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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 05:34:39
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kram36
Ok, whatever. I disagree and knew this was going to be an issue to the teams bottom line numbers when you introduced it AB. I understand you defending it because you're the one that introduced it and pushed crunching from the start, but you can't disprove reality.
I am one just as AB posted. I was done with FAH and PG for my CPUs before the EVGA team had a Crunching Team. I joined crunching without any EVGA bonus incentive, as a way to still stay and support EVGA. . My GPUs still fold (when the 76XX or whatever don't stall my cards). I'm losing patience with PG again as I have no idea how they can claim "benching" the WU point assignment and the new ones are running 40% less if they run at all. As A point.... I have 4 Fermi's (2X460, 1X465 and 1X570) and currently doing 23K PPD total. All assigned the new WU class with one down for repeated failure and repeated reassignment of the same exact WU P(r,c,g). Just annoying. Sometimes 2X GPUs down. All down WUs are c0's. THAT means from 50K PPD to 20Kish and PG just doesn't care. Why should I care about PG? . It's not so much about the team as it is about PG doing this to Donor interest. I'd be curious to find out how PG's total input has fared through this if the Mega-folders were taken out of the picture historically?
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 05:49:18
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^^^ Hard to argue with that AB... Beyond that - putting all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea...
Also as a heads up Kram - It doesn't help EVGA Folding when you run around bad mouthing EVGA hardware. The only reason I know, participate for the Crunching/Folding Teams here is I bought an EVGA Motherboard way back when. Now I Crunch on 5 EVGA Motherboards.
Once again, the EVGA X79 motherboard deal. I only responded to the truth of my experience with EVGA X79 motherboards which is what the op wanted the thread you're talking about. EVGA is 0 for 2 on brand new working X79 motherboards for me. Add to that EVGA said if you bought the board directly from them they would come with the latest bios. I gave EVGA another chance and recommended the X79 SLi board for a customer build and told them specifically to order it from EVGA, they did and it came with a bad bios.
Heads up to you, I didn't cause EVGA to put out bad bios's on their X79 motherboards and I truthfully gave the op my experience with their X79 motherboards. About time you get over that. 
If you want to offer your experience fine - it's entirely different to say something like this -
kram36 "EVGA got their rear handed to them on the X79 boards by ASUS whether you want to face the facts or not."
^^^ You post that over a bad bios and a temporary problem with a SSD Drive - both of which have been resolved. That's not your experience - that's an opinion - and the wrong one at that. How many people have you steered toward Asus and who are they folding for now? I'm not here to argue, I just don't blow smoke up people rears on reality. You accuse AB of something while you potentially do the same...
Sorry, ATGSteakHouse, but you are the one injecting an opinion about Kram's experience. Just because you don't think he has a right to continue with an opinion based on his experience, doesn't "validate" your opinion on the matter. . JIMO, It's petty squabbles like this that are Killing our membership. YMMV.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 06:04:45
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^^^ Hard to argue with that AB... Beyond that - putting all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea...
Also as a heads up Kram - It doesn't help EVGA Folding when you run around bad mouthing EVGA hardware. The only reason I know, participate for the Crunching/Folding Teams here is I bought an EVGA Motherboard way back when. Now I Crunch on 5 EVGA Motherboards.
Once again, the EVGA X79 motherboard deal. I only responded to the truth of my experience with EVGA X79 motherboards which is what the op wanted the thread you're talking about. EVGA is 0 for 2 on brand new working X79 motherboards for me. Add to that EVGA said if you bought the board directly from them they would come with the latest bios. I gave EVGA another chance and recommended the X79 SLi board for a customer build and told them specifically to order it from EVGA, they did and it came with a bad bios.
Heads up to you, I didn't cause EVGA to put out bad bios's on their X79 motherboards and I truthfully gave the op my experience with their X79 motherboards. About time you get over that.
If you want to offer your experience fine - it's entirely different to say something like this -
kram36 "EVGA got their rear handed to them on the X79 boards by ASUS whether you want to face the facts or not."
^^^ You post that over a bad bios and a temporary problem with a SSD Drive - both of which have been resolved. That's not your experience - that's an opinion - and the wrong one at that. How many people have you steered toward Asus and who are they folding for now? I'm not here to argue, I just don't blow smoke up people rears on reality. You accuse AB of something while you potentially do the same...
