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(Is there a whine and snivel forum here? This post should go there if there is.)
My E758 died yesterday. It's been rock-solid for 15 months (after sorting through several other boards - it's a long story...) but yesterday when I plugged in a USB flash drive, the screen froze. It wasn't a bent USB socket pin, unfortunately. After a forced shutdown, it goes directly to FF without passing GO.
Same deal with or without components installed, with two different PSUs, in or out of the case. Dead as a doornail. Tech thinks a dead Vreg chip.
There's an RMA board on the way. That's the good news. The bad news is it will certainly be a refurb. Maybe a refurb of a refurb :( If it's a Rev 1.0 board, I'm screwed. I've requested a 1.1, but no guarantees. I need S3. And VT.
I don't game or overclock, but this thing has been my big, bad, i7 desktop and my daily driver for work and personal stuff. If the RMA board is a skank, I may think of moving to a newer unit. But what? I'd like to move all my components over, and I have to have two classic PCI slots at a minimum.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/20 11:59:36
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Damned sorry to hear that, man.  Makes me wanna hurry up & find a full-cover block for mine ASAP, as this is the only (currently running) rig in my stable.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/22 10:35:55
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[even further OT]
The RMA board should be here Thursday. Of course, nobody will be home Thursday.
No matter how much I beg and plead, EVGA won't waive their signature on delivery requirement. I understand completely why it's necessary in many/most cases, but why not make it a customer option to opt out like many other companies do?
I have piles of NewEgg stuff sitting on the front porch (out here in the sticks) on a regular basis. Signature waivers on file with UPS and FedEx and no problems so far.
I'm entirely willing to personally take the risk of a stolen shipment, but EVGA won't budge.
</rant>
Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/22 18:45:00
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sorry to hear that man, been running mine for a while now. hope all remains well for years to come.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/22 19:05:04
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That really sucks man, I'm so sorry to hear about that. Hope the RMA goes through nice and quick and oyu get back up and running ASAP!
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/23 07:51:58
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Warning! Graphic images included - not for the young or faint of heart! Continuing this thread for no good reason... This curdled label with a hole in it sure looks nasty. I hope it was just silicon suicide or a runaway local voltage regulator, maybe. My PSU voltages all meter out OK. Anyone else seen this? Z. 
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/24 21:24:47
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The RMA board arrived today. Looks good, rev 1.1, got it installed quickly. Set my stuff in BIOS (AHCI, VT, RAM timings and voltage - just setting 1600 per RAM spec) and it boots Win 7 OK. The bad news: Memtest86 hung solid after a couple of passes. System temp in BIOS health and eLeet reports at 95-100C immediately after bootup in an open cool case - which is complete nonsense. Other reported temps look normal. Do I have a flaky replacement board or is there some dial to twist in BIOS that affects system temp reporting? The BIOS label on the chip socket is SZ2W but Everest says SZ74. I'm going to run a different memtest version for as long as it will run - or overnight. Thoughts/suggestions appreciated, Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 09:41:43
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A little update to this personal blog I seem to be running:
The RAM problems were solved by downgrading to BIOS SZ2Z - my personal favorite.
The system temp is still nuts. Support is convinced that this is just a bad sensor, and say to live with it. All other temps are fine, even when running Everest stress tests. I'll just wait and see, I guess...
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 09:49:28
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RIP E758
you were a solid board
I still have mine, good for wen the Classified starts playing up, which has happened a few times, on my 4th E759, my E758 is the original one I bought.
My sig is too big If you want to know my specs tough sh..
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 09:52:48
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Warning! Graphic images included - not for the young or faint of heart!
Continuing this thread for no good reason...
This curdled label with a hole in it sure looks nasty. I hope it was just silicon suicide or a runaway local voltage regulator, maybe. My PSU voltages all meter out OK. Anyone else seen this?
Z.
