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2011/06/07 13:33:59 (permalink)
I just got my new system and started up the CPU client (from here http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download) and it said I was only getting ~360PPD my old E8500 got the same so what did I screw up? in comparison my 570 is getting ~13000PPD at stock settings
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/07 14:16:04 (permalink)
Did you put the -smp flag on it? You might only be running on one core getting normal units.


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/07 14:27:40 (permalink)
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/07 14:38:21 (permalink)
where do I add the -smp?
but shouldn't the program without the "-smp" be able to run through the work unit quickly? FahMon said it would take 4+ hrs.
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/07 15:12:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
When you configure the client go into advanced options and add -smp to the addition parameters field.(might be additional arguments, not sure)
 
-smp x (where x is number of cores) if you want to limit it to a certain amount of cores.
but shouldn't the program without the "-smp" be able to run through the work unit quickly? FahMon said it would take 4+ hrs.

It's only doing a regular single core unit. Which means no bonus points, so doing it a little faster only generates more ppd linearly, so depending on the clock of the e8500 and the 2500 you might not see a huge improvement.
 
Make sure to put your passkey in, after 10 completed smp/bigadv units it will give bonus points.
post edited by Scott_J - 2011/06/07 15:15:42


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/07 15:49:21 (permalink)
Scott_J

When you configure the client go into advanced options and add -smp to the addition parameters field.(might be additional arguments, not sure)

-smp x (where x is number of cores) if you want to limit it to a certain amount of cores.
but shouldn't the program without the "-smp" be able to run through the work unit quickly? FahMon said it would take 4+ hrs.

It's only doing a regular single core unit. Which means no bonus points, so doing it a little faster only generates more ppd linearly, so depending on the clock of the e8500 and the 2500 you might not see a huge improvement.

Make sure to put your passkey in, after 10 completed smp/bigadv units it will give bonus points.

Thank you very much!
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 08:40:53 (permalink)
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Scott_J

When you configure the client go into advanced options and add -smp to the addition parameters field.(might be additional arguments, not sure)

-smp x (where x is number of cores) if you want to limit it to a certain amount of cores.
but shouldn't the program without the "-smp" be able to run through the work unit quickly? FahMon said it would take 4+ hrs.

It's only doing a regular single core unit. Which means no bonus points, so doing it a little faster only generates more ppd linearly, so depending on the clock of the e8500 and the 2500 you might not see a huge improvement.

Make sure to put your passkey in, after 10 completed smp/bigadv units it will give bonus points.

Thank you very much!

 
how much do you get now? :)


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 08:42:50 (permalink)
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Scott_J

When you configure the client go into advanced options and add -smp to the addition parameters field.(might be additional arguments, not sure)

-smp x (where x is number of cores) if you want to limit it to a certain amount of cores.
but shouldn't the program without the "-smp" be able to run through the work unit quickly? FahMon said it would take 4+ hrs.

It's only doing a regular single core unit. Which means no bonus points, so doing it a little faster only generates more ppd linearly, so depending on the clock of the e8500 and the 2500 you might not see a huge improvement.

Make sure to put your passkey in, after 10 completed smp/bigadv units it will give bonus points.

Thank you very much!


how much do you get now? :)

just coming to update, currently I'm getting zero PPD , when I start up the client its CTDs after maybe 10 seconds. I also tried the SMP client from folding@home (the one that uses the command prompt) and that doesn't work either. My GPU client works fine though 
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 08:56:27 (permalink)
go with this one!
 
http://fahtracker.com/
 
i use it, easy to set up, easy to control! :)..
 
this is defenently one of the best one's out there, i make about 12-13k ppd on my 4.2ghz 2500k and running nicely! :)
 
if u need further help just PM me or something! :)


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 08:58:04 (permalink)
Scott_J

When you configure the client go into advanced options and add -smp to the addition parameters field.(might be additional arguments, not sure)

-smp x (where x is number of cores) if you want to limit it to a certain amount of cores.
but shouldn't the program without the "-smp" be able to run through the work unit quickly? FahMon said it would take 4+ hrs.

It's only doing a regular single core unit. Which means no bonus points, so doing it a little faster only generates more ppd linearly, so depending on the clock of the e8500 and the 2500 you might not see a huge improvement.

Make sure to put your passkey in, after 10 completed smp/bigadv units it will give bonus points.

 
the 2500k can't make bigadv units btw ;D.. but nicely written


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 09:28:03 (permalink)
OK, its set up, currently it says 484 points for the SMP, 1280 for the GPU; how long does it take to calculate PPD?
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 09:29:56 (permalink)
about when the WU makes 1 or 2 maybe 3 percent :).. 

i just +1'ed your system! :)
post edited by IstBarP - 2011/06/08 09:32:22


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 09:44:23 (permalink)
well the Track is claiming only 6248.1 on GPU and 8432.9 on CPU; I read that having the GPU and CPU active slows them both down, is that true? If that's not true why is my PPD so low (just the 570 going gets about ~14,000PPD). According to this thread you can run bigadv on an i5 especially if you OC it to 4.5+
http://www.overclock.net/...1006070-2500k-ppd.html
Edit: SMP: 9203.4, GPU: 6411.1
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 09:54:09 (permalink)
are ur cpu overclocked?,, 

and ur gpu should rise some more,, i have a gts 450 that makes 9k ppd.. but give it some time :).. not allways the accurate number showing on the first few percent :).. 

except the only way u can run bigadv, is running linux since it can trick the cpu into believing it got Hyper Threading :)..