The EVBot - The Force Unleashed

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When the EVBot debuted, I wasn't sure if I wanted to buy one.  I've been using Eleet successfully for quite some time, as a number of you know.  Changing settings in the BIOS is also very easy with the EVGA X58's and P55's.  So, why use this device?  Well, the one thing that did appeal to me is that the EVBot does not require software to use while benching, which actually reduces time to get benches going, and avoids messing up resources by opening and closing programs prior to benching.  I wasn't really aware of the purpose of the Opt Booster until I had a chance to look over the features, so I'm very interested in testing out this feature at a future date. However, I still decided to get the EVBot, and so far, I really like it. There were more options in the menus than I expected, but we'll get to that later.
 
I'd like to cover a dismissal I see from a lot of people regarding the EVBot.  Specifically, "Overclocking in the BIOS is best.  This is just a gimmick."  Well, this statement is both true and false.  It's true, because setting everything in the BIOS is better.  For the majority of overclockers, this is absolutely the best advice, as you will find more stability when booting up at your desired speeds.  However, it's false because these people have clearly never learned how to get the most out of their system.  If you take a look at the top benchmark scores in the world, do you really think they boot to those settings?  Setting your overclock in the BIOS only goes so far.  Eventually the motherboard will no longer post, or Windows will not boot.  This is where top overclockers begin to rely on software tools like Eleet or SetFSB to boot into Windows at a lower overclock, then use these tools to overclock to those rarefied heights in the overclocking world.  Only recently have motherboard manufacturers begun using tools that overclock at a hardware level to help its customers outperform the competition.  EVBot is the newest tool in this new generation of overclocking gadgets.  
 
Before I begin, I'd like to point out that EVGA bears no responsibility for what is in this guide.  My words and opinions are my own and should not be construed as any official statement or guide from EVGA.  
 
So, let's begin by unboxing the EVBot and taking a look at what comes with it.  If you have any questions regarding your EVBot, or need technical assistance, registering the EVBot at EVGA will help EVGA Technical Support help you faster and better.  I included a few pics so anyone looking for a serial number or part number could see where they're located on the box and the EVBot unit:
 
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The Disc contains the user manual, the Windows Firmware flashing Utility for both the X58 and P55 boards, and a number of helpful links to EVGA Web pages:
 
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The User Manual contains a lot of helpful information, including a feature and button layout, firmware flashing directions, and a color coded guide to locating where to install the cable to your motherboard or GTX285 Classified:
 
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Here's a quick pic of the cables that came with the unit.  3 red cables for the video cards and 1 black cable for the motherboard, cleanly packaged:
 
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Now that everything has been removed, it's time to install this bad boy.  First, you need to figure out which motherboard you have.  Then take a look at the installation guide to find the pins you'll plug in the black motherboard cables.  These pictures are of the EVGA Classified E760:
 
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And from the darkness, we 'ave a contendah!
 
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So, that's what you should expect when you open up your EVBot.  Time to take a look under the hood and check out the menus.

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 08:55:21 (permalink)
    In this post, I'm going to cover some of the basic Motherboard screens and concentrate on the Voltage menus.  This will be short, as the Voltage menu lists only many of the same voltage features you can change in the BIOS.  However, I can, upon request, add more screens of the voltages.
     
    These settings are for the X58 Classified E760 only.  You may have additional or different settings with a P55 board or any other future products that are compatible with the EVBot.
     
    So, after clicking the "OK" button from the previous screen, you're taken to the main menu.  Here, you'll choose to head into either your motherboard or any of your attached GTX285 Classifieds settings.  Since I have only a motherboard compatible with the EVBot, we're only going to take a look at what's available here:
     
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    Ultimately, there are 9 different voltage settings for you to adjust.  You will have to change the settings one at a time before overclocking. I strongly suggest you review FreeMortal's X58 Voltage Guide, which covers each voltage setting in depth: *link*
     
    Here's a look at all of the voltages you can change in the BIOS with the E760 version of the X58 Classified:
     
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    If you were wondering what the CPU Vcore screen looks like, here you go.  In order to change the voltage, you simply move the "Up" and "Down" arrows to your preference.  Click the "OK" button, click the "OK" button again to confirm, wait half a second, and the voltages will change.
     