Those "holes" are supposed to be there, they are indentations not holes. The sticker likely "curdled" due to the glue holding it down getting heated up plus the label looks to have some metal component to it so the heat (likely from a graphics card) warped the label. I dont think thats why your board died, I could be wrong, would need to remove the BIOS label completely to tell if there was an actual damage under there.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 10:02:40
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You could be right. I pulled the label part way off and didn't actually see the hole in the chip that I expected.
There _is_ a ragged hole in the label though: "Phoen*splat" in the middle of the sticker.
The symptom was instant FF @ boot after it froze while windows was running. Whatever it was, it was fatal.
Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 10:49:30
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Moltenlava
RIP E758
you were a solid board
I still have mine, good for wen the Classified starts playing up, which has happened a few times, on my 4th E759, my E758 is the original one I bought.
4th 759?! Geez
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 10:50:29
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My 758 is still running strong. I hate to see the day when I have to RMA it and gamble.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 11:18:13
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[HazMatt]
My 758 is still running strong. I hate to see the day when I have to RMA it and gamble.
Yep, I really hated it when my board died. It had been rock-solid for over a year, S3 sleep and all. Getting to a stable board had been a major thrash, so I was/am terrified by the RMA process. Maybe I'll tell that story now. It might sound like a rant against EVGA, but it's quite the opposite. The support techs and powers-that-be stuck with me all the way. 1) Bought an ASUS P6T deluxe V2 (I wanted to try the linux-from-BIOS thingy). Immediately updated BIOS. The new BIOS version was buggy (not the install, the actual BIOS) and hosed the machine. ASUS BIOSen (some versions) can't be downgraded, and I wasn't willing to wait an unknown length of time for a new BIOS. Support was friendly, but _clueless_. 2) The 'Egg agreed to take the board back and sold me my 758-A1. I updated the BIOS first thing and got some very strange behavior. I called tech and they agreed that the board was sick, and started an RMA. In hindsight, it was just the normal "click" during RAM bank probing and the VT double-pump, but I didn't know anything about that, and unfortunately, the tech didn't either. (That's my only beef with tech...) IIRC, that first board was a V1.1. 3) The new board arrived but it was a V1.0 board :( The within-the-1st-week RMA shouldn't have been a refurb, but it obviously was. (Well, maybe that's my only _other_ beef with support, or the warehouse...) Most things worked fine, but S3 sleep was a mess. I really need/want/prefer S3. I lived with it for a while, but it was a pain. A thread showed up one day talking about how the 1.1 boards were better. I PM'd an EVGA individual who to my surprise immediately offered to send me a V1.1 board. Sweet! 4) The V1.1 board showed up promptly, and just as promptly bricked on a BIOS update. Really. I've been in the biz for over 40 years supposedly know how to do these things. Don't think I did anything wrong. The BIOS update just black-screened mid-update and that was all she wrote. Using the same CD, BIOS, and drive that I've used for updating since. Maybe I'm getting too old... Support didn't bat an eye. They RMA'd the board immediately. 5) The next board showed up. It was a V1.1. With bent CPU socket pins. Immediate RMA after uploading a pic. 6) The _next_ board showed up. Without a CPU socket cover, but no bent pins. BUT IT WAS A V1.0 BOARD. *bleep* oh dear... 7) Finally got my dearly departed 758. Fast and rock-solid for 14 months or so, then splat. 8) Well here we are with a board working but showing 100C system temp. And so it goes... I may have gotten some of this out of order or missed a few details (or a few boards). It's kind of a poorly-remembered blurry nightmare at this point. EVGA staff could have argued that any or all of the above was my fault (I don't believe it was...) and declined to support me. They didn't. Friendly and responsive the entire way, and it was quite a journey. Later, Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 13:16:36
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My 758 runs like a champ! 
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 13:44:44
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zoltanthegypsy
A little update to this personal blog I seem to be running:
The RAM problems were solved by downgrading to BIOS SZ2Z - my personal favorite.
