing there i can find that sounds like it has anything do with the PCI-E lanes or SLI
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 03:04:50 (permalink)
    some times its on the motherboard ie like this image



     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 03:06:07 (permalink)
    what nvidia driver is that
     



     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 03:09:44 (permalink)
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    what nvidia driver is that



    Its 331.58
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 03:11:08 (permalink)
    samarlian
    some times its on the motherboard ie like this image




    thanks but nothing like that on the extreme-3 990fx
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 03:23:11 (permalink)
    ok just wanted to rule out all options, so like others said its either sli bridge or worse case pci-e slot
     
    So can you test in a different rig or take to shop like you said
     



     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 03:24:24 (permalink)

      argh what card is your monitor plugged in
     
     As it should be the top card ie card 1 not card two as per your image
     
    If monitor plugged in to card two ie bottom card it then becomes that the primary card sli wont work
     
    so do it as per above image
     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 03:35:09 (permalink)
    switch ya pc off
     
    1. plug your two monitors in to the top graphics card not the bottom card
    2. and then see if sli is available
     
     
     
     



     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 05:33:56 (permalink)
    Hi guys, thanks again for the suggestions, have tried this trick, both plugging in to the top or the bottom or even one of each male no difference when it comes to not having an SLI option to enable in the control panel.
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 05:43:46 (permalink)

     
    Yep, just swapped them back and no different :(
     
    Downloading linux, will try installing that and seeing if SLI options will appear, that way it pretty much rules out hardware faults if it does, or if it doest show up, pretty much rules out software faults and leaves only the hardware.
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 08:32:15 (permalink)
    The only reason that I can think of that would not allow you to enable SLI is if the RAM was different sizes on the video boards. Can you use GPU-Z to double check each board for memory size?
    http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/sysinfo/gpu-z/
     
     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/24 21:32:14 (permalink)
    Looking at the top card, it would appear as though you are using some type of bridge connector to plug the 6-pin into the second power slot.  Is that true?  If so, try doing it so that it has it's own power connector and see if that helps.  If not, you may need a slightly beefier power supply.  The only thing I could think of outside of Zuhl's suggestion is that the cards are not getting enough power.


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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/25 01:49:26 (permalink)
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    Looking at the top card, it would appear as though you are using some type of bridge connector to plug the 6-pin into the second power slot.  Is that true?  If so, try doing it so that it has it's own power connector and see if that helps.  If not, you may need a slightly beefier power supply.  The only thing I could think of outside of Zuhl's suggestion is that the cards are not getting enough power.



    No extra bridge added, just how the power supply came. According to every power supply calculator I could find the TDP max only comes to 575-590W. I'm no expert but shouldn't a 700W psu suffice (providing its not faulty or anything right?)
     
    I think I might have found some sort of issue here, GPU-Z is saying the 2nd card is running at @8x while the first is running @16x in the PCI-E sockets. Everything else is identical as far as I can see. Could this be the issue?
     
    CARD ONE

    CARD TWO

     
    Any one know how to force set the pci-e lanes to 8x 8x or 16x 16x? If thats even the issue... this all pretty new to me.
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/25 02:53:48 (permalink)
    I can only guess, but I think your card may be connected to one of the x8 lanes on your board.  However, if the board supports PCIe 2.0 (which it does), then those usually have 2-3 x16 capable slots and one x4 slot.  *shrug. 


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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/25 02:59:23 (permalink)
    Have you tried pulling it out and plugging it in?  :)  I am just kidding.  You could try performing a clean install of the drivers WITH the cards in the board.  See if that does it.  Also, the only reason I can really think of (barring all other solutions you have tried) is one of three things:
     
    1) The SLI connectors are bad (50%)
    2) You are trying to use a Crossfirex adapter
    3) The SLI contacts are dirty/corroded/bad (50%)
     


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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/25 06:10:42 (permalink)
    Borrowed a friends inno3d gtx670 2gb, swapped it out for each card, tried it as primary and secondary with 3 different bridges(the asrock one that came with the board, an asus one they gave me at the shop I bought the cards from and a inno3d one my friend lent me). Pretty safe to say its not the bridges or the video card at this stage. 
     
    either a software problem (will find out once ubuntu finishes downloading) or the motherboard has an issue, which is probably he biggest pain in the balls possible as RA'ing it requires disassembling the entire system :(
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/25 08:10:40 (permalink)
    A couple things here:
     
    No need to worry about one GPU showing x16 and the other x8.  Thats is most likely how your mobo is layed out.  A board can have several x16 slots but it doesn't mean they will run at 16x speed.  If your board has 2 x16 slots, and one runs at 16, the other at 8, when you're running a game in SLI, you're running both at 8x speed anyway.  All slots will run at the slowest lane speed.
     
    Also, keep in mind that your PSU is 700w, however, it won't run at 700w continuously.  Most likely it will provide you about 80% of 700w which is 560w give or take for continuous use.  It's possible your pretty borderline on power.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: No SLI option in NVIDIA Control Panel, cannot enable SLI - 2GB GTX670 FTW 2013/10/25 08:40:54 (permalink)
    Remove your SLI bridge and check if there was any protective tape on it that is now preventing some of the contacts from connecting the boards. I know this sounds stupid but it did happen to someone else here at EVGA forums.
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