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    As I said, I can add more pictures of the individual voltage screens if you guys want them.  Next up, the Clocks menu!

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 08:55:34 (permalink)
    Time for the Clocks menus.  With the possible exception of the Voltages menu, this is going to be the place you spend most of your time for overclocking the motherboard.  I don't really want to go into overclocking theory here, but I will explain the settings a little bit. I will point out that you cannot use the EVBot solely for all overclocking settings.  There are many settings that must be set in the BIOS, saved, and rebooted to be used.  This rules out using the EVBot for settings such as RAM timings and straps, MCH Strap, PWM and VTT frequencies.  However, once those have been set in the BIOS, there's plenty of fun to be had with the EVBot.
     
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    First of all, this is the CPU Host Frequency.  People also call this the bclck, short for "base clock."  For those familiar with Socket 775 motherboards, you'd think of this as the Front Side Bus, or "FSB," although they are significantly different.  This setting is primarily what you'll be using for overclocking.  In order to calculate your CPU speed, you'll need to multiply the CPU Host Frequency with your CPU Multiplier.  For example, a CPU Host Frequency at 200mhz with a CPU multiplier of 21x equals 4200mhz, or 4.2ghz.  If you are unclear on how this works, please take a look at these guides:
     
    shansmi's How To OC the i7 guide.
    linuxrouter's Memory Frequency Guide.
     
    There are, of course, other good guides on the web, but these guides will more than help you get started.
     
    As with any of these settings, you'll press the EVBot "Up" and "Down" buttons to change the value for the settings, click the "OK" button once to enter the setting, then a second time to confirm and set your desired speed.
     
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    Next is the PCI-E Frequency.  This can be important to opening up the overclocking on your board, so a PCI-E overclock to 105mhz, will likely be needed to get over a 200mhz CPU Host Frequency.  The higher you can raise it, the more overhead you can have for overclocking.  This can also potentially improve video card performance, but it's not guaranteed, and if you do get increased performance, it isn't usually by much.  However, by raising the PCI-E Frequency, you run the risk of either causing peripherals to go "missing," such as your NIC, or causing your hard drives to disappear at startup.  This lasts only until you lower your PCI-E Frequency and start over.  Moderation and careful testing is recommended, but this is definitely a setting you will want to play around with when you hit a wall.  In my opinion, this is a setting you should initially set in BIOS, rather than use the EVBot, although I have yet to test any serious overclocking with the EVBot and this setting.
     
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    CPU Clock Skew can sometimes be a fun setting to play around with.  The CPU Clock Skew sets the latency for the CPU to the domain controllers so that the CPU and domain controllers stay in harmony.  On Socket 775 boards, this setting was very important, as overclocking the FSB can cause the skew to become unbalanced between domain controllers (think of domain controllers as kind of an information node), causing there to be a higher latency on the other domain controller, which can induce instability.  For example, as the FSB gets higher and higher, the latency between the CPU and one of the domain controllers will get smaller, but the speed between the CPU and the other domain controller will remain the same.  By altering the CPU skew, you can either advance or delay the latencies between the CPU and the domain controllers so that the latencies are pulled back in line.  Doing so, can greatly enhance stability.  Some boards need postive skew, others need negative skew.  You'll just have to play with this setting to find out.
     
    However, unlike the Socket 775 boards, the Socket 1366 and 1156 boards do a lot of the skew balancing at bootup through the CPU's Integrated Memory Controller ("IMC"), which makes this setting less important.  By setting the clock gens at bootup (now you're thankful for that P55 double bootup, right?), the boards really do most of the work for you.  Once you start significantly overclocking the board, however, you may need to adjust the skew, as you are no longer using the skew set at boot.  Basically, don't really worry about this setting unless you're heading well over a 200mhz CPU Host Frequency, overclocking past your boot settings, and planning on using sub-zero cooling.  That doesn't mean you shouldn't experiment if you don't meet those qualifications, but this setting will not greatly affect your overclock.  If you'd like a place to start for 1366 i7's, consider a +300ps skew at first, as that seems to be a good place to start.
     
