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2011/06/01 17:52:45 (permalink)
Not sure if this was posted and some of you may be aware.
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 18:16:23 (permalink)
    so what is this corrosion, I thought that nickle was one of the few that did not cause or have issues. Is ek putting an alloy on rather than true nickle?
     
    The real question, is is this caused by brass, copper, or do you have to have both in a loop to cause this. Perhaps it is caused by aluminum?

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 18:26:36 (permalink)
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    so what is this corrosion, I thought that nickle was one of the few that did not cause or have issues. Is ek putting an alloy on rather than true nickle?

    The real question, is is this caused by brass, copper, or do you have to have both in a loop to cause this. Perhaps it is caused by aluminum?

    The Investigation I believe is because of this thread here over at Xtreme Systems.
    I just learned of this today so I have been doing some poking around on the web.
    As you can see in my Sig all my EK blocks are Nickel Plated. Has me kinda worried.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 18:28:01 (permalink)

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 18:36:38 (permalink)
    kinda wann open the loop on my 590's now and take a peek in the holes of the block. Be interesting to see what he says since his is the only blocks doing it.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 18:44:26 (permalink)
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    kinda wann open the loop on my 590's now and take a peek in the holes of the block. Be interesting to see what he says since his is the only blocks doing it.

    He isn't the only one with the issue. Look through the whooole thread. Was enough people for EK to launch an investigation into the matter.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 19:04:19 (permalink)
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    kinda wann open the loop on my 590's now and take a peek in the holes of the block. Be interesting to see what he says since his is the only blocks doing it.

    He isn't the only one with the issue. Look through the whooole thread. Was enough people for EK to launch an investigation into the matter.

    When I said his, I meant eddy IE ek, only EK blocks are doing this.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 21:12:31 (permalink)
    So, are their blocks solid nickel or only nickle plated? I'm confused? If it is only plating, what type of metal is under the plating?
    post edited by Brad_Hawthorne - 2011/06/01 21:21:26
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 22:11:07 (permalink)
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    So, are their blocks solid nickel or only nickle plated? I'm confused? If it is only plating, what type of metal is under the plating?

     
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 22:12:31 (permalink)
    Brad_Hawthorne

    So, are their blocks solid nickel or only nickle plated? I'm confused? If it is only plating, what type of metal is under the plating?

    Read this entire thread, very informative 
    http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=47617
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 22:38:06 (permalink)
    Wow, RRR is a bit coarse. LOL. Technically speaking linking to profanity is against evga forum guidelines, but there is a lot of relevant info in the thread.
    post edited by Brad_Hawthorne - 2011/06/01 22:42:46
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/01 23:52:31 (permalink)
    thats why I only buy copper with plexi top so I can see whats going on inside my blocks.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 02:30:34 (permalink)
    I gave up on water cooling when I etched my DD copper blocks in 2006. Galvanic corrosion occurred and I decided water cooling was way too problematic. I've been high performance air cooling ever since. Water cooling makes your rig into a high maintenance woman...and high maintenance women annoy me.
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 02:38:05 (permalink)
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    I gave up on water cooling when I etched my DD copper blocks in 2006. Galvanic corrosion occurred and I decided water cooling was way too problematic. I've been high performance air cooling ever since. Water cooling makes your rig into a high maintenance woman...and high maintenance women annoy me.

    I like to think of it more like my High Performance Car (09' Challenger). Change my Oil every three months, change my Water every three months. Still doesn't make it right about the EK blocks though. No recall on those like Vehicles unfortunately.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 03:07:44 (permalink)
    More than a bit coarse i'd say..

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 03:17:30 (permalink)
    Wow, this doesn't look good for EK.
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 06:11:24 (permalink)
      i have some ek parts for sale......


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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 06:13:00 (permalink)
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      i have some ek parts for sale......

    Bad time to be trying to sell em.
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 06:21:26 (permalink)
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    i have some ek parts for sale......

    Bad time to be trying to sell em.

    If they are Nickel Plated that is. I would still buy there unplated stuff.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 06:40:17 (permalink)
    Nickel Plating Report Delayed
     
    I was thinking. If I have to, I'll send the blocks somewhere and have them stripped and replated properly. Will cost some money but I already paid a pretty penny for them. Compared to my rig though, it won't seem all that bad.
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 07:52:54 (permalink)
    i was being sarcastic.  i have 3 480 blocks a 762 and a 760 that all get sold for scrap, im not going to bother re-plating their junk.  thanks for posting this.  i thought that crud was because i got ripped off on my silver (i use a coil made from $70 of jewelers wire).


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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 08:14:06 (permalink)
    & there I was about to buy some EK blocks....

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 08:15:55 (permalink)
    Wait for the reports results before passing judgment... $.02

     
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 08:24:34 (permalink)
    Thanks for the heads up on this article.  Believe or not, I am gonna have to tear up my watercooling set up and dismantle my HK3 block. The gunk they talk about in one of the pics, I'd seen it (inside the block) on the base where the CPU makes contact with the block when I change my CPU and applied paste on it.
    I thought it was AS5 paste, but nah. This totally confirms it. 
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 08:51:09 (permalink)
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    Wait for the reports results before passing judgment... $.02

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 11:23:54 (permalink)
    While RRTech was coarse, they have offered the only honest technical explanation I have seen so far. From the responses eddy has been giving that thread might be one of the only places to get a real answer.
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 15:08:17 (permalink)
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    Wait for the reports results before passing judgment... $.02

     
    A internal report on something is at best covering your own self interests and at worst distorting the truth. There are enough blatent photos out there to scare me off of ever going with their nickle plated anything.
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 16:02:03 (permalink)
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    Wait for the reports results before passing judgment... $.02


    A internal report on something is at best covering your own self interests and at worst distorting the truth. There are enough blatent photos out there to scare me off of ever going with their nickle plated anything.

    Totally agree. In this case though I understand that it is an independent source?
     
    Many of us have gone over this in the past and had been shunned. Including by other folks on other forums... The reality is the cost to do it right and how fast Technology advances = high cost and low sales...
     
    I have two systems that I tore down today that ran nothing but NUKE and Distilled water... Spotless RAD's and blocks. To say I was shocked is an understatement. Both systems = EK Products in copper and one or two blocks in each are nickle plated...
     
    My worry is the three EVGA FTW470's I have as they are nickle... This is why I am looking forward to the report first. I have not looked at the EVGA units and this has spooked me a bit... Now if it is all hype on internal investigation crap @ EK... They lose me as a client because you are right. That is not how you get this situation fixed...

     
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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 19:40:24 (permalink)
    If they don't resolve it to my satisfaction, going back to BP or maybe check out AquaComputer. They make some nice stuff.

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    Re:Issue with Nickel Plated EK Blocks 2011/06/02 19:53:38 (permalink)
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    If they don't resolve it to my satisfaction, going back to BP or maybe check out AquaComputer. They make some nice stuff.

     
    Or just use solid copper blocks from them.
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