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Our Team # is... 28262
  • Create a log in (Like you do here @ EVGA) (Link)
  • Go to your "Device Manager". Then Select "Device Profiles" and select what you want that profile to be. More details below (Link) There are many options. And you can have up to "Four" Profiles. This allows you to customize each computer (Quantity is unlimited) with four different production plans and causes.
  • Here is their "Official" (You have to be signed in to see them) installation instructions. Or you can follow them below...
  • Go to "Device statistics" (Right side of screen) install the program (Top right of your screen select download)
  • go back to your log in.....
  • After the Install, check the box to "Launch their BOINC Manager"
  • During the set up screens you will be asked to attach to a project...choose The World Community Grid
  • You will also be asked to sign in...use the name and pw that you used when registering for the WCG.
  • The BOINC client once installed will download work units from one of the ten available projects :
  • Once the BOINC manager downloads the work units and starts crunching them you can choose the Advanced settings. 
  • **Important** make sure you select or join our team if you wish to participate to the EVGA group! Additionally make sure you select the Country you wish to represent as it will show up on the tracker =]
  • Also keep in mind that it can take 24 hours before everything filters through the BOINC and WCG systems before you see any credit. Most of the time I see about a 12 hour ish delay. So do not panic
  • Go to the location where you downloaded the BOINC Windows Installer (it will be named something like: wcg_boinc_#.##.##_windows_intelx86.exe )
  • Double-click to run the installer, and follow the prompts that appear.

    Click "Run"
    Note: Please notice the Publisher is University of California, Berkeley



    Click "Next"



    Select "I accept the terms in the license agreement" and click "Next"



    Click "Next"
    If you would like to install the agent as a service, click advanced button. It is recommended to then check all 3 boxes.



    Click "Install"



    Click "Finish"
  • When the installer is finished, the BOINC Manager will run automatically, and should automatically log in you in to World Community Grid.
  • If the User Information dialog (below) appears, just enter your Member Name and Password, and click "Next"


  • You should be now be attached to the World Community Grid project.


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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 18:06:31 (permalink)
    To identify what projects that you want your device(s) to run you need to log into your WCG and click on your projects...
     
    This tells your WCG programs what to get and what to not get. Here are mine now (Soon to change)
     

     
     
     


    Additionally....
     
    Go to "Device profiles" (You need to be logged into your WCG online) and edit each computer. You can identify each computer as an individual name and select for the "Default" profile or one you built.... This is designed to allow you to "Create" profiles that you can assign to any and all of your computers... So one "Profile" can be created for one type of cause(s) and another can be for a different cause(s).

    And to take it even further... As WCG seems to use the workload/units worked in such a weird manner I recommend creating different profiles for different causes as well. This waty you could have one computer focus on one cause and not the others, yet have another computer work as many as you like...
     
     

     

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 18:06:36 (permalink)
    There are two views that this program offers... I prefer the Advanced one (Second one) and a simple click of the mouse moves you from one to the other...
     

     

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 18:10:49 (permalink)
     
    This is the site that we can see the team results...
     
    http://stats.free-dc.org/...oj=bwcg&team=28262
     
    Adding another important item in here...
     


     
     
    Many if not all that we process in a day are verified (And part of the reason for points delays or losses later on). And if there are any issue they will show up in your WCG log in
    • Highlight "My Grid" (Top middle tab)
    • Click "My Stats" (Drop down under My Grid)
    • "Results Status" (Left sidebar)(Link*Need to be logged in to see that*)
    • It is important to check that about once a week. Hate to have folks working so hard only to learn they have an issue they could have avoided...
    The "Results Status" page "Usually" processes the "Pending" ones in about 24-48 hours. It is not unusual for them to take up to a week. And as you do more and more... That number in pending will increase. But I have not seen it take more than a weeks time. I go by the dates once we use the filter to specifically look at any of the option it provides in the drop down.
     
    Basically I try and focus on these four and ignore pending...
     