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    CPU Amplitude, or CPU Differential Amplitude, is another setting similar to CPU Clock Skew.  This setting is normally also set by the board at bootup through the IMC.  Whereas CPU Clock Skew affects the various frequencies between the CPU and domain controllers, CPU Amplitude affects the differential mode gain, which can combat against common mode "noise."  If I understand this correctly, this setting can further fine-tune the CPU Clock Skew signal by controlling the voltage to the clock gen, which can mitigate noise on the skew frequency.  Again, this was a setting that could affect stability on Socket 775 boards, but is much less important on the 1366 and 1156 boards.
     
    I could explain this a bit more technically here, but really all you need to know is that CPU Amplitude is, like CPU Clock Skew, something you don't really need to mess with unless running higher than 200mhz, running well outside your boot settings, and running under sub-zero cooling.  This is another setting you'll need to experiment with, as a higher amplitude can help, but a low amplitude can sometimes positively affect your overclock.  Again, it comes down to experimenting with your board and CPU to determine if this setting helps you.
     
    Note:  If you google this term, there's really not a lot about it.  You may come across a thread on the DFIclub website, regarding a DFI X38 board and several posts by Raja, discussing CPU Differential Amplitude.  Raja has since informed me that the information in that thread is somewhat less than accurate.  Instead, the CPU Differential Amplitude is actually more in line with my description above.  Remember, do not equate the importance of CPU Amplitude on the Socket 775 boards with its use on the Socket 1366 or 1156.
     
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    Now it's time to cover the most unique feature of the EVBot:  The Opt Booster!

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 08:55:50 (permalink)
    The next section of the Motherboard menu is the Opt Booster.  Quite simply, this is the most unique feature of the EVBot.  I'll point out now that the Opt Booster really has no functionality for 24/7 usage.  If you have no interest in benching, then you can probably skip this post.  However, if you are benching or interested in starting benching, then this is something you'll definitely want to use and master.  
     
    The Opt Booster feature allows you to run a small on-the-fly overclock that raises your CPU Host Frequency speed for a set number of seconds, then lowers the speed to your "real" overclock for a few seconds.  This process will last until either you ask it to stop by pressing the "C" or "Cancel" button, or, well, when your system crashes from a bad overclock.  This feature is designed to help you squeak by those situations where your overclock is almost stable enough, but not quite stable enough to finish the benchmark.
     
    For example, say you're stable at one speed for running a Super Pi 32m bench.  However, say that you "know" you can drag a few more mhz out of your CPU, but you always seem to crash towards the end of the run.  What the Opt Booster can do is allow you to run part of the 32M run in your stable speed, but let the other part of the run rise to a faster speed for a few seconds, then drop it back to your safe speed so your cpu can "rest."  The Opt Booster gives you 10 preconfigured settings, and one Custom menu to create your own pattern, up to a 9mhz bclck for 9 seconds, then a 9mhz bclck cooldown for up to 9 seconds. 
     
    For anyone that has an EVBot already and is itching to try it, this setting increases and decreases immediately, not over a period of seconds; the period of time relates to how long the overclock will stay active and how long the cooldown speed lasts.  The Opt Booster will raise your RAM speed as well, so you'll need to ensure your RAM can handle the overclock.  To give you the idea of what these menus look like, here you go:
     
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    Level 7
     
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    Level 9
     
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    Level 10
     
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    Here we have the custom setting.  As I mentioned earlier, you can use this to create your own profile.  Obviously, you'll have to test with your system to determine which setting works best with your overclock.  Since even the best profile can throw off a new overclock, you will likely need to constantly change any custom profile you make.  Fortunately, it's very simple.  First, you go into the custom menu, use the "Up" and "Down" buttons to find the setting you'd like to change, and then click "OK."  This will highlight the box you selected, and you'll use the "Up" and "Down" buttons to raise or lower the number the speed or seconds.  Finally, click "OK" to confirm the setting. 
     
    Now, just do that for the rest of the speeds or seconds you want to change.
     
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    I can't wait to try this out next time I have some Dice to play with.  
    Now, on to the last setting in the Motherboards menu, the H/W Monitor....  

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 08:56:04 (permalink)
    As we reach the final Motherboard option, the H/W Monitor is pretty much exactly what you'd expect.  Unfortunately, it's not quite as useful as you might hope for.  I'll explain the contradiction in a moment.
     
