580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ?

Author
Subodai
New Member
  • Total Posts : 19
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
2011/12/15 05:22:24 (permalink)
Hello, 
I've downloaded precision with voltage options to look at this, I've read around other forums that the voltage on these should be something like 1.150 ? Mine is defaulting to 1.013 (I'm at work so i might be a number or two out here)
 
1) What is the proper Voltage settings for these cards ? I have plenty of cooling (it's water cooled obviously).
 
2) When I change the voltage and apply it, when i reboot it doesn't seem to be saving properly. 
 
3) Is there any updated Bios in the pipeline for these? It looks like every other revision of the card has at least a 1.1 update where as these don't?
 
I'm getting a lot of intermittent crashing in BF3 and I've tried EVERY fix there is to be found, under-clocking, voltage increase, new drivers, SSD install, fresh windows install etc etc etc, except a firmware update, of which there is none. Is there a reason for this? (other than they are rare)
 
Cheers guys

Sub
#1

18 Replies Related Threads

    VequalsITR
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 3366
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/22 13:18:39
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 05:30:41 (permalink)
    i am not sure about voltage but if you use evga precision latest version to apply voltages , make sure you click on about tab and check apply at start up
     
    if all fails use the ASUS GPU TWEAK its best software after evga's

    All the problems of the world could be settled easily if men were only willing to think. The trouble is that men very often resort to all sorts of devices in order not to think, because thinking is such hard work.
    -Thomas J. Watson 
    I am a senior in Comp. Engineering.

    3801HGV tweaked firmware.
     
    #2
    hoserx
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2862
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/02/15 21:00:31
    • Location: Ohio
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 4
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 05:32:39 (permalink)
    the voltage shown at idle is different than the load voltage... it will go up when utilized. 

    Asus Rampage IV Formula x79/ Core i7 3820 /16gb G Skill ddr3-2133mhz  / 2x EVGA GTX 680 /   Intel X-25m 80gb G2 + 120gb G2  / Corsair Force GT 120gb   /WD Caviar black 1TB  /WD Caviar green 500gb /Sound Blaster X-fi titanium fatal1ty / Corsair AX1200 /NZXT Switch 810 (white)/Corsair H100/ HP ZR30W 
     
    #3
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 11:52:31 (permalink)
    I know this, this is the voltage limit at high/3d mode.. I'm not daft :)
    #4
    EliteGeek91
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 10669
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2011/02/10 09:40:19
    • Location: Censored!
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 44
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 11:54:30 (permalink)
    hoserx

    the voltage shown at idle is different than the load voltage... it will go up when utilized. 

    What he said. But mine is 1.013v at stock. Seems they're all different, depending on which batch they are.

    #5
    hoserx
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2862
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/02/15 21:00:31
    • Location: Ohio
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 4
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 12:30:29 (permalink)
    sorry subodai, I wasnt trying to insult you! Just covering all bases. 

    Asus Rampage IV Formula x79/ Core i7 3820 /16gb G Skill ddr3-2133mhz  / 2x EVGA GTX 680 /   Intel X-25m 80gb G2 + 120gb G2  / Corsair Force GT 120gb   /WD Caviar black 1TB  /WD Caviar green 500gb /Sound Blaster X-fi titanium fatal1ty / Corsair AX1200 /NZXT Switch 810 (white)/Corsair H100/ HP ZR30W 
     
    #6
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 12:46:32 (permalink)
    I know :) no worries. :P
     
    So you reckon that's the low limit?
    The graphs on precision show it at 1.013 even in high mode/ when in use
    #7
    EVGA_MatthewH
    Assistant Product Manager
    • Total Posts : 4238
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/03/16 15:48:27
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 2
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 12:51:07 (permalink)
    Voltages vary from card to card, its normal.

    Thanks,
    Matthew Hurwitz - Assistant Product Manager Matth@evga.com 
    Feel free to contact us with any questions, comments or concerns: Toll Free 888-881-3842 
    You can rate our service here: http://www.evga.com/myevga/rateus/

    #8
    HeavyHemi
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 9496
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
    • Location: Western Washington
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 47
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/15 13:16:03 (permalink)
    Subodai

    I know :) no worries. :P

    So you reckon that's the low limit?
    The graphs on precision show it at 1.013 even in high mode/ when in use

    1.15v is the BIOS limit (or 1.163 depending upon the BIOS). The cards vary in stock 3D GPU vid from 1.000v to 1.088v.

    EVGA E758/i7 980x 4.3ghz 1.36v
    12GB Corsair Dominator 2000C9
    SLI GTX Titan SC/ Gtx 650Ti PhysX
    Crucial M4 512GB SSD/2x WD RE4 Black 2TB 
    Corsair H50 Cooler/Corsair AX1200/Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    #9
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 00:12:22 (permalink)
    So what I'm asking is: if other vendors are recommending 1.050 or 1.150 for some.. why are these at stock so low?
     
    What SHOULD the voltage be to make these cards stable ? because battlefield just ISN'T having it.. and any word on that BIOS ?
    #10
    maniacvvv
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 9684
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/09/10 20:29:17
    • Location: Seattle WA
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 153
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 00:39:44 (permalink)
    If your running the cards at "stock clocks" then the voltage should be fine.
     
    Please post up your system specs so we can see what else might be going on
     
    With those cards there is no in-game graphics setting that would cause a crash -none-
    It must be either a config or driver issue, NOT stock VID voltage

     


    #11
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 01:15:06 (permalink)
    Hi maniac, thanks for the response.
     
    The crashes happen at stock, with stock volts, and even underclocked by 10Mhz and even underclocked by 50Mhz (following the BF3 forum advice). I tried pumping the volts since it's watercooled and that also doesn't seem to help.
     
