getting your 3770k cooler

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2012/10/04 13:11:40 (permalink)
after some nagging from my buddy violence i finally poped the top and re timmed my 3770k with AS5. i used a new hobby knife and some slow even pressure cuts to cut the glue and get to the chip. using arcticlean i cleaned and relapped the heatsink. the get the glue off the chip itself i used my thumb nail and rubbed gently. put a light coat of AS5 on the chip inside slapped the heatsink back on and centered it then locked it down in the clamp.
 
right on first boot and folding with out letting the AS5 cure its already running 5'C cooler in both linux and F@H!
 
i only snapped 1 pic sorry guys i was focused on what i was doing. 

post edited by wrinvert - 2012/10/08 18:28:41


 
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/04 13:18:12 (permalink)
    wrinvert

    after some nagging from my buddy violence i finally poped the top and re timmed my 3770k with AS5. i used a new hobby knife and some slow even pressure cuts to cut the glue and get to the chip. using arcticlean i cleaned and relapped the heatsink. the get the glue off the chip itself i used my thumb nail and rubbed gently. put a light coat of AS5 on the chip inside slapped the heatsink back on and centered it then locked it down in the clamp.

    right on first boot and folding with out letting the AS5 cure its already running 5'C cooler in both linux and [link=mailto:F@H]F@H[/link]!

    i only snapped 1 pic sorry guys i was focused on what i was doing.


    I'm thinking about doing this with mine. What is the best thermal grease out on the market today?


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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/04 13:20:15 (permalink)
    i had AS5 laying here, when i order my ftw blocks later this month im going to pick up http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46_58_1110&products_id=23069 i've used it befor and love it!


     
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/05 15:51:17 (permalink)
    hehe, pretty cool good job on this one!
    bunch of people in OCN did same (some failed and killed the CPU), but it IS tempting I have to admit myself
     
    for now though I want to keep the warranty, because I still have an overclocking plan on it and might use it to try hunting for a better chip one more time

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/05 16:08:10 (permalink)
    I used to use Shin Etsu X23 (same model as you pick), it was great, but that syringe lasted me only for a few applications.
     
    for now I am out of "soft" TIMs, so at the moment running the IC Diamond, but I want to remove as it "laps" the chip surface and I cannot loose the writing over IHS if I want to send it back fro RMA one more time.
     
    have you seen this new TIM yet? could be a hit, ordered a syringe for testing:
    http://www.prolimatech.co...cts/detail.asp?id=1582

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/08 13:48:12 (permalink)
    ^^ I currently use PK-3 and it's amazing!


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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/08 13:51:58 (permalink)
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    ^^ I currently use PK-3 and it's amazing!

     
    thanks for a review!
    I am awaiting my shipment of it will be re-TIMming the CPU on Saturday.

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/08 14:23:17 (permalink)
    Careful with putting TIM directly on the die, if the stuff is abrasive or you attach the heatsink with too much pressure, you can damage the CPU die.  The IHS isn't just for integrated heat spreading, it also protects the die.  Don't think you can RMA a CPU if you remove the IHS, I hope you guys can afford another processor if something goes wrong.

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/08 14:51:57 (permalink)
    about time. some coollaborotory in there she will be mighty cool indeed. 
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/08 14:52:23 (permalink)
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    Careful with putting TIM directly on the die, if the stuff is abrasive or you attach the heatsink with too much pressure, you can damage the CPU die.  The IHS isn't just for integrated heat spreading, it also protects the die.  Don't think you can RMA a CPU if you remove the IHS, I hope you guys can afford another processor if something goes wrong.


    money and chips are no issue for me, it more about the fun of trying new things. that being said im trying it now without the heat speader at all and just using the water block to hold it in place.


     
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/08 14:53:21 (permalink)
    Me Like it Very Much Great Job man.

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/08 17:14:38 (permalink)
    okay time to go big or go home!!!!



    running LinX check out the temps!!!! 54'C at times!

    64'c on the CPU at full load!

    at idle with the room temp at 72

    while folding, this is 10'c cooler then normal!

    post edited by wrinvert - 2012/10/08 17:20:35


     
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/08 17:27:58 (permalink)
    I have to admit it looks almost like an embedded CPU without the socket bracket or the IHS, but now that you have decently low temps, are you going to try for higher frequencies?

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/08 17:31:33 (permalink)
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    I have to admit it looks almost like an embedded CPU without the socket bracket or the IHS, but now that you have decently low temps, are you going to try for higher frequencies?


    this chip seems to be happy at 4.5 so no just getting it colder.