    The H/W Monitor displays information on your CPU temperature, the Vreg temperature, your CPU vcore voltage, and your CPU speed.  However, the only way to get this information is to have Eleet running and polling to the EVBot.  So, if you're running a benchmark, you will need to have Eleet running in the background to use this feature, which is usually not what you want.  However, it is still a useful tool and gives you the information you need.   So, let's show you how to access the information:
     
    First, you'll want to go to the last feature in the Motherboard section, H/W Monitor.  
     
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    Once you get in this menu, you'll notice that it remains blank.  After a few seconds, it will either update to your speeds, or it will ask you to run ELEET.
     
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    At this point you'll need to open up Eleet.  You'll need to update to the latest version of ELEET, or v. 1.06.5, at the minimum.  If you don't have the latest, you will not have access to the polling option needed for the H/W Monitor.  To check what version you have, look on the first tab in Eleet and the area I've circled.  You can always find the latest update for EVGA ELEET by logging into your profile at the EVGA Forums, and then going to http://www.evga.com/eleet/.
     
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    On this next screen we see.....oh....looks like there's a potential 2 extra cores grayed out.  Hmm....I wonder what that could be for.....
     
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    Finally, we get to the screen we need.  Here on the "Option" page, we see a new option for "Poll HW Monitor to EVBot."  Check this box and we should be good to go.
     
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    I added some CPU-Z tabs to for a more accurate comparison....
     
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    And here's what pops up on the EVBot.
     
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    Perfect. 
     
    Now that we have this section covered, I'll do a little overclocking demonstration a bit later, but I want to finish the features by briefly showing you the GPU section.

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 08:56:14 (permalink)
    The GPU section.  Now, I'm warning you in advance, this section is going to be pretty scarce, as I do not have a compatible GPU for this section.  If anyone with a GTX 285 Classified and an EVBot wants to take some good quality pictures of the GPU screens in action, I'll be more than happy to post them here and give credit.  Otherwise, I only have a few screens for you until that time.
     
    The GPU section allows you to modify four settings:  the Vcore voltage, VPLL, VDD, and the VDDQ.  All are related to the voltages, and you will still have to overclock the speeds through a utility like EVGA's Precision, which you can find here: http://www.evga.com/precision/.
     
    So, here's what you'll find:
     
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    Vcore:  This setting will raise and lower the voltage to your GPU core.  This setting will be the most sensitive and importantvoltage for overclocking your GPU Core and your shaders.
     
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    VPLL:  This setting will raise and lower the voltage to the internal clock generator on the GPU.
     
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    VDD:  This setting is primarily used for overclocking Memory.
     
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    VDDQ:  This setting is also primarly used for overclocking Memory.
     
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    I will point out one important feature that people with 4-way SLI setups are concerned about: namely, the EVBot has only 3 GPU slots, when 4-way SLI uses 4 cards.  This, actually, is a non-issue.  After setting your voltages with your three cards, simply pull the EVBot cable out of one of the cards, attach it to the fourth card, and use the EVBot to overclock the voltages on that card.  The voltage settings will stay active until your system reboots, so you do not need to worry about the EVBot being attached during your benching run.    
     
    So now that we've got the menus covered, let's do a short little overclocking feature. 

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 08:56:21 (permalink)
    As I said in the beginning, I'm not going to do an overclocking guide here.  There are longer, more in-depth, and better guides on the EVGA forums for this sort of thing.   
     
    Instead, I'm going to simply demonstrate a small overclock to speeds and settings I already know is a stable overclock FOR MY SYSTEM (YMMV).  You must also remember that unlike BIOS overclocking, you cannot change the RAM divider in Windows.  If your divider is too high, you can end up running out of room to overclock, as the RAM speed will be too high and crash or lockup the system.  Your overclocking experience with your system will undoubtedly be different than mine, and you may need to do far more voltage manipulating to achieve your desired overclock.  Please do not consider these settings as a guide or safe to try for your system. 
     