Sorry, ATGSteakHouse, but you are the one injecting an opinion about Kram's experience. Just because you don't think he has a right to continue with an opinion based on his experience, doesn't "validate" your opinion on the matter.
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JIMO, It's petty squabbles like this that are Killing our membership. YMMV.
So you think putting down EVGA Hardware and recommending people buy Asus Motherboards is good for the EVGA Folding Team?
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 06:14:51
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 06:26:02
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And Kram - why are your point totals so inconsistent? 0 Points for a 3 Month Stretch? You complain that others leave the team while you do the same...
http://folding.extremeove...ry.php?s=&u=521689
I never complained about anyone leaving the team. If you read my other post, then you would have the answer you seek.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 07:02:55
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So you think putting down EVGA Hardware and recommending people buy Asus Motherboards is good for the EVGA Folding Team?
Let me answer it as my post was intended. I believe that keeping a "free and open" exchange of ideas will help the Team. Visitors will feel comfortable seeing that they do not HAVE to "conform" to feel accepted and valued. Kneecapping by INDIVIDUAL members (such as you are doing here in my opinion) will not foster a comfy, cozy, "glad I stopped by here" feeling. Nor do I feel you have the right to "brow beat" any member into submission to your personal opinion/s or belief structure.... But heck, that's just me. . Edit: As far as the 'calling Kram out' on production lately goes.... It might behoove you to take a look at his total contribution to the team compared to yours before doing such. There are a large variety of reasons why such things happen. None should be offended by such a personally invasive attack and demanding type attitude. Sorry about the caps and italics, but the edit function will not allow the removal.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 07:07:57
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Ok, whatever. I disagree and knew this was going to be an issue to the teams bottom line numbers when you introduced it AB. I understand you defending it because you're the one that introduced it and pushed crunching from the start, but you can't disprove reality.
I am one just as AB posted. I was done with FAH and PG for my CPUs before the EVGA team had a Crunching Team. I joined crunching without any EVGA bonus incentive, as a way to still stay and support EVGA.
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My GPUs still fold (when the 76XX or whatever don't stall my cards). I'm losing patience with PG again as I have no idea how they can claim "benching" the WU point assignment and the new ones are running 40% less if they run at all. As A point.... I have 4 Fermi's (2X460, 1X465 and 1X570) and currently doing 23K PPD total. All assigned the new WU class with one down for repeated failure and repeated reassignment of the same exact WU P(r,c,g). Just annoying. Sometimes 2X GPUs down. All down WUs are c0's. THAT means from 50K PPD to 20Kish and PG just doesn't care. Why should I care about PG?
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It's not so much about the team as it is about PG doing this to Donor interest. I'd be curious to find out how PG's total input has fared through this if the Mega-folders were taken out of the picture historically?
I don't frequent [H] forums, so I have to ask. Do some of their folding members constantly complain about PG? Seems like those that have commented from the Crunching side left folding because of PG. I've been on the folding @ forums seeking answers and yeah it's seemed like they didn't have the time of day for my issues, so I just don't go there anymore. [H] has been folding much longer then EVGA, we are a baby compared to them. Maybe they have better rapport with PG then this team does.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 07:38:39
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Ok, whatever. I disagree and knew this was going to be an issue to the teams bottom line numbers when you introduced it AB. I understand you defending it because you're the one that introduced it and pushed crunching from the start, but you can't disprove reality.
I am one just as AB posted. I was done with FAH and PG for my CPUs before the EVGA team had a Crunching Team. I joined crunching without any EVGA bonus incentive, as a way to still stay and support EVGA.
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My GPUs still fold (when the 76XX or whatever don't stall my cards). I'm losing patience with PG again as I have no idea how they can claim "benching" the WU point assignment and the new ones are running 40% less if they run at all. As A point.... I have 4 Fermi's (2X460, 1X465 and 1X570) and currently doing 23K PPD total. All assigned the new WU class with one down for repeated failure and repeated reassignment of the same exact WU P(r,c,g). Just annoying. Sometimes 2X GPUs down. All down WUs are c0's. THAT means from 50K PPD to 20Kish and PG just doesn't care. Why should I care about PG?
