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Hello Forum Members. I need some questions answered. 1st of all I have never OC'd any of my Video Cards before. I'm really interested. I'm running 2650x1440 as my main gaming monitor flanked by 2 1920x1080monitors for 2D applications. I think I need to get the most out of my card for this resolution. I'm getting huge dips in GW2 (I know I know, it’s not optimized for Nvidia yet but I'm still worried) And why not get as much FPS as I can =) I’ve been reading forums and such but can’t get anywhere. Need all the advice I can get. Let’s get to the meat of my questions: 1. How much performance gain on average would I be seeing? (I see about 10% on forums) –I know it’s different on every card. –but average. 2. What about life expectancy in regards to OC vs. Non-OC 3. Do I need a Cooler like I did my CPU? 4. I read that it “throttles back” when it reaches 70C? When I play D3 running Temperatures is already 75C. Is that normal? Does that throttle back already? I’m confused about this… 5. What does Back plating do? 6. I can only seem to find GTX670 OC’s steps –would it be the same as GTX680? (link below) http://www.overclock.net/t/1265110/the-gtx-670-overclocking-master-guide 7. Will updated drivers mean I have to OC again? 8. Is everything done on Precision X? IF not what else? 9. Warranty with OC-ing using Precision X? 10. Am I missing anything? 11. Links? with step-by-step for a noob? Thanks in advance for all your comments and replies. Look forward to hearing from you! Note: Rest of system is on my signature!
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 13:24:04
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I have a stock 680, while playing D3 most i see is 60-65 tops, does your case have proper cooling. Do you use PrecisionX for fan control at all?, I enableded software fan control and it keeps it qyuit a bit cooler than letting the card control the fan.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 13:31:14
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I haven't done Oc-ing at all. Posted to get the right direction and questions I had regarding OC-ing =)
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 14:41:15
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Sorry, I was sort of adressing #4, was taking into consideration that if I were going to OC, that'd be the first place I'd start making sure my card was running cool with stock settings before atempting to OC it.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 14:59:45
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Thanks Cmanico Humm my air flow is pretty good I would assume. But it is at 70-75C when running D3 at 50% usage.... Any other takers on these TEMPS underload? Any other takers on the 1st post?
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 15:06:30
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change out thermal compound, setup a fan curve. If you live someplace that is warm i suggest vsync you should not see past 58-65c under full load. My vanilla oc's up to 1300 on stock voltage, it ran hot, would not oc at all before the retimming custom fan curve.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 15:20:15
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Hey Donta1979. I live in Canada =( But it has been hot recently. Air flow "should be good" I clean my interior every month -fans, filters, blowing it out with a air compressor can. Never seen even one dust ball. Just a thin layer of dust from a month of use. I wouldn't be comfortamble replacing the thermal compund. Wouldnt know what I would be doing.... V-Sync is on -GPU is at 50% and Temps at 75C. Should I be worried? Anyone can answer my questions on OP?
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 16:40:51
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Hey Donta1979. I live in Canada =( But it has been hot recently.
Air flow "should be good" I clean my interior every month -fans, filters, blowing it out with a air compressor can. Never seen even one dust ball. Just a thin layer of dust from a month of use.
I wouldn't be comfortamble replacing the thermal compund. Wouldnt know what I would be doing.... V-Sync is on -GPU is at 50% and Temps at 75C.
Should I be worried?
Anyone can answer my questions on OP?