    So, with that disclaimer out of the way, let's be about it.  First up is to remind us where my speeds are at - 3351mhz at a 160mhz bclck, at 1.22vcore voltage.  Let's try a minor overclock to 3603mhz at a 172mhz bclck, at 1.2375vcore voltage.  We need to first check our speeds: 
     
    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/eleet3.png

     
    Ok, with that confirmed, let's move on to changing the settings.  First I want to change the voltages.  Here, I know that I only need 1.2375v. vcore (I can actually use much lower, but this is for demonstration purposes) to achieve a higher speed, so I'll increase the voltage:
     
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    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/bot66.jpg

     
    I just raise the vcore using the "Up" button, click "OK," where it asks me to confirm, which I do.  It asks me to wait, then says "ok," indicating that I've successfully raised the voltages.  We're done here.
     
    Time to move to the Clocks.  First, I hit the "C," or the cancel button, twice to go back to the Motherboard menu.  Select the Clocks menu and head to the CPU Host Frequency menu:
     
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    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/bot67.jpg

     
    As above, once you get to the CPU Host Frequency menu, change the bclck to 172mhz by pressing the "Up" button several times, click the "OK" button to select, then click the "OK" button to confirm, wait a second for the clocks to update, and we're there. 
     
    Now, we just want to confirm that we've got the clocks correct:
     
    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/bot68.jpg

    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/bot69.png

     
    Well, congratulations to me.  I successfully overclocked this system to 3.6ghz.
     
    Now, if I plan on benching at this speed in the future and want to come back to this speed and voltages, I don't really want to go through all the menus again.  So, what I'll do is save this to one of the profiles on the EVBot.  You can choose up to 4 profiles to save and load profiles.  With the latest firmware, P02, the profiles are handled directly through the 4 Profile buttons on the EVBot. 
     
    First, here's the profile buttons located at the middle of the EVBot:
     
    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/profile1.jpg

     
    Now, we'll click Profile 1 to bring up the option menu, and we'll start by saving the profile:
     
    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/profile2.jpg

     
    Just click your way through the menu using the "OK" buttons:
     
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    We have successfully saved that profile.  Now, we can quickly and easily load the profile when we want to do some benching.  Now, "how's that?" you say?  Well, here's how you load the profile:
     
    Start by clicking the Profile button, which, in this case, is Profile 1.  Now just head to the Load menu.
     
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    Like before, just use the "OK" button to get through the menus:
     
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    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/nordicjedi/profile9.jpg

     
    And now the settings are loaded, and I can get on with my benching.  I would highly recommend taking very high overclocks in steps when using profiles, rather than try to suddenly jump 600mhz-1000mhz at once.  If you need to daisy-chain your profiles, do it, but it will lead to fewer random crashes prior to benching.
     
    We've come to the end of the features on the EVBot.  I won't, however, leave you without my impressions on this impressive overclocking tool in my last post.  

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 08:56:39 (permalink)
    I'd like to close this guide with my impressions on the EVBot.  I wasn't initially going to do this, but as I've spent far more time with this utility than I initially expected, I may as well let you guys know what I think of it.
     
    First and foremost, I'd like to thank Raja for taking quite some time explaining the CPU Clock Skew and the CPU Amplitude to me. I managed to corral him in a chat room early one morning and he was more than gracious to take up a substantial chunk of his time explaining these features and answering my questions.  I'd also like to thank him for granting me his permission to quote/paraphrase him on his explanations.  This guide would likely have been put off for several more days trying to figure this out on my own (and probably a lot less accurate, too). 
     
    Second, I'd like to thank Shamino and Jacob for their prompt responses and for giving me some guidance in the GPU section regarding the voltages. 
     
    Lastly, I'd like to emphasize again that EVGA did not ask me to write this guide, nor should anything I say here be construed as coming from EVGA.  These are my opinions only.
     
    Here's how I see the EVBot.  This is a tool for benchers and overclockers who are trying to get their best benchmarks or clock speeds.  This is not designed for the person who is seeking only a 24/7 overclock.  This really isn't going to help that.  It's not worth the extra money to buy this, when you can overclock or make minimal changes in the BIOS, Eleet, or the EVGA Voltage Tuner.  This is for those who are looking for something extra, to push beyond their current limits for benching.  If you're already heavily invested in cooling solutions and hardware to post the best benchmarks available, then this is the tool for you.  If you can't stand the thought of being only 100 points away from a new personal record, then this is the tool for you.    If youdo decide that an EVBot is for you, before you purchase an EVBot, please make sure your hardware is compatible with the EVBot.  You can find the compatibility list here: *link*.
     