The system temp is still nuts. Support is convinced that this is just a bad sensor, and say to live with it. All other temps are fine, even when running Everest stress tests. I'll just wait and see, I guess...
Z.
Is that what support says.....or are you saying that you will live with it?
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 13:59:52
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VistaHead
zoltanthegypsy
A little update to this personal blog I seem to be running:
The RAM problems were solved by downgrading to BIOS SZ2Z - my personal favorite.
The system temp is still nuts. Support is convinced that this is just a bad sensor, and say to live with it. All other temps are fine, even when running Everest stress tests. I'll just wait and see, I guess...
Z.
Is that what support says.....or are you saying that you will live with it?
Both. My instinct is to not rest until everything is perfect, but I'm a little afraid of getting into a situation where I'm sorting through boards again. The 2nd-tier support tech said he wasn't inclined to replace the board again "given my RMA history". [edit] I don't think it was intended to be personal. My understanding is that he thought something else - my RAM perhaps - was causing all these problems. I don't agree, but ... [/edit] I didn't press the issue. I don't know what support would have said if I had insisted on yet another board. I repeat, this isn't a complaint about support. All 3 techs I have contacted about this replacement board have been friendly, well-informed, and helpful. Z. (starting to regret bringing this up...)
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 14:26:08
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Damn bro. I feel for you. I hope evrything is OK in the end.
P.S. I would not take the board that reads 100 C all the time on some sensor.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 14:36:06
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DMIINC
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P.S. I would not take the board that reads 100 C all the time on some sensor.
I normally wouldn't either. It's clearly defective. On the other hand, system temp is just for information, AFAICS. It's also an A1 board, so that's a comfort. The "EARs" are getting a little expensive, though. Later, Z. (I've got to shorten my sig if I'm going to post so many times in one thread, I guess)
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 15:20:20
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It looks like to me that you are lowering your standards. I understand that you are tired of RMA'ing. However I would demand board that works.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 16:26:39
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zoltanthegypsy
[even further OT]
The RMA board should be here Thursday. Of course, nobody will be home Thursday.
No matter how much I beg and plead, EVGA won't waive their signature on delivery requirement. I understand completely why it's necessary in many/most cases, but why not make it a customer option to opt out like many other companies do?
I have piles of NewEgg stuff sitting on the front porch (out here in the sticks) on a regular basis. Signature waivers on file with UPS and FedEx and no problems so far.
I'm entirely willing to personally take the risk of a stolen shipment, but EVGA won't budge.
</rant>
Z.
I have spoken with my UPS guy, and he has agreed to leave signature required shipments, If I will leave a note on the door, asking him to do so, that referances the specific tracking #, I guess he has to cover his A$$. But this work around gets m my shippments, and I have yet to have a issue. Talk to yours if you can, I can not prommise they all will do that, but I see mine often, and he knows me.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 16:39:34
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KMoore4318
[zoltan b*tching about UPS signatures...]
I have spoken with my UPS guy, and he has agreed to leave signature required shipments, If I will leave a note on the door, asking him to do so, that referances the specific tracking #, I guess he has to cover his A$$. But this work around gets m my shippments, and I have yet to have a issue. Talk to yours if you can, I can not prommise they all will do that, but I see mine often, and he knows me.
That's a good suggestion, but I've asked, and my regular driver doesn't want to risk his job. He says they have been given the word that required signatures _can't_ be ignored under any circumstances. I don't know if that's company policy, local policy, or just him being paranoid. It's his call, not mine, unfortunately. OTOH, he did give me his personal cell # so I can call and ask him ~ what time of day he's likely to be around. He's a good dude. He wasn't driving last Thursday so I convinced the Mrs. to stay home all day and wait. Now I owe her... Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/26 17:05:51
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^ Oh, I understand the owe her part, I have to spend on wife, what I spend on equipment, Tell me how, Two pair of shoes, a bottle of face cream and a braclet, is anywhere near as fun as a 580, I know your thinking how does this tie in with BR's, I don't have to count the BR's in the match, so Honestly, Each BR is worth $4 for me.  But guys, the wife now loves it when I buy.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/27 15:54:39
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Rats. Somewhere up-thread I said "The RAM problems were solved by downgrading to BIOS SZ2Z - my personal favorite." Not so much :(
After the BIOS downgrade I ran memtest for 6 or 7 hours without a problem so I thought I was out of the woods. Today I tried to run an Everest (and Aida 64) stability test. BSOD in a minute or two. *bleep*
If I go in and set ram freq to 1333, things _seem_ to be stable in Aida and Everest.