    • Error
    • Invalid
    • Inconclusive
    • Late
    And some of the rest are out of our control, but I look anyway. That said in three years I have only seen one not be valid and all the rest (Other than processed and Pending) to be blank...
     
    You will Always see (depending on how many you have completed) a long list in the selection called "Pending". Do not panic. This is why I say never judge your production results in the first few days. Wait no less than four with zero changes to your habits (Or constant ones ) as these all need to be validated. As long as you are Crunching, you will always see your work in "Pending" until they are validated.
     
    This is one reason for there to only be two updates a day. One every 12 hours. As I understand it. Every Unit we crunch, is validated by another user, or visa virsa. And is why it can take up to a week for this validation. As not everyones systems are as fast as others... And not everyone logs in the the web every day .
     
    Now.... DO NOT PANIC... It is also my understanding that they give us the points after a set period of time "IF" the validation does not get completed in a timely manner. So you will always get credit. However, if once they do validate your unit and find it was incorrect or what have you, they will remove the points and it will (That Unit) be placed in one of the categories mentioned above... You will always know... Unlike F@H where you have to watch it like a hawk and need a good understanding of how and where to look... The BOINC/WCG program keeps track for you on their dime
     

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 18:22:06 (permalink)
     
    Nice write up AB.  I was looking into WCG, Einstein@ home, and Seti.
     
     

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 19:02:25 (permalink)
    ^^ Thanks man
     
    Additionally you can go into your preferences (WCG BOINC Manager on each computer) and adjust how much of the CPU it will use. On my gaming system I will select 80% so that two threads are available to game with =].
     
    By selecting the Network Usage tab you can also adjust how many days of work you want it to download. Mine is at two days now (Was four as seen in the pic). As I no-longer have internet issues (loss of connection). However this is great for folks with different needs... Say a laptop that is running but not connected to the web... It will crunch the daylights out of all it can (If downloaded) and it will hold all the completed projects in the pending folder... Once you go online it will download the completed crunches and get new ones. Keep in mind just like most all other projects they are timed. So if yo go past the allotted time you get no points as it was re-assigned to another member and they get the points...
     
    It is pretty self explanatory... But I am happy to help if I can with any questions...
     

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 19:26:27 (permalink)
    Great Job with the write-up.
     
    I'm just glad to be able to Keep this all "Still" Team EVGA endeavor. It's not EVGA's fault that PG is chasing some folders away from the FAH project.
     
     Let's make a noise here as well Is there a radar thingy
    post edited by shdbcamping - 2011/11/15 19:27:36

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 19:27:46 (permalink)
    If network bandwidth is an issue, you can also look at the "project requirements", which is a link on the project page above.  It shows you, for each project, the size of the initial program upload along with the size of the uploads and downloads for each unit of work.


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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 20:19:52 (permalink)
    joined, running 7 threads....  keeping my 460and ps3 with FAH for now....  
     
    Is there any way to get sigs made for this similar to the current ones?
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 22:06:05 (permalink)
    RHMash

    joined, running 7 threads....  keeping my 460and ps3 with FAH for now....  

    Is there any way to get sigs made for this similar to the current ones?

    Welcome!
     
    And anyone is welcome to research or make a thread for sigs...

     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/15 23:14:24 (permalink)
    I used to crunch 2 years ago. Fun times in the 8800 days.


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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 01:40:23 (permalink)
    In your profile section is the Create Widget link which is a sig that has a couple of options.
    https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewGetWidget.do




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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 06:23:55 (permalink)
    I'm in with you Fellas and the thing took off running before I could set my Team to WCG@EVGA.  So, I'm guessing that it will funnel my points into some Default bucket until a new set of jobs starts.  Is that correct?



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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 07:00:51 (permalink)
    Just created an account.  I'll download the client when I get home.  Thanks AB!


     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 07:11:05 (permalink)
    Crunching units on my laptop right now. I'll setup a client when I get home on my main machine. I'll leave the GPU's to folding right now.


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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 07:17:59 (permalink)
    I figured out the answer to setting my Projects to our Team once everything was installed.
     