    Pro's
     
    • Very, very, very easy to use.  Making your way through menus is a piece of cake.  The buttons are responsive and do what they're designed to do. 
    • This tool can push your benches to a new level.  No BS here.  Use of the Opt Booster can give you those few extra mhz you need in a bench that can be the difference between a good bench and a great bench. 
    • The thing just works.  This shouldn't be considered a positive, as we all expect the things we buy to "just work."  As some people consider this a gimmick, you might expect that one thing or another would fail to work.  Well, with this unit, and I stress that it's a retail unit and not a review sample, I did not have an issue with using the overclocking features or voltage features. 
    • Flashing the firmware is simple, the software is readily available from http://www.evga.com/evbot/.  
    • You cannot brick this unit by flashing the firmware.  God knows I've tried, and I nearly succeeded, but I was able to bring this back to life and re-flash the firmware. 
    • The ability to set Profiles.  Simple, fast, and easy to save and load.  Makes all that time you spent trying out settings pay off.  The only way this would be better is if you could name the profile, or have it show you several settings to distinguish one profile from another. 
    • This device will be usable on future products.  EVGA already has a large number of motherboards and a video card that works with this device.  Although EVGA cannot comment on unreleased products, support appears to be easily added. 
    Con's
     
    • The H/W Monitor is limited and can only be used while polling to Eleet.  It would be nice if you could monitor more objects or didn't require Eleet, but it's a limitation of the SMBus that can't be helped. 
    • The EVBot is very sensitive to other polling programs.  When using other polling programs, an attempted voltage or overclock may fail to apply or the H/W Monitor may lose connection with Eleet.  This is easily solved by using only Eleet or CPUZ, but a minor annoyance, nonetheless.  
    • Limited compatibility with current motherboards/video cards.  Yes, I know I listed this as a "pro," but it is also a con for the opposite reason.  People with the standard X58 boards and lower-end P55's cannot use this tool.  Currently, there is only one compatible video card.  When new cards release later this year, it won't be surprising if EVGA creates a few special cards to make use of the EVBot, but it's scarce now. 
    • Price.  The price is pretty steep if you're just a casual user/overclocker.  For benchers, this tool is quite handy, and works quite well.  The target market really isn't the guy going for a 3.6ghz overclock on an i7 or i5, but the guy going for 5ghz or higher.  For this reason, it will not appeal to everyone. 
    • It doesn't overclock the board on its own.  I'm not sure what excuse EVGA wants to use here, but I'm pretty sure EVGA and Agent Tiny could have embedded a sophisticated AI in the EVBot to overclock for us.  Instead, we still have to overclock these boards and cards on our own.  And you cannot answer calls with it (see video). 
     
    This leads to the essential question: where does it balance out in the final tally?  Well, I listed a lot of cons, but, to be honest, I'm just nit-picking. This device is amazing.  Anyone who's been involved in benching sessions with subzero cooling, such as Dice or liquid nitrogen knows that you're racing against time to get in all your benching before your cooling evaporates.  This tool saves time.  No software needed to change settings, no need to reboot to change many settings in the BIOS, and it takes only seconds to plug in and be ready to go.  For higher performing benching tools, you expect to pay a pretty penny for pretty much all your needs, including Dice/LN2 pots, digital thermometers, bench tables, etc.  This is just one more tool that will help you get those extra few mhz that you can't get otherwise.  This tool is designed for the high-end boards in EVGA's line-up, not the more mainstream ones.  Granted, while some might be upset that they cannot use this tool with the more mainstream X58 and P55 boards, the EVBot's entire purpose is for the high-end bencher, who is more likely to have the equipment to take advantage of a tool like the EVBot.  Frankly, I love the EVBot; not quite as much as Agent Tiny, but pretty darn close to it. 
     
    So why should the weekend warrior purchase the EVBot - that guy looking for a slightly higher overclock when benching, who isn't going for 5ghz or some ridiculous overclock?  Quite simply, there are several good reasons.  Some motherboards just don't like booting at certain settings, but easily overclock in Windows with software overclocking tools.  The EVBot helps here.  Further, many people refuse entirely to use software to overclock, are not comfortable using overclocking through software, or have tried it and have received poor results.  The EVBot removes any possible software interference with the OS, and you will never have to worry about a software overclocking tool causing a crash during benching.  This is a tool that makes your life easier while overclocking; and with overclocking, easier is well worth its weight in gold.
     