     
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/08 17:32:30 (permalink)
    that is a success
     
    I've seen 50/50 chances over OCN members attempts in either fixing the temps or completely destroying the chip, yours is a very nice result 10C below what it is was is before, very good!
     
    the maximum improvement I've seen was 20C lower temps under load then before the procedure
     
    pity, it voids warranty, if it didn't I would do this on my chip right now, but am still debating if I should send it back for RMA under tuning protection plan (especially if it start degrading in next few weeks) or just void it and take my chances soon ...
     
    I however am aiming at 5GHz in a week or so, voltage wise it's very well doable ... temps wise however ... I am hitting thermal limits since 4.8GHz under IBT ... just keep adding more fans, improving water flow and offsetting my room ambient with AC at full blast :D
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/08 18:10:59 (permalink)
    Good job......4.5.....candy for the baby....make me love it!

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/08 19:32:08 (permalink)
    someone needs to get a validation on that chip. time to put in some work. 
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/09 14:34:20 (permalink)
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    this chip seems to be happy at 4.5 so no just getting it colder.

     
    Weak
     
    Max that thing out and see what it can do!

               
            
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/09 14:41:49 (permalink)
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    this chip seems to be happy at 4.5 so no just getting it colder.


    Weak

    Max that thing out and see what it can do!


    once i go above 4.5 its a voltage hog... 1.425 to get 4.7 stable... not worth it.


     
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler, Who needs an IHS?! 2012/10/09 16:27:05 (permalink)
    D*mn you wrinvert!!

    Now you've ignited my temptation! I killed one already and unfortunately that happened to be my best overclocking 3770K out of my 3 replacements!!!!!!

    IHS removal FTW, good job brotha...👍!!!!!!

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/09 17:17:06 (permalink)
    You're a brave man, nice work!
     
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    Careful with putting TIM directly on the die, if the stuff is abrasive or you attach the heatsink with too much pressure, you can damage the CPU die.  The IHS isn't just for integrated heat spreading, it also protects the die.  Don't think you can RMA a CPU if you remove the IHS, I hope you guys can afford another processor if something goes wrong.


    money and chips are no issue for me, it more about the fun of trying new things. that being said im trying it now without the heat speader at all and just using the water block to hold it in place.

     
    Send me a 3770K then? And/or a Gigabyte Z77-UP7?
     
    If money and chips are no issue that is. 

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/12 16:11:41 (permalink)
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/12 17:43:39 (permalink)
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    is this your video? :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMzzUuvKWPM&feature=related


    nope, i dont do videos.


     
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/12 18:01:35 (permalink)
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    is this your video? :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMzzUuvKWPM&feature=related


    nope, i dont do videos.


    the one in the video  was a 3750k...it's funny that CPU survived after it got abused that much
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/13 11:19:32 (permalink)
    okay i switched the board to the new case and added the GPU to the loop, build log can be seen here:http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1762247. i switched thermal paste to Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra  and temps dropped another 5-6'C with the added heat of the GPU in the loop!


     
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/16 19:24:40 (permalink)
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    Binar

    is this your video? :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMzzUuvKWPM&feature=related


    nope, i dont do videos.


    the one in the video  was a 3750k...it's funny that CPU survived after it got abused that much

    must be the same kid who took apart his psu and died.
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/17 13:36:31 (permalink)
    yeah the liquid ultra is pretty amazing stuff.
     
    i just did this 2 days ago and used liquid ultra on both die and ihs/heatsink. had the 3770k 5.0 @ 1.5v, HT on max temp 86c on second core under prime95, with 2 gpu's on the same loop.
     
    right now it's at 4.8 @ 1.37v ish, around 70 ish max, i forgot.
    trying to keep dropping voltage on it :P

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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/17 19:19:58 (permalink)
    Got Some questions as i am thinking of doing it my self, I see the improvement in temps under full load but for gaming what are the temp improvements i want to run 4.5-4.6 for gaming (using a h100) and i wondering doing this will it help or will i notice a improvement? also how are people killing there chips doing this what is going wrong for some people Ive watch a lot of videos about this and i don't see how some are killing there chips?
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    Re:getting your 3770k cooler 2012/10/17 19:30:49 (permalink)
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    Got Some questions as i am thinking of doing it my self, I see the improvement in temps under full load but for gaming what are the temp improvements i want to run 4.5-4.6 for gaming (using a h100) and i wondering doing this will it help or will i notice a improvement? also how are people killing there chips doing this what is going wrong for some people Ive watch a lot of videos about this and i don't see how some are killing there chips?


    it will run cooler in gaming 5-8'C so you will have less heat in you case. people kill chips by forcing the process to fast and nick the chip under the IHS or they cut the PCB and ruin a leads.


     
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