do this on your fan curve Re-timming the gpu is no different than timming your cpu. Just have to be careful, and use a tim like MX 2 that is not conductive. As for your questions 1. How much performance gain on average would I be seeing? (I see about 10% on forums) –I know it’s different on every card. –but average. a boost from what? oc vs no oc? if so depends on the card and how well it ocs 2. What about life expectancy in regards to OC vs. Non-OC depends on heat, on both. Along with the card there is no guanteed time frame. Its like asking a doctor how long your going to live with nothing wrong with you. 3. Do I need a Cooler like I did my CPU? Thats up to you. Antec makes a sweet liquid cooler for your card. 4. I read that it “throttles back” when it reaches 70C? When I play D3 running Temperatures is already 75C. Is that normal? Does that throttle back already? I’m confused about this… Yes they do, it downclocks at 70c. 75c depends on your ambient temps. 5. What does Back plating do? Looks nice maybe lower temps 1-2c 6. I can only seem to find GTX670 OC’s steps –would it be the same as GTX680? Use this its in my sig and its in my driver post stickied at the top of the 600 series section here on the forums. 600 Series Overclocking Read this Guide from Guru3d GeForce GTX 680 Overclock Guide 7. Will updated drivers mean I have to OC again? Sometimes depends on the drivers, but no not always. 8. Is everything done on Precision X? IF not what else? you can use precision x, or rivatuner, or afterburner, its up to you what one you use 9. Warranty with OC-ing using Precision X? As long as you dont cause major physical damage to your card. 10. Am I missing anything? Nope 11. Links? with step-by-step for a noob? http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=1519930&mpage=1#1519930 600 Series Overclocking Read this Guide from Guru3d GeForce GTX 680 Overclock Guide your temps disconnect a monitor... and the dips in your fps disconnect a monitor, get a cheap gpu to run an alternate display if you dont like the heat or dips in fps. your running a high res monitor with a 1080p display your taxing your card... So are your temps normal with a second monitor? yup, performance dips yup you have a second display your pushing alot though your card. Also at the resolution your playing at do you have a 4gb card or a 2gb card? If this helped you please ask the mods to give me a br...
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 17:42:05
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Thanks for the tidbits. Will the Win OS crash/blue screen before you reach the max settings with Precision X? I have some blocks to set then will have a bunch more questions. Right now I have everything on a test bench to make sure it works before watering. Guess I should jump to Precision X or OC forum?
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 18:07:06
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use 3dmark 11, 3dmark vantage it should lock up blue screen, or your driver will crash, just do it slow in small increments.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 18:38:43
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Thanks, good, I just wanted to make sure that Precision X is the tool to adjust to max, or, right before it. Can't wait to get this put together. Ok, one more, do you push the gpu clock up first then memory? Is there a general rule, like bump gpu up 5% them memory up 2% or something? Quite frankly I don't understand the memory part and want to focus on gpu anyway? ....I'll put it together then tweak. Thank you.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 18:41:10
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depends, on the card honestly I normally get the gpu clock as far as it will go then back it down a little bit then up the vram clocks.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 18:45:27
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donta1979 depends, on the card honestly I normally get the gpu clock as far as it will go then back it down a little bit then up the vram clocks. That's that I was looking for, Thank You.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 18:53:42
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yw since you have three cards you might want to oc each one at a time by itself to find out what is the max oc you can pull off. Once you find that you will have better idea where to oc with tri sli. You can only oc with multiple cards by the highest oc the weakest of the cards gets. Also keeps you from pulling out your hair=D
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/23 18:57:56
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donta1979 yw since you have three cards you might want to oc each one at a time by itself to find out what is the max oc you can pull off. Once you find that you will have better idea where to oc with tri sli. You can only oc with multiple cards by the highest oc the weakest of the cards gets. Also keeps you from pulling out your hair=D Another Thank You!!
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 11:52:47
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Thanks donata1979. Great GUIDE! -BR INCOMING!!!!! I think my idel and gpu running a bit hot is caused by my flanking monitors (even if its not being used for any application but by just being on). -like you said I don't want to use a seperate system just to look at 2D applications like websurfing and I like watching Temps, Speeds, and other relavenat information on another monitor while gaming. I guess I will have to set-up fan speeds -even If I dont OC. And I'm looking at a cooling solution. Not a big water-cooling fan, but I will look at the Antec Site. I'm running the 2gig version! -Don't think I will run into VRAM issues as I only play D3, WoW, and GW2. Nothing VRAM hungry. =). A confirmation on: Thorttle Backing - Once its reaches 70C it thorttles back 13Mhz one time and only one time correct? If so is the 13Mhz a big deal in terms of performance? Can't access the Guru3D website at work...=( Is the 670 OC guide ok for 680? Sorry about these questions as they may seem silly to you. Im more of a person that is black and white answers and I have understanding issues. I just want to be told excatly what 2 do. LOL Many thanks!