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It's not so much about the team as it is about PG doing this to Donor interest. I'd be curious to find out how PG's total input has fared through this if the Mega-folders were taken out of the picture historically?
I don't frequent [H] forums, so I have to ask. Do some of their folding members constantly complain about PG? Seems like those that have commented from the Crunching side left folding because of PG. I've been on the folding @ forums seeking answers and yeah it's seemed like they didn't have the time of day for my issues, so I just don't go there anymore.
[H] has been folding much longer then EVGA, we are a baby compared to them. Maybe they have better rapport with PG then this team does.
I'm still banned at FF AFAIK, I don't go there anymore. I don't frequent [H] forums so I wouldn't know of their complaints or lack thereof. Their team is Largely the Mega folder (multi cpu server) makeup obviously, simply based on how few WUs are turned in for their points. Our team is not made up such based on the same reasoning. They ([H]) will be affected MUCH less than us with the PG changes of late, IMO. . I'm sorry that you feel that my opinion of PG is constant complaining. IMO, it simply is a constant reminder in threads such as this that it could (and for me is) be a reason for dropping support for FAH and PG. Happy folders (Mega servers) have no reason to become dissillusioned with PG and we aren't setup that way as a team.... All I'm saying. There's no conspiracy with the possible exception of FAH and PG. 
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 07:55:01
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My bad if you felt I was singling you out on PG constant complaints shdbcamping. I didn't mean it that way, I just meant that people that switched to crunching seem to have issues with how PG operates.
Yeah I mainly gpu fold. Throw some smp wu's in when I can from my main rig and the pc my daughter uses here. I bought a i7 980 and setup a dedicated smp rig and didn't realize I couldn't get -bigadv on that cpu anymore in Windows. I'd like to do -bigadv, but I just don't have the cash to drop on a multi cpu rig at the moment, maybe down the road I will.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 07:59:28
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kram36
I don't frequent [H] forums, so I have to ask. Do some of their folding members constantly complain about PG? Seems like those that have commented from the Crunching side left folding because of PG. I've been on the folding @ forums seeking answers and yeah it's seemed like they didn't have the time of day for my issues, so I just don't go there anymore.
[H] has been folding much longer then EVGA, we are a baby compared to them. Maybe they have better rapport with PG then this team does.
There are some good lessons to be learned from [H] and one of them is not to "eat your own". By and large, they weathered the PG changes very well as a Team and don't spend as much thread-width as we do on PG issues. They also have an excellent DAB rep (Kendrak) who is very good at taking issues to PG and also reporting back on what PG says. I feel that their team learned the hard way about the perils of intra-team fighting and they use that lesson in a positive go-forward approach. They do get "passionate" about things occasionally, but usually don't attack each other. What they do very well is provide constant discussion about ways to improve their Folding capabilities, technical advice, etc. Our "time in the barrel" is coming, of not being the #1 Points producer based upon how things are going. What we do with that (and during that) will define just how strong a team we really are. It is time for our team to refocus on the basics, get past petty differences and look toward the larger picture of team-work/spirit. I think we still have a lot of all those things...we just need to remember that and act that way with each other.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 08:28:30
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Great points, Tex. Problem is that if all our little (but many thnx ) GPU folders have to keep losing production due to PG choices, we will constantly lose them as a team. Maybe WE as EVGA simply do not have a 'voice' that PG is willing to listen to through our DAB. Maybe Our Team make-up is no longer impotant to PG. . Kills the 'bug' to go out and spend $300 on a new GPU (that one really did not need) to find that next month you are producing less PPD. We get a lot of new folders, ppd is their only method of 'judging' their worth to a project. PG castrates them lately, PLAIN and SIMPLE during the formative "bug stage" lately..... And they fade away. and they fade away, and they fade away. repeat as neccessary. Again... JIMO, YMMV