Talking to support, they tell me that anything above 1333 is an overclock - regardless of the RAM's specs, and that it may require changing CPU voltages and timings. Hmmm.
With my last 758 (and my neighbor's identical build) I just set 1600, 7,7,7,24, and 1.65V and it was rock solid. I didn't touch anything else.
Is tech giving me the straight scoop on this? (Or so as to not offend, am I understanding it correctly?) Is is usually/often necessary to tweak settings other than RAM settings to run RAM @ spec?
This issue along with the broken system temp sensor make me mistru****l of this board.
Thanks for any clues and apologies for my ignorance,
Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/27 16:19:07
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Intel lists the spec of their chips, as 1060 capable, which is why it is the default settings, They do this because they can uniformaly guarentee that speed, anything above 1060 is considered a OC, but only because it is above the spec if the weakest componamt, and outside if what is setup as default. If you use the settings specified on your ram, IE Voltage and timeing you should be able to get your ram to work at it's spec only playing with Vtt, but since each chip is diferent, I can not tell you what Vtt to try, I have found with my chips that +150 Vtt is usualy suffecent, but keep in mind difrent BIOSes have a difrent base Vtt, and the amount you add, is added to the base. Intel, recomends not exceeding a total Vtt of 1.4, ( although I have seen others exceed that, and do myself on one of my systems, but that system has 12G )
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/27 17:36:58
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-no one should have as many issues as you have- sorry to hear about them ,odds\pc gods have to go to your side some day.
-what case fans\cpu cooler do you have btw.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/27 17:52:29
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Rgallant
-no one should have as many issues as you have- sorry to hear about them ,odds\pc gods have to go to your side some day.
-what case fans\cpu cooler do you have btw.
Nah, I've permanently p*ssed off the PC gods. Resigned myself to that years ago. The biggest irritation just now is that the fool mobo isn't dead, just wounded. And right out of the (refurb, probably) RMA box, at that. The CPU cooler is stock Intel for the 920. Case fans are stock Antec P182 case fans set to medium speed. There isn't actually a temp problem. The inside of the case is quite cool, but the case/system sensor is defective. Other temps are just fine, even under full CPU load. My 3 drives sit at around 26C. I'm running at stock, except for trying to run the RAM @ spec. I guess that's technically overclocking. @KMoore4318, thanks for the info. I need to go read through all the overclocking info on the forum and get educated. I didn't think I was an overclocker... Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/27 18:07:32
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Sorry to hear about your apparently (still) gimpy board, Zoltan. For what it's worth, I'd be more than willing to post my O/C BIOS settings, since we have identical hardware, except that my i7 is D0. However, I'm on water and, since you're running a stock cooler, I doubt you'd realize the same results. I have a Cooler Master V8 I'd be willing to part with if you might be interested and, for you, I'd part with it for next to nothin'. Either way, I hope everything works out well for ya. ~ Bamm
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/28 07:29:22
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Hey, thanks Bamm, but I don't need a new cooler. My actual temps are fine. What I needed was for EVGA to send me a fully functional replacement board.
Grrr,
Z.
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Re:My 758 died yesterday
2011/02/28 07:33:27
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Even though there is a fellow member having an issue (that sucks) there is a lot of win in this thread... AB Was Here... 
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