Water cooling 760 help

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2011/06/01 13:58:02 (permalink)
hi guys
 
Basicly this is my first water cooled system built. So i don t know much to begin with, i started reading about it more and more but still, i ll need You guys to give me input on it. So this is basicly what i have so far:

Mb- evga x58 3x classified 760
cpu- i7 970
ram- corsair dom gt 2000mgz 8-8-8-24
EK-FB  water cooling block for the chipset and heatsink
Ek-bay spin resevoir 5.25
Swiftech mcp350 with x5sp top thingy(no clue what its called)
Swiftech 120mm rad
and plenty of bitspower 1/4 to 1/2 fitting
coolermaster HAF-X
 
i m missing the water block for the cpu! which i didn t know whicht one to grab so if you guys had any advices on the best choices that be awsome, and also i know i won t have enough with a 120mm rad to cool both cpu and mb block. So again advices here would be really needed to figure out what best scenario would be for my setup. And i should have space with the haf-x to run 2 rad (hopefully) , well thx guys pm me or just reply to thread
 

 
 
  
   
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    Peter Northbridge
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 16:49:38 (permalink)
    one 120mm rad will do a cpu ok...min dual 120mm I'd suggest. Your pump should be capable of doing 2 "blocks"  - vga/cpu/bridge/mosfet, etc. without a hitch. EK makes some really nice blocks..the revision 2 of my block is a nice one as well. It boils (bad joke?) down to where you can get the best price really. you could buy another rad, say a 2x120, get a nice block for the cpu and run both rads. You'd be cool as a cucumber then! Quiet, too.  If you were planning on doing your cpu and chipset under h2O a 3x120mm rad would be optimal in most cases...you're just 2 short at the moment.
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 16:57:31 (permalink)
    Nice cpu block that works great and is decently priced is the Swiftech APOGEE-XT. Also grab a Swiftech MCR320 rad minimum. They are decently priced, perform well and bolt right to the top of the HAF X case.

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 17:01:15 (permalink)
    120 is enough for a low clocked CPU, that is as far as it goes. You have room for a 360mm radiator. Get something like the Hardware Labs Black Ice SR1 360mm Radiator. That will do CPU, Motherboard, and a GPU. I would get another Radiator for SLI like a 240 and it it to the loop.
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 17:08:12 (permalink)
    Pretty sure the Hardware Labs Black Ice SR1 360mm won't work for him as it's a dual pass rad, which makes it thicker and with the EK Full chipset block he will not have room for the top port (vrm area) of the block.
     
    Here is my HAF X with a XSPC RX 360 rad (dual pass) and if I had a block on the vrm I would not have room.
     


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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 17:20:09 (permalink)
    I thought that there was a bit of room in the HAF X for Dual Pass rads? I could be mistaken.
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 17:36:13 (permalink)
    There is depending on what motherboard you use. As you can see in the pic above, the rad is mounted directly to the top of the case with one set of fans on the rad. The fans overlap any motherboard you use. If there are heatsinks at the top of the motherboard they need to be short enough to fit behind the fans. The vrm heatsink on the E760 just barely fits, matter of fact you have to force the motherboard in there to get the curved tube part of the vrm heatsink to fit behind the fan. The top screws of the Switech APOGEE-XT just barely have room before they hit the fans. Couple more pics to show what I'm talking about.
     
    Marked with red to show the clearance issue areas.

     
    In this picture you can see where i had to use shorter screws on the cpu block to get it fit with a XSPC RX360 rad.

     
    I wanted to water cool my daughters P55 FTW board and only had a XSPC RX360 rad at the time and it would not work because there are heatsinks along the top of the board that would not fit behind the fans.


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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 17:54:38 (permalink)
    http://martinsliquidlab.org/category/blocks/
    -here's a few block's to look over
    -I have a koolance 370 going in this week - the xt has been in from oct.2009 ,looking at better flow ,[only because I know it could be better] and easy mount as will do in the case ,and the 370 fits the requirements.
    -get a 360 rad
    http://martinsliquidlab.o...optimizer-spreadsheet/
    -that speedsheet might help your learning curve if you play with it.
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/01 19:47:54 (permalink)
    thx guys, that a lot of input , but i m still trying to figure out if that 120mm rad that i got for 10$ would be usefull if i just get a 360mm? i won t be water cooling my gpu! only mb and cpu so, for the fitting, i got bitspower 1/4 to 1/2 which seem like the best one from many articles i have read over the past few days. the money isn t the issue and as you guys mention the haf-x got plenty of space, so the issue isn t there really, it s more trying to figure out which would be the best scenario in term of cooling  for a eventual OC

     
     
      
       
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/02 02:38:23 (permalink)
    Most blocks are just within a few degrees of each other. Since you're going with an EK FC motherboard block you could go with the EK Supreme LTX or the EK Supreme HF cpu block. Thing is they are not exactly the most easy to mount, but I do see the EK Supreme HF now comes with an easy mount kit, which is nice. I really like the Swiftech APOGEE-XT for it's mounting simplicity. I use the Swiftech APOGEE-XT on my i7 970 and it does just fine. I also have a Koolance north/south bridge water block on my personal rig (E760 picture I posted is from a folding rig I built).
     
