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2013/05/06 11:08:31 (permalink)
Folding@home Core 17 Update

must watch video on what is being work on
realised by PandeScience youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXK6g6TDqxg


 


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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 11:14:30 (permalink)
Pretty informative Video actually... Thank you for posting! 

 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 11:20:10 (permalink)
OK... Now how and where do we go to help on these new needs? I got lost... Kind of hard to understand what he said... Fobinch? Freenote?

 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 11:23:39 (permalink)
Linux GPU core?....Native linux folding?...no wine?
120k on titan
110k on 7970
81K on 680
 
to come:
Intel Xeon Phi compatiblility
Intel GPU compatibility
more speed = More points
 
so where is the new core?
Id like to see it
 
Not many internal testers from the EVGA team...do we have any?
 
Questions?
Reddit IAMA
www.reddit.com/r/folding
 
 
OOOHHHH!!!! core 17 is back on beta
proteneer
We released OpenMM 5.1 based core 17 today
AMD Linux - not supported yet - linux driver unstable
....
 With the native linux core, you won't need to use wine anymore.
 

Linux GPU cores start today
 
Thx you proteneer for keeping us more informed...this is what we like to see more from stanford
if you need help with the core or openMM(coding) - I might be able to help in the coming months
 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 11:36:17 (permalink)
I will try to improve my Engrish in the future, in the mean time, there's Closed Captions on the Youtube Video =)
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 11:40:30 (permalink)


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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 11:56:55 (permalink)
Great news to me...thanks for sharing it and the additional info/links from XZ!
 
Maybe this will herald a new turning point for our Team and for GPU Folding?  Hopes up...



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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 11:57:41 (permalink)
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I will try to improve my Engrish in the future, in the mean time, there's Closed Captions on the Youtube Video =)

It could be my hearing more than your speaking!
 
Cannot thank you enough for keeping us up to date. The direct result is it makes "Many" of us pump more into F@H. Thank you! 

 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 12:00:45 (permalink)
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P7663 Beta testing for FAHCore_17 and OpenMM5.1  

Do we have a thread somewhere walking us through applying for the Beta team? Last I remember was they did not want more folks, but that was in a thread full of other info and I am not certain it was factual or opinionated... 
 
I know we can do the flags. I am thinking of going all in and helping now that we are seeing this kind of support from Stanford/PG....

 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 12:04:51 (permalink)
if you want to apply for Beta Team
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8
 
 
read the requirements and then post in the thread your system specs 
 
It be helpful to acknowledge you read and agree to the conditions
 
 
 
Update on estimated PPD on new Beta WU
670FTW 70K on 7663
570 31K on 7663
 
WOW!!.... if this holds My PPD just doubled
seems the 570 doesn't get much help with the new core
 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 12:24:04 (permalink)
Thanks for the presentation, proteneer, and thanks for posting the link, iancook.  It was very informative and is exciting to see so much activity on the development front.
 
AB, it was FAHbench (F@H benchmark program) and [edited to fix name] freenode
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 12:35:59 (permalink)
FAHBench and Freenode
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 12:43:16 (permalink)
Wow thats incredible to see that kind of improvement, and good to here its coming to intel i7's too. Is there a possibility it will make a change for bigAdv in the future too?


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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 12:54:00 (permalink)
Be warned!!!
core 17 still uses a lot of CPU cycles with Nvidia cards...so keep a few threads avail for the GPUs


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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 13:05:02 (permalink)
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Be warned!!!
core 17 still uses a lot of CPU cycles with Nvidia cards...so keep a few threads avail for the GPUs

Thank you for this heads up!!
 
What % of use? One full core each, less than or over? I leave two cores unused on my i7's for the two GPU's to use when they need it...

 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 13:12:11 (permalink)
It be the same as last core 17... just leave 2 cores/threads for all your GPUs 
 
1 GPU is about 5%-10% CPU (3930k)
I'll let you know more as I get them loaded up with the new WU's
 
I have 1 old WU's being serviced still
 
 
my core2 quad ..it's almost using a full core for 1 GPU
 
my 3930k is now up to 15-20% CPU usage with two GPU's
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 13:25:20 (permalink)
NVidia uses one full CPU core per GPU.  AMD uses very little most of the time, but can spike up to a full core briefly.
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 13:30:42 (permalink)
On my SR-2 (with dual, 4-physical-core Xeons), I had to leave a minimum of (4) threads free to avoid having crashes while Folding on my GTX690.  I had tried (2) threads and was still getting crashes that were killing the GPU Folding WU too.  I'll have to give this latest core and 7663 WU a try just to see if anything has improved in that regard. 
 
I tell ya fellas, this is the kind of interaction and sharing of information that we have wanted to get from Stanford for a long time.  I feel that we have seen a turn for the better in that regard with the combination of Blog posts, Proteneer's direct involvement in Forums and now this video which was very interesting to watch.  Looking good PG...well done, thank-you! 