    I clicked on the "Projects" tab, then selected (clicked) on the "World Community Grid" in the window (highlighted in the red box below).  Then, I clicked on the "Update" button.  It then completed the update and our Team was then showing under the "Account" column (whereas before it was blank).  Think I'm all set now.
     




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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 07:29:44 (permalink)
    That's one of the beauties of WCG - having the BOINC Manager there.  In advanced mode, you can configure so many things, like the hours to run, number and percentage of CPU to use, bandwidth limits, etc etc, and you really don't need to read any documentation. 
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 07:46:59 (permalink)
    I smell the Matrix or Skynet?
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 07:59:47 (permalink)
    I'm in.  Crunching on the work laptop right now.

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 08:00:04 (permalink)
    Punchy

    That's one of the beauties of WCG - having the BIONC Manager there.  In advanced mode, you can configure so many things, like the hours to run, number and percentage of CPU to use, bandwidth limits, etc etc, and you really don't need to read any documentation. 

     
    BOINC manager is pretty handy. There is also a console command that lets you do many of the same things the GUI client will do called boinccmd. In addition to that, configuration options can be set on the project website via different groups and the computers can be joined to those groups accordingly.
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 08:38:54 (permalink)
    I'll be setting this up as soon as I get home today.
     
    I'll leave GPU's on F@H and take my CPU's on to WCG

     
     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 08:40:14 (permalink)
    I might have to check this out!
     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 08:43:08 (permalink)
    If I need to stop all the Projects after the current ones complete, is there a way to do it (like the -oneunit command we all know from FAH)?  I see that I can set the client to stop processing a Project if the PC is "in use", but I'm wanting to know how to bring them to a close after each one completes their current task (if that is possible).
     
    Update:  Found the answer...it was sitting right before me on the BOINC Manager screen (the "No New Tasks" button).  Man this thing is easy to use and very customizable without needing a lot of technical knowledge!
    post edited by texinga - 2011/11/16 08:50:24



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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 08:47:45 (permalink)
    I'd like to see EVGA change the folding section to Distributed Computing section so we can get it in there.
    I'll be switching soon.

    Folding whatever I can :o)     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 08:51:07 (permalink)
    I agree Tank...that would be terrific.



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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 09:16:10 (permalink)
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    I'd like to see EVGA change the folding section to Distributed Computing section so we can get it in there.
    I'll be switching soon.

     
    +1 To this. I've been interested in SETI, if we had a distributed computing section we could pull all of this together

     
     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 10:01:13 (permalink)
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    tank1023

    I'd like to see EVGA change the folding section to Distributed Computing section so we can get it in there.
    I'll be switching soon.


    +1 To this. I've been interested in SETI, if we had a distributed computing section we could pull all of this together

    This is a great idea and was offered by EVGA to do something like that. The need however may be in the amount of users we have and the excitement level created to get this done.
     
    In about 16 hours we are already showing 17 members have joined up!!! But I bet they need to see closer to 100+ before they feel it is not a fad and has traction. Those are my words/thoughts not theirs.
     
    Hopefully a member of the EVGA staff (or more) will chime in as we grow with their thoughts on this

     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 11:30:22 (permalink)
    Wooo Whooo! They created a place for projects like these. Thank you EVGA!

     
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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 11:36:15 (permalink)
    Makes it a lot easier.  Now we need a sticky for How-To and helpful hints.

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    Re:WCG@EVGA info... 2011/11/16 13:08:14 (permalink)
    I could still use a bit of help understanding how to keep from receiving new Tasks (for the few occasions that I need to do it).  I have tried to follow the FAQ info from the WCG Forum shown in the link below, but every time a Task finishes, a new one loads.  This is all still new to me and probably something I'm not understanding yet.  I'd figured that if I have clicked the "No New Tasks" button and done the Update, that I would see my Tasks list eventually work down to zero, but that isn't happening.  It does say on the Projects tab, in the Status column, "Won't get new tasks", but it still is getting new tasks.
     
    http://www.worldcommunity...,24269_offset,0#212743
     



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