    I have since stuck up the core to 801Mhz and tested it to be fine, this makes BF3 run a little better, but still get intermittent completely random Appcrashes.
     
    As for system spec:
    Abit IP35 Pro (love this board)
    Q6600 G0 Slacr @ 3Ghz
    8GB OCZ 8500 Ram
    OCZ 60GB SSD with latest firmware
    GTX580 3GB Hydro Copper
    CPU and GPU are both watercooled.
    PSU is a Coolermaster Realpower M850
    Windows 7 Prem 64bit
    I know this seems dated (because it is) but i get like 80+ fps most of the time in BF3 on ultra (no HBAO/MSAA) admittedly karkand has brought this down a bit.  

    I'm seeing peek temps on the card of around 75degC (after a few hours of intense gaming, inbetween appcrashes lol) this VERY quickly drops to around 45 once gaming stops (gotta love water) but true idle is in the low 30's i think. I do have a toasty warm house, but these seem okay?

     
    Tried the last 3 beta drivers from nVidia also, all seem to vary in the 'image quality' but still have random appcrashes. I'm aware this issue is ALL over the bf3 forums, and it's generally being ignored to be honest. So I thought I'd approach this forum (since it's not full of spammy trolls) before losing my rag with it :)
     
    Thanks again for reading I'm aware that's quite an epicly long reply
     
    post edited by Subodai - 2011/12/16 01:17:40
    #12
    maniacvvv
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 9684
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/09/10 20:29:17
    • Location: Seattle WA
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 153
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 01:26:53 (permalink)
    Hmmm
     
    Well running a Q6600 at 3.0ghz and a 580 is going to be very rough on the CPU, since you are running the game/GPU on only 3 threads.
     
    Its going to take careful attention to your NVCP and in-game settings to keep stressful game situations from "running over" your CPU performance envelope. This is probably the cause of the crashes, that or Audio driver overload. 
     
    First off, I suggest you use Nvidia driver 285.79
    Its very important that this driver be installed correctly (to rule out issues), so look over my Nvidia driver Guide before installing it, for the correct Uninstall/Install process http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1174372
     
    Next take a look over my BF3 Guide. Pay attention to the Audio section, NVCP settings and what in-game graphics settings can help keep your CPU use under control when it gets really stressful.
    http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1323124
     
    I would certainly suggest slightly lower MESH, EFFECTS and TERAIN DECORATION settings (to free up CPU resources)
     
    I do not think your issue has anything to do with videocard voltage.
    I do not have any experience with a Q6600 and the 775 MB's so I really dont know if it could be a BIOS issue with a voltage adjustment. (perhaps other users with experience will comment)
    My guess would be simply putting your CPU or Audio system under to much stress, both of which can be addressed with settings changes and/or by reducing background applications and processes
     
     
    *I am currently suffering from a broken root in one of my teeth, and I need to go to bed...
    But I will certainly try and help you personally with this issue over the weekend
    post edited by maniacvvv - 2011/12/16 01:45:21

     


    #13
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 01:41:55 (permalink)
    Oops yes, audio, Auzen X-Fi Prelude, which has all the X-RAM stuff, I forgot that sorry.
     
    When you say 3 threads, is there a specific reason it would be 3 and not 4, since it's a quad core?
    It doesn't look like the cpu is at 'max' usage (from task manager graph) and the performance is pretty exemplary for it's age.
     
    It doesn't stutter or slow down in ways other's have mentioend, apart from karkand, but the consensus seems to be that's happened for everyone.
     
    I'm on the 290 driver at the moment, (your guide is excellent I've been using that for every driver change) but will go through your guide this evening and try the 285.79 again.
     
    Is 'driversweeper' / 'drivercleaner' necessary ? I've seen that mentioned all over but not in your super guide?
    Edit: Just seen that it does, sorry! will go through in detail tonight and report back.
     
    Thanks!
     
    Again, thanks for your time, I appreciate it.
    post edited by Subodai - 2011/12/16 01:46:13
    #14
    maniacvvv
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 9684
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/09/10 20:29:17
    • Location: Seattle WA
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 153
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 01:48:00 (permalink)
    NP
     
    Its been a very long day and I perhaps might not be 100% right now...
    I will look this all over tomorrow after some rest. And I will have plenty of time this weekend to help you with getting BF3 100% stable

     


    #15
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 02:00:14 (permalink)
    Thanks Maniac that's great of you :)
    I'm in the UK so we'll have to sort a time which is convenient to you to chat properly.
    I'm considering a full, virgin install of windows 7 if I can't sort it out this weekend.
    #16
    maniacvvv
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 9684
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/09/10 20:29:17
    • Location: Seattle WA
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 153
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 02:03:31 (permalink)
    If you have a mic and TS3 we can meet up over the weekend on the EVGA channel bro, you can PM me
     
    Its doubtful a OS reinstall will be needed at all, just some minor "tuning"
     
    Goodnight and look forward to working with you 
    post edited by maniacvvv - 2011/12/16 02:07:36

     


    #17
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/16 13:43:58 (permalink)
    Okay went through your guide and did a driver cleanered install of the drivers you recommended, still got an appcrash :(
     
    #18
    Subodai
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 19
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/30 03:16:37
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:580 GTX 3GB Hydro Copper Voltages ? 2011/12/21 06:48:18 (permalink)
    Just to update you, I managed to sort this over the weekend. It turned out to be some incorrect RAM settings.
     
    Was using a lower settings/voltage than necessary, upped the voltages to what they should have been and sorted out the ram ratio thing and now it's running butter smooth :)
    #19
    Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile