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Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:21 PM (permalink)
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:24 PM (permalink)
    Hahaha and people wonder why modern warfare doesn't get any better...
     

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:28 PM (permalink)
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    Hahaha and people wonder why modern warfare doesn't get any better...



    LOL WOW! Thats a bit of a difference right there! 

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:28 PM (permalink)
    yeah.... but the new consoles will be pure 1080p  and 3D ready and I will buy a new one as a result. So will millions of others... I find this more like a "If the world stayed the same form today forward" way of thinking instead of real life... "Change"... lol

     
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:32 PM (permalink)
    the never ending cycle. until we get into brain implants and fully holographic worlds we will always have this race where the pc and console are close performance wise then, by the EOL of the console, then PC has passed it many times fold.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:56 PM (permalink)
    I was just making a post about this on www.evga.com/gaming.  Great find!

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:06 PM (permalink)
    by the time new consoles are out the pc hardware is way ahead.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:02 PM (permalink)
    According to the chart, about 2x ahead. o.0;
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:04 PM (permalink)
    PC FTW!!!


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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:36 PM (permalink)
    For me, I'll always stay with the PC, ofc sometimes consoles gaming is better (I personally liked the Splinter Cell Double Agent PS2 version WAAAAAAAAY better than the PC version, also some console exclusives that I like to play), but I'll always stick to the pc


     
     
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:40 PM (permalink)
    Forget Consoles most of the guys that play that are not too swift or end up in Jail lmao doh. Once I found out PC's played better and took more thinking I said were do i sign up.
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:01 PM (permalink)
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    Forget Consoles most of the guys that play that are not too swift or end up in Jail lmao doh. Once I found out PC's played better and took more thinking I said were do i sign up.
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:24 PM (permalink)
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    yeah.... but the new consoles will be pure 1080p  and 3D ready and I will buy a new one as a result. So will millions of others... I find this more like a "If the world stayed the same form today forward" way of thinking instead of real life... "Change"... lol


    True to that!
    I been watching the PS4 stuff on facebook. console looks awesome but even though ill buy ill still be a pc gamer.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 0:21 PM (permalink)
    yea usually when new consoles come out they are equal to a decent gaming PC BUT when the next newest batch of PC hardware comes out the console is now obsolete because the console parts can't be swapped out!!! PC power will ALWAYS be equal(for a couple months) or greater than console.........But the biggest deal breaker is the games. Devs could simply walk away from PC and get into consoles then the top shelf PC hardware is now a paper weight...

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 1:31 AM (permalink)
    I've known all along that Console has been holding back PC Gaming
     
    Games are Coded to run in DX9 on console, then ported to PC still in DX9.... (some like Crysis 2 were upgraded to DX11, but most games were not)

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 7:23 AM (permalink)
     
    At this time, consoles are the economical choice for PC illiterate gamers. <<< This alone is what keeps consoles alive.
     
     

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 1:55 PM (permalink)
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    At this time, consoles are the economical choice for PC illiterate gamers. <<< This alone is what keeps consoles alive.

    True, but the price for PC gaming parts has dropped significantly. You can build a mid range gaming PC for about $400 so they're running out of excuses.

     
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 2:29 PM (permalink)
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    I sure hope this is true!

    http://www.pcper.com/news...le-Gaming-Revenue-2015


    Considering PC gaming has been putting consoles to shame since.... how about "forever?" -- yes, ... since always, it's no surprise. Only console fans think the console ever threatened PCs. It never has and never will.
     
    The thing about console sales is they often fudge the stats and the numbers. There's a plethora of fly-by-night cookie cutter clone games that sell for $5 each but are absolute trash. They reuse the same code over and over (often times re-using Mortal Kombat or some such) and just paste the latest movie's graphics over the top.
     
    These games suck and blow at the same time and nobody plays them for more than a few minutes, but millions of them are made, so they count that in console sales.
     
    If they just tallied a nice sampling of the major titles, it's no contest (unless you start counting titles ONLY released on consoles like some HALO games, etc).
     
    So, in the end PCs have never been behind consoles as far as gaming. They (the consoles) only like to claim that by fudging facts and making up numbers to justify their own profit margins. I'm not "against" consoles per se... I don't like them as much as PC gaming personally, but what I hate is how they (mis)represent themselves and the overall market to further their own agenda.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 2:34 PM (permalink)
    If someone marketed a $500 computer that could beat out game consoles I'm sure a major trend will start.  The problem is prebuilds for gamers have this terrible premium cost and its what turns people away from PC gaming.  Change that premium cost by using older gen or lower end tech and it could be a major market.
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 2:47 PM (permalink)
    If consoles weren't made by the GAME producers/labels themselves, and sold for a massive loss which was intended to be recouped by sales from games, then they would cost $1000 or more.
     
    The only reason they are economical is because the game labels are running both sides, whereas software/hardware are separate industries with regards to PCs and don't pool profits/losses.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 5:55 PM (permalink)
    I've talked to a lot of average people that are into console gaming, and most of them don't even realize you can game on a PC. Others are surprised to find that PCs can run games much better than consoles, because game consoles are made primarily for gaming. Computers need to become economical and worth it for the average gamer. It needs to be convenient, and it needs to be marketed in their faces as strong as consoles are.
     
    If for $500, you could buy a system that can run games on high settings, pre-built, with mouse, keyboard, speakers...Preloaded with Steam, and important instructions for the gamer to create a Steam account and setup their information so they can start buying and downloading games online...You could have a really nice way to boost PC gaming.
     
    I think what it'll take at this point is for integrated graphics to become much more powerful...Though already you could probably build a $500 PC that can play most games on high with at least 30 FPS. Console gamers are used to 30 FPS anyway! And it'd only get better from there. I bet by 2014-2015, we'll have the capability for even better.

         
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 6:44 PM (permalink)
    There's also the fact that PCs allow for more than just gaming. You get full multimedia, interactive web, media, you get audio setup (itunes, or whatever, docking your ipod, etc), as well as gaming, as well as word processing, as well as work and video editing, etc.
     
    So you spend $500 for one machine that games... Then you spend $500 more for a laptop that you use for e-mail, typing, personal use. Or you get every function a PC can perform for 1 price and now own a machine that can do anything you ask of it, instead of just "run games or movies on your TV"...
     
    Again, it's false numbers. A console doesn't cost only $500, and a PC doesn't just "cost more" -- you have to ask what you're getting for what you're paying. If the PC replaces 3,4,5 other machines, at 50% of the total of all those machines, but you take a single component, say a PS3, and compare to a PC it's a false comparison.
     
    There never has been a comparison. Like I said, only console fans or promoters think consoles EVER threatened PCs in any way. The only threat they give to PC gamers is the trickle-down effect of low-quality game design. Console ports, etc, suck compared to full PC designs. Just things like mouse clicks, 104 keys, fully scalable graphics, etc.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 7:00 PM (permalink)
    Pretty big gap on that chart lol

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 7:08 PM (permalink)
    Forecasts are based on current and historical trends, they couldn't possibly take what will be into account.
     
    I don't think it means what we we think it means, i.e. not a matter of popularity biased by our love for it.  Because the prediction is based on revenue predictions, it can clue into a combination of inflation or rising unit prices.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 9:00 PM (permalink)
    Sumazi If for $500, you could buy a system that can run games on high settings, pre-built, with mouse, keyboard, speakers...Preloaded with Steam, and important instructions for the gamer to create a Steam account and setup their information so they can start buying and downloading games online...You could have a really nice way to boost PC gaming.
    You could do a laptop and have it run similar settings to what the consoles do and achive similar results without having to lay down cash for a TV.
     
    For example, you could do something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215105 and have it set at low to medium graphics settings for many different games in DX9 and net 30fps or more which would be comparable to the consoles out today. Is it something considered ideal? No, not really. But i think it is more of a copout in general since most would choose to be ignorant rather than become educated and in no way are brick and mortar sales people obligated to perform that function assuming they have the knowledge to do so.
     
    Although for argument sake, if you decided to lay down 100-250 dollars more for a system either laptop or desktop, you could get something so much nicer by comparison to either console or what i referenced. Doubling that cost, you would have something that would run most everything at medium to high settings for a few years to come rather than rebuying a low end system every couple years to keep pace with the minimum requirements.
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Friday, September 23, 2011 11:47 PM (permalink)
    Yah, not sure what they mean, I think a large reason console is popular is because it's an easy button. Some don't know anything accept to push it, some do know a lot technically and don't want to deal with anything, just come home and push it. I just don't see that changing much in it's popularity between the two.
     
    I personally would rather be able to upgrade my system and build it, not have to pay subscriptions, and have the best gaming experience possible, as strange as that may sound.

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Saturday, September 24, 2011 3:36 AM (permalink)
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    Yah, not sure what they mean, I think a large reason console is popular is because it's an easy button. Some don't know anything accept to push it, some do know a lot technically and don't want to deal with anything, just come home and push it. I just don't see that changing much in it's popularity between the two.

    I personally would rather be able to upgrade my system and build it, not have to pay subscriptions, and have the best gaming experience possible, as strange as that may sound.

     
    amen.......I think microsoft and sony have found its easier to make something that lets people be lazy and PC illiterate because they make people think PC's arent meant for gaming. What people tend to forget is, how are console games made??? By a PC!!!!!  I grew up always wanting to have a PC that could play video games but unfortunately my dad felt it was too expensive(at the time prices were high) so I had to wait til I was just out of high school! I would hate to see it all die because of a little machine that gets outdated quicker(usually in about a year)

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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Saturday, September 24, 2011 4:27 AM (permalink)
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    Yah, not sure what they mean, I think a large reason console is popular is because it's an easy button. Some don't know anything accept to push it, some do know a lot technically and don't want to deal with anything, just come home and push it. I just don't see that changing much in it's popularity between the two.

    I personally would rather be able to upgrade my system and build it, not have to pay subscriptions, and have the best gaming experience possible, as strange as that may sound.


    amen.......I think microsoft and sony have found its easier to make something that lets people be lazy and PC illiterate because they make people think PC's arent meant for gaming. What people tend to forget is, how are console games made??? By a PC!!!!!  I grew up always wanting to have a PC that could play video games but unfortunately my dad felt it was too expensive(at the time prices were high) so I had to wait til I was just out of high school! I would hate to see it all die because of a little machine that gets outdated quicker(usually in about a year)

     
    The thing with consoles is that the consoles are made for CASUAL gamers
     
    Which are - just insert the DVD, power-up the console and lets go, also when you're feeling lazy, I mean I had a PS2, whenever I felt like I wanted to play FIFA for instance, I didn't even have to get out of bed
     
    With consoles there is no BS with the CPU's, graphics cards, drivers, instalations and so on
     
    Thats the better part of the consoles....


     
     
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:35 AM (permalink)
    The problem isn't when the console is new, it's 4 years down the road when they're still flogging it to the public with no spec changes. The minute they make a console upgradable and moddable pc-gaming will be in trouble. I don't see that happening though for seveal reasons.
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    Re:PC Gaming to surpass Consoles by 2015 Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:17 AM (permalink)
    Long live PC gaming.
     
    Consoles are garbage, always have been always will be.

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