    You will probably want to pick up at least two angled rotary barbs. To go from the cpu block to the chipset block. Like this one here.
     
    http://www.sidewindercomp..s.com/bishsiro90fi.html
     
    and don't forget the clamps, make sure you get the bigger clamps to fit the tubing properly.
     
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/02 03:50:08 (permalink)
    I would hold off buying anything EK that is nickel plated for the time been untill they find what the nickel corrosion/flaking problem is caused by.
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/02 03:58:47 (permalink)
    That does seem to be an issue of concern right now.
     
    http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1043432

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/02 04:02:43 (permalink)
    kram36

    That does seem to be an issue of concern right now.

    http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1043432


    EK should have there findings available in the next few days.
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/02 13:38:20 (permalink)
    i see that ek had lots of issues regarding there plating of the block! BAD TRIP, if i knew that i wouldn t of got the ek-fb block for the mb, oh well i guess i can t really complain when i got it for 60$ , but yeah this is very good that you guys mention that cuz i was about to get a EK cpu water block, but seing they have issues with plating there block i ll have to go with the apogee-xt(r2) from swiftech..dosen t bother me though but it s definitly nice to have those feedbacks. also i m wondering if i should go with distilled water or a pre-made cooling solution?i m also thinking about that 360mm rad, and just throwing that 120mm rad out the door unless you guys think it will be usefull in a loop.

     
     
      
       
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/02 15:39:03 (permalink)
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    i see that ek had lots of issues regarding there plating of the block! BAD TRIP, if i knew that i wouldn t of got the ek-fb block for the mb, oh well i guess i can t really complain when i got it for 60$ , but yeah this is very good that you guys mention that cuz i was about to get a EK cpu water block, but seing they have issues with plating there block i ll have to go with the apogee-xt(r2) from swiftech..dosen t bother me though but it s definitly nice to have those feedbacks. also i m wondering if i should go with distilled water or a pre-made cooling solution?i m also thinking about that 360mm rad, and just throwing that 120mm rad out the door unless you guys think it will be usefull in a loop.


    the rad suggested above (360) will be more than adequate for your plans. The rev.2 apogee XT is an excellent block, would be a good choice IMO. Keep the RAD you have if you only paid 10 bucks for it. jam it in somewhere or save it if you need it.   Setup your loop outside the pc first and do all your leak checks before you do a full install. Mock it up, flush it out, fill it, run it for 30 min to an hour....get all the wee air bubbles out. then you're off! My .02c
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/02 18:14:42 (permalink)
    crazy , i can t wait i order the rest of the stuff trough sidewinder so i should be getting it tomorow, i feel like a lil fat kid that ate his first cup cake

     
     
      
       
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/08 20:22:05 (permalink)
    oh yeah, i also forgot to add pt nuke phn when i purchase stuff from sidewinders and now i hope i can find a store near me for that item because i don t feel like spending 3.99$ for the pt nuke phn and 50$ of shipping to canada and i can t find an online canadian store that got it, so ill cross my finger. i also read that i can use a product from a ped shop that does the similar job as the pt nuke phn when using distilled water to act as a biocide

     
     
      
       
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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/09 08:37:22 (permalink)
    Instead of PT nuke you can also get some silver and put it into your loop. It just has to be extremely pure silver.

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/11 18:21:56 (permalink)
    Looking good.

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/12 12:03:12 (permalink)
    looks like you're on your way to building something sick ! When I got my swiftech kit, I just used the biocide that came with the kit. It's not as good as the PT nuke or other products out there, but It will suffice. Just put your system together with a provision to get to your reservoir easily and drain/refill it if need be. When you mock up your loop, run it for a bit or flush it out with some distilled water, drain it and effectively rinse it out then refill it with your final mixture of distilled water and whatever else you put into it.  Looking forward to seeing it all done...looks like you got some nice parts to play with !! 

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/12 13:15:16 (permalink)
    My ek parts are holding up just fine.

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/14 06:28:08 (permalink)
    I have the swiftech H20-220 kit with another 120 rad in the loop. Running apogee and ek-580 plated full block on my gtx570. The problem with the nickel plating is with people running just distilled water with silver coils. It creates a corrosive mix. Eats the first thing which is the nickel. Use an anti-corrosive. Don't be scared of them.

    I'm getting great temps. Load I'm getting CPU 40-45c and GPU 40c max

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/14 06:31:41 (permalink)
    I got those temps @ stock clocks as well.

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/15 04:06:26 (permalink)
    Good to see I've done it right then. LOL Very happy with the temps and quietness.

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/16 10:27:19 (permalink)
    snapsimo

    Good to see I've done it right then. LOL Very happy with the temps and quietness.


    you're only @ 3.2ghz, tho. Step on the gas, son!

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    Re:Water cooling 760 help 2011/06/16 14:35:52 (permalink)
    To rumphf,
     
    what TIM are u using with your setup?  I r just curious.

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