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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 14:12:12 (permalink)
Just tested out the new core, very impressive performance!
 

 
Still uses one full CPU core thanks to Nvidia's default spin scheduling though.

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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 14:23:56 (permalink)
is this a hint?
zdanger
So we're talking 110k PPD for a 7970 at ~270 watts? PPD/watt isn't too bad... Still not as good as my bigadv rigs.
proteneer
 
Wait until -biggpuadv :P


 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 16:22:29 (permalink)
Folding support for the Intel Xeon Phi, I foresee another rig build which I shall name thee "Cobalt". 

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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 16:23:42 (permalink)
Recent post on the AMA:
 
proteneerOSX won't be supported because their OpenCL implementation is kinda borked. Linux is about 5-7% faster than Windows because the drivers don't need to deal with the Windows way of doing things.



 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 16:59:56 (permalink)
FYI... Mine is using "Three" cores... (Bottom right in the pic showing 33% CPU Usage)
 
920 DO with (2) 680's in SLI...
 
 

 

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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 17:03:09 (permalink)
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My question: do you think there is anything the reddit community can do to promote folding@home and other distributed computing projects?


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proteneer F@H GPU Core Programmer[S
 
It never hurts to tell more people about [link=mailto:Folding@home]Folding@home[/link]. Get more involved in internal testing in our IRC channel. Also, you guys can tell NVIDIA to fix their OpenCL drivers, and AMD for improve their OpenCL linux drivers. In terms of concrete things, organizing more events such as competitions, etc. is always good.









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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 17:06:06 (permalink)
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slapdasbr
 
My question: do you think there is anything the reddit community can do to promote folding@home and other distributed computing projects?


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proteneer F@H GPU Core Programmer[S

It never hurts to tell more people about [link=mailto:Folding@home]Folding@home[/link]. Get more involved in internal testing in our IRC channel. Also, you guys can tell NVIDIA to fix their OpenCL drivers, and AMD for improve their OpenCL linux drivers. In terms of concrete things, organizing more events such as competitions, etc. is always good.










I guess, then, we're ahead of the curve?


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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 17:10:46 (permalink)
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FYI... Mine is using "Three" cores... (Bottom right in the pic showing 33% CPU Usage)

920 DO with (2) 680's in SLI...





mines at 25-28% with three 670FTW - that be about 3 threads... 1 thread per GPU


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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 17:12:28 (permalink)
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 FYI... Mine is using "Three" cores... (Bottom right in the pic showing 33% CPU Usage)

Your computer is using that much at that moment.  Core_17 itself cannot use more than one core.  If the client is writing a checkpoint, your computer is doing any background tasks (like taking a screenshot), cpu usage will be higher.
 
It will use an entire core though.  So if you assign SMP to use all remaining cores, ANY other activity will cause SMP to conflict, and it's tpf will be effected (but GPU tpf should not change, as Nvidia drivers put a bear hug on their core, refusing to share it).
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 17:27:09 (permalink)
the new core17 works with HFM again!
7970's @1025 are getting 45-46kppd ea, which is up about 7k from 7662!

 
im so happy now that they arnt sitting on the shelf rusting away!
 
edit: I just fell out of my chair 680's are getting 75k ea! its gonna be a heat wave!
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 17:30:42 (permalink)
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FYI... Mine is using "Three" cores... (Bottom right in the pic showing 33% CPU Usage)

Your computer is using that much at that moment.  Core_17 itself cannot use more than one core.  If the client is writing a checkpoint, your computer is doing any background tasks (like taking a screenshot), cpu usage will be higher.

It will use an entire core though.  So if you assign SMP to use all remaining cores, ANY other activity will cause SMP to conflict, and it's tpf will be effected (but GPU tpf should not change, as Nvidia drivers put a bear hug on their core, refusing to share it).


I see. That makes sense. Two browsers and the screen shot must be using more than one thread. Thank you...

 
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Re:Folding@home Core 17 Update video 2013/05/06 17:31:40 (permalink)
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the new core17 works with HFM again!
7970's @1025 are getting 45-46kppd ea, which is up about 7k from 7662!



Project ID: 7663
Core: ZETA
Credit: 1600
Frames: 100


Name: HD7970 Slot 00
Path: localhost-36330
Number of Frames Observed: 24

Min. Time / Frame : 00:01:16 - 124,561.0 PPD
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:18 - 119,801.1 PPD
Cur. Time / Frame : 00:01:16 - 123,692.1 PPD
R3F. Time / Frame : 00:01:18 - 119,349.3 PPD
All Time / Frame : 00:01:18 - 119,349.3 PPD
Eff. Time / Frame : 00:01:20 - 115,256.4 PPD


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