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 08:33:34
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As it turns out, several of the folks in this thread asking questions about our low numbers are in fact part of the problem - leaving for other teams, not folding because they received a PM they didn't like, getting banned on other forums, putting down EVGA Hardware etc. etc. I will not comment any further on this hypocrisy as obviously it is pointless, they simply refuse to accept any responsibility in the matter which is a shame. For if we continue down this road, then Yes we will fall to #2. So my challenge to Kram & shdb is this - You two start hammering out Work Units for Team EVGA as you once did - http://folding.extremeove...ry.php?s=&u=521115 http://folding.extremeove...ry.php?s=&u=521689 And I will quit the crunching team and Fold Full Force For EVGA - All 9 Machines   P67A-GD65-i5 05/01/2012 14:49:46 0:194:10:46:34 1,256,216 1,779  P5QSEPLUS 05/01/2012 13:06:08 0:126:03:37:11 442,654 663 HSP1796 05/01/2012 12:48:21 1:123:19:42:25 1,247,082 1,619 P55-LE 05/01/2012 11:49:06 0:346:01:32:44 2,031,918 2,980 z68-sli-2500k-2 05/01/2012 11:01:44 0:100:00:14:27 757,298 1,033 X79-SLI-i7-3820 05/01/2012 10:41:33 0:125:20:47:06 720,457 1,101 z68-sli-2500k 05/01/2012 08:23:28 0:150:19:32:03 1,059,284 1,457 P5KPL-AM-SE 04/30/2012 22:33:38 0:241:07:10:31 907,529 1,140 P55-LE-i7-875K 04/30/2012 14:06:17 1:135:18:03:52 2,069,070 2,875 And those are mostly EVGA Machines so you know they will run rock solid.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 08:44:08
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My bad if you felt I was singling you out on PG constant complaints shdbcamping. I didn't mean it that way, I just meant that people that switched to crunching seem to have issues with how PG operates.
Yeah I mainly gpu fold. Throw some smp wu's in when I can from my main rig and the pc my daughter uses here. I bought a i7 980 and setup a dedicated smp rig and didn't realize I couldn't get -bigadv on that cpu anymore in Windows. I'd like to do -bigadv, but I just don't have the cash to drop on a multi cpu rig at the moment, maybe down the road I will.
It's all good. I wasn't even slightly miffed by it . Just more posting towards clarification. IMO, t'was not taken as an attack or even offensive . we'll all differ from time to time. Being allowed to and understanding that we all have different reasons is important. Respecting that fact is essential for a team to remain close. I think our Team will be fine, personally. How we handle this little "complication" from [H] will forever "Define" who and what we are though. What do we want to look back at a year from now? Again,,, JIMO, YMMV.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 08:44:15
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I appreciate your zeal ATGSteakHouse. Right now I'm doing what I can on production. In other words I can not currently match my past numbers as the points system and type of wu's offered then to now are not the same and the amount of equipment I have is not the same.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 08:49:34
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^^^ Fair enough - and good use of the word "zeal".
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 09:02:05
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ATGSteakHouse
As it turns out, several of the folks in this thread asking questions about our low numbers are in fact part of the problem - leaving for other teams, not folding because they received a PM they didn't like, getting banned on other forums, putting down EVGA Hardware etc. etc. I will not comment any further on this hypocrisy as obviously it is pointless, they simply refuse to accept any responsibility in the matter which is a shame. For if we continue down this road, then Yes we will fall to #2.
So my challenge to Kram & shdb is this - You two start hammering out Work Units for Team EVGA as you once did -
http://folding.extremeove...ry.php?s=&u=521115
http://folding.extremeove...ry.php?s=&u=521689
And I will quit the crunching team and Fold Full Force For EVGA - All 9 Machines
P67A-GD65-i5 05/01/2012 14:49:46 0:194:10:46:34 1,256,216 1,779
P5QSEPLUS 05/01/2012 13:06:08 0:126:03:37:11 442,654 663
HSP1796 05/01/2012 12:48:21 1:123:19:42:25 1,247,082 1,619
P55-LE 05/01/2012 11:49:06 0:346:01:32:44 2,031,918 2,980
z68-sli-2500k-2 05/01/2012 11:01:44 0:100:00:14:27 757,298 1,033
X79-SLI-i7-3820 05/01/2012 10:41:33 0:125:20:47:06 720,457 1,101
z68-sli-2500k 05/01/2012 08:23:28 0:150:19:32:03 1,059,284 1,457
P5KPL-AM-SE 04/30/2012 22:33:38 0:241:07:10:31 907,529 1,140
P55-LE-i7-875K 04/30/2012 14:06:17 1:135:18:03:52 2,069,070 2,875
And those are mostly EVGA Machines so you know they will run rock solid.