    Miscellaneous Items
     
    If the EVBot does not turn on when you plug in the connector from the motherboard/cards, try flipping the cable over.  You can actually plug the cable in backwards, which will cause the EVBot to remain powerless.  Don't ask how I know this.
     
    I really would caution you to be careful to close all programs that share the SMBus when flashing the firmware to the EVBot.  Leaving programs like Everest, CPUZ, Eleet, etc. open while flashing the firmware can cause the flash to fail.  Fortunately, it's nearly impossible to brick the firmware on these EVBots. 
     
    For more information on the EVBot, please visit EVGA's official site for the EVBot:
     
    http://www.evga.com/evbot/
     
    EVGA's Official EVBot video:

     
    Various Forum links:
     
    EVGA EVBot Forum Section
    EVBot FAQ
     
    I hope this guide helps you understand the various features of the EVBot, and if you were on the fence buying this tool, I hope it's pushed you over the edge.  Feel free to ask any questions about the EVBot, and I'll do my best to answer them.

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 10:07:29 (permalink)
    wow great review thanks!
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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 10:49:57 (permalink)
    Thanks Shamino.  

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 12:03:46 (permalink)
    awesome job nordic, if only i could OC that well LOL.  all them voltages still confuse me as to what helps with what conditions.  back with my 680i i was able to figure it out real easy.

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 14:59:33 (permalink)
    Awesome and plenty of pictures nordic.

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/05 15:15:05 (permalink)
    moose517

    awesome job nordic, if only i could OC that well LOL.  all them voltages still confuse me as to what helps with what conditions.  back with my 680i i was able to figure it out real easy.



    Again, read this guide (and the comments) religiously:

    http://www.evga.com/forum..hive/tm.asp?m=100494809


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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/06 07:22:05 (permalink)
    NJ, you should give yourself 5 blue ribbons for this guide. It is real cool.

    The Clock Skew control will be of more use on the X58 boards than the P55. 2 clockgens are used on the P55 boards and I have a feeling that the primary differential outputs of each are used to provide the reference signal to their respective clients (1 Clock gen sends to the CPU only and the other to the PCH and perhaps PCI). In this instance you end up offsetting both by the same level of skew which won't have the same effect as offsetting one domain against the other. In truth though, the need for manual skew of the master clock signal has become largely useless thanks to the excellent write levelling routines employed by Intel.

    On the X58 boards (using one clockgen to provide reference clocks to all busses), having the control on the EVbot is actually 'better' than having it in the BIOS (assuming it changes on-the-fly that is). Reason is that you get to work against the IMC write levelling by making an adjustemnt after the post process (which may actually be useful in certain scenarios).

    lastly I should add that changing the Clock Amplitude will also change the skew of the output signal (slew rates affect rise, hold and fall times)

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/07 02:11:49 (permalink)
    Thanks Raja, I understand these settings much better thanks to you.  Next time I try some serious overclocking, I'll see whether any of this helps.

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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/23 03:47:29 (permalink)
    Just tripped over this and a HUGE Thank you!!  Great detailed review & write up!!  I have one waiting for me at home and I feel like I already know how to use it. 
    Glad I bought one.  The +5 Blue Ribbons suggestion by Raja is justified. +5 x 2!!
     
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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2010/01/23 12:45:07 (permalink)
    Nice. Great writeup Nordic! I'll think about getting one whenever I get a 4 way SLI.
     
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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2011/01/12 05:50:39 (permalink)
    So out of curiosity with the OC booster is it possible to run say 5.4ghz through the graphics test and immediatly back it off to 5.2ghz for the cpu test where I'm stable. The reason I ask is my cards really come alive at 5.4 but I lock up everytime on the cpu test. Is the change immediate. I have ssd's and I really don't get much time in between test to configure or even look at my temps sometimes.
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    Re:The EVBot - The Force Unleashed 2011/01/16 08:17:41 (permalink)
    Yes, that's certainly doable using the EVBot.  The change may take a second, but it's pretty close to instant.

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