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2012/08/24 13:20:55
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the downclock is really no big deal. Just buy a cheap gpu, a 8800/9800 GT will be more than enough even a geforce 610 GT the cheapest one they have would do it for the second display. The liquid cooler for the card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186067 I am sure they are very simular in terms on how to overclock.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 13:35:46
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Thanks for your quick response and your patience with me donta1979. Cooler Card: Damnnnnn! Thats expensive LOL. Let me Try downloading PerX and try fan profiling 1st before it gives my wife an excuse to buy a new pair of shoes. (I spend she spends) sigh* I'm confused about adding another card....this is what I have: All 3 monitors are connected to my GTX680 U2711 -DP Left monitor: U2212hm DVI-D Right monitor: U2212hm DVI Are you saying I can connect my main monitor only to the GTX680 and connect the left and right flanking monitor with another card on the same computer/mobo just for 2D applications? I'm sorry again if I sound dumbfounded...I used to use xfire ATI 5850's and the only way to set up 3-way display (non-eye infinity) was on ONE card. Again I only play on One Monitor and I "mouse-over" for web page access for minor browsing while playing MMO's.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 14:29:43
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to make your 680 run cooler buy a cheap geforce 610 gt put it into your computer as well and run your 2d monitor off of it. You dont have to do this, but it boost performance on your 680 and lower its temps. Its that or just put up with it, or disconnect your monitor your using for 2d while you game. oh you have 3 displays... yeah game performance can be solved by adding a cheap 2nd card or disconnecting them while gaming.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 14:35:03
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I'm getting off work and heading over to get a Low-End video card to run the flanking monitors. If it plug and play? I assume it will auto detect its self? I play in windows mode-Full screen and not FULL screen. How would this be set up? GTX680 -U2711-DP? GT610 -Left and Right monitor -DVI/DVI?
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 14:48:00
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plug in your main display into your 680 and then the other displays into the 610.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 15:07:48
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Does gaming in full windows-mode or windows mode affect anything? Cause I can technically move the game over to other monitors.
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 17:09:14
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gaming in window mode affects framerate, full screen full performance
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 18:05:10
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OK..I 1st wanna give Donta1979 a shout out. Thank you so much for all your help. Thought I would share my findings with everyone. Did not OC yet but will soon. Had concerns about my heating -RESOLVED. Picked up a 2nd video card a EVGA GT610 $50.00 =) -Left and Right flanking monitor on GT610 -Main gaming monitor in GTX680 > I play in full windows mode @ 2560x1440 and no issues. Lets do some before and after readings: STK fans with 3 monitors plugged in to GTX680 Diablo 3 1 hour of play @ Max Settings -IDLE: 50C -LOAD: 75c -GPU: Usage: 50-60% -FPS dips and stutters EVGA PrecisionX Fan profile + 2 Monitors on GT610 Diablo 3 1 hour of play @ Max Settings -IDLE: 38C -LOAD: 56c -GPU: Usage: 40-50% -FPS steady Fan Profile. 0-40C ~ 40% fan speed 50C ~ 50% fan speed 70C ~ 70% fan speed 80C+ ~ 100% fan speed The temp readings are wicked and the fans/computer isn't really louder then before. Then again I haven't hit 70C yet. =) Thanks again DONTA1979!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/24 22:19:30
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donta1979, you have me thinking about this extra card thing. My 3 cards will be sli, cranked up, etc. running the 3 surround 3d monitors. If I do want to have that extra 2d on a 4th card/610 or like, would the Precision X just control the 3 sli cards? or am I pushing it and just run the 4th/2d monitor from one of the ports on the 3 cards?
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/25 07:49:27
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Hey Danielblackmore, Precision X controls my GTX680 and GT610 separately but with the same fan profile I set up. -I've never SLI but hope that information helps. If your able to run another monitor just for 2D applications I would highly recommend it! Took away heat and gained performance by just doing it. Best $50 i ever spent recently. =)
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/26 17:56:30
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MrHamm Hey Danielblackmore, Precision X controls my GTX680 and GT610 separately but with the same fan profile I set up. -I've never SLI but hope that information helps. If your able to run another monitor just for 2D applications I would highly recommend it! Took away heat and gained performance by just doing it. Best $50 i ever spent recently. =) Thanks, ya, for $50, might as well!
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/27 07:37:36
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ya..cooler would run $100+ for air and god knows how much for waterblock. 20C lower temps and 10% performance increase (at least from my testing) for $50 is a steal. But only for us who use other monitor(s) for 2D applications.. really interested to see your findings with SLI + 2ndary card for you other monitors =)
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Re:GTX 680 reference card: OC-ing using Precision X
2012/08/27 08:47:30
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MrHamm really interested to see your findings with SLI + 2ndary card for you other monitors =) Hey, thanks for the idea, I'll be back in a couple days to let you know.
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