You lost me. Fold if you want to... crunch if you want to. Fold and/or crunch where you want to. It would be really cool and appreciated if you did chose Team EVGA folding though. As for me, I'm NOT bringing any of my CPU's back to folding (ANYWHERE). They'll stay crunching for EVGA cause PG has no projects for them that I can limit to or interest me lately. Maybe that'll change... maybe it won't. Hanging and waiting. My 4 GPU's are back here for the CC. But I have other teams that I fold for as well, the'll just have to deal without any gpus for the duration of the CC. Sean
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 09:22:33
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^^^ Fair enough - and good use of the word "zeal".
You're always welcome to send me a SR-2, a couple X5690 cpu's and memory. I'll cover the rest with water cooling and keep it cool in my basement. 
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 09:24:24
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I don't understand why so many people are so bent out of shape due to people leaving. People will always come and go, for various reasons and that's just apart of folding life. Let's not lose sight of the real goal and the reasons why we all fold. Everyone has a different reason for folding, anywhere from being affected by cancer or having a loved one affected to just for fun and community.
All this bickering and drama about who left, why they left and who's doing what is putting a really bad light and a really great cause.
Let's all be adults here and just let it be. Let's focus on our folding and our reasons and help one another to achieve our ultimate goal.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 09:31:08
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Several posts have now gone woefully off subject and if this thread continues this thread will be locked. This is the final warning.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 09:55:44
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That would woefully be a very good idea at this point. Not sure you should even wait any longer. JIMO, YMMV.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 10:29:00
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Guys, please don't tear yourselves up over whether or not people crunching has had an affect on your team. People come and go from DC projects all the time, especially in these economic conditions. Over at [H] we have lost several very heavy hitters and about 200 folders overall in the last few months to both other DC projects and life itself. We have respected their decisions, picked up the slack and will welcome them back with open arms should they decide to rejoin us.
As a team your efforts over the last few years have turned us from 3m PPD team into what we are today and done the same to yours. That in itself is an acheievment you should all be proud of.
Fold On!!
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 10:31:59
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ATGSteakHouse, I understand your zeal (  ) but the worst thing you can do to this team is pointing fingers to others, linking to their EOC stats page, and "demonstrating" (in your thinking) that their opinion is not valid because they've stopped folding for some reason. Each and everybody has their own personal dynamics in continuing and/or stopping folding. The more this is done in this team, the more people you will lose. This is one of the major reasons I left: finger pointing and alienation (directly or indirectly). Just fold on! 
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 10:37:48
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Well hopefully I can get in before the lock lol
Anyways, lurk here from time to time. Reading this thread and I saw the cor hack thingy brought up. Just wanted to throw some light on this, not sure what its worth, because it seems some people are set in their mindsets already, but FWIW...
First off I don't even think something like that existed lol. I'm pretty sure that most people realized that he was talking about a hypothetical scenario, but it seems that that has been switched around meaning wise and people think that we are all using this mystical program. Hopefully people realize that this is not the case
Also, not sure why people would think that we would support that. I mean, as much as I hate to admit it we pretty much burn people at the stake for that kind of thing lol. Actually, let me clarify, we do it to people that push it or support it. I'm sure deep down we have a couple users who do it, just like every team, but we'll probly never find out who it is in all honesty. Where some people would think we have a secret society of underground corehackers (sounds much cooler out loud lol) just makes me lol. The forums are open to anyone, both our IRC pages are open and can be gone in by anyone at anytime. I guess there will always be a conspiracy theory in every crowd. I mean, come on, we all know the Pyramids were actually alien landing zones.
Not sure what my word is worth but for what it is worth, trust me, there's no agenda or sub-group of the team pushing some theoretical reverse core hack thingy. Amaruk (not sure who you are but good job lol) seems to have summed it up pretty well, and thanks tex and company for not being trolled lol. Punchy if you think that thats on you, but I invite you to hang out with us more and you'll see there's nothing we hide. Well, we hide 2 things, the B&T's, but thats another story lol
Just like with low producing WU's over the last few years, we take this new step in stride and go from there. my SR2 before I sold it went from like 80k when I got it, then to nearly 200k on some units after a few months, and by the time I sold it it was barely scraping over 90-95k, 140 or so on my dual hex one. This has happened to us for years over every client, and will continue to happen, and we'll continue to roll with the punches.
Were beating yall out right now for one reason and one reason only really, we've put a ton of resources into folding in the last year. I mean, seriously, look at our forums and see all the DOZENS of threads about people building a new 4P rig, or their second or third one, and we even designed a BIOS now (tear) to OC a majority of those chips, adding even more ppd, or better yet adding a buffer against these new WU's. Tons of those systems exist. We've always been like that tho, I mean hell, back in the day there was a lot of 50 hex core chips for SR2's on Ebay, in something like an hour or so we had a feeding frenzy (we still call it that, no joke lol) and bought 47 of them as a team if I recall. They were almost all in SR2's within 2 weeks.
Seriously, you guys don't need to feel bad or wonder why it's happening, it's just because we've out hardwared you guys for the moment. No need to cause any fighting amongst your team mates here about this reason or that, because they are all moot (especially the crunching one, btw) for their own reasons, and at the end of the day he with the most and fastest hardware wins, too simple.
You guys led us on a hell of a run for first place a while ago when you had the hardware advantage (GPU's were huge back then), now we have the ball and were running with it. Just the nature of the beast really. I hope you guys can quit fighting amongst yourselves, as well as get this stupid core hack notion out of your minds, and hopefully we can both have a clean and classy run to the finish.
And like someone said a while back, what's so wrong with being #2? Yall act like it's the end of the world. It didnt end us (look at the charts for goodness sake lol), it sure as hell aint gonna end you guys if you don't let it. And you shouldnt, we need you guys, youre like the only team left that can put up an effort against us if need be, as much as we talk crap about each other we both need that, because there are no other running partners lol
Fold on and good luck!
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kram36
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Re:this is damn depressing
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I remember BWM was using some sort of code that would get only certain -bigadv wu's or it wouldn't refuse the low ppd wu's, can't remember exactly what the wife said and her post got deleted. So it can be done, she admitted to it and it's not mystical.
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 10:46:54
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kram36
I remember BWM was using some sort of code that would get only certain -bigadv wu's or it wouldn't refuse the low ppd wu's, can't remember exactly what the wife said and her post got deleted. So it can be done, she admitted to it and it's not mystical.
They used a script that would query what sever they were being assigned to and drop the connection if it was not the -bigadv server. I think they custom made this themselves as i've never seen it mentioned on any of the top teams. OH and BTW BWM are no longer folding, proves what they were in it for
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Re:this is damn depressing
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^^^ Yes, and don't mistake this thread as a major upheaval at EVGA - although we don't always agree - we ALWAYS stick together as a Team. Even with all the issues Kram and I have had - I would still have a beer and talk about women with him. Hell, in private - I might even tell him the RIVE is a "good" motherboard - well maybe not "good" but I might say "decent". (same for shb) So do us a favor and don't pronounce the patient dead while the Heart is still beating. We're still Number 1 - and we don't intend to give up that spot easily...
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 10:51:48
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Hello all, Looks like I missed something! There shouldn't be any fighting over this downturn in points Is something bad going to happen come 6months from now if this team isn't in first? Please don't say things that can hurt someone for no reason, are there people in the world that we are trying to help by doing this work. If the people who everyone here is trying to help seened the way we are acting I truly think they would say " No Thanks". Again sorry if I made anyone Mad!
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Re:this is damn depressing
2012/05/01 10:55:54
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Thanks for stopping by Nathan and Vaulter...what you said was very well put and is the [H] that I've come to know by visiting your site each day. Every time I see 'yall post about "beer and tamales" I get a craving that you wouldn't believe...sure do miss TexMex food.
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Re:this is damn depressing
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ATGSteakHouse
We're still Number 1 - and we don't intend to give up that spot easily...
You'd better warm it all up - everything you got. Cause we're coming for you and we're stopping for nothing - too many diseases to be crushed. Fold on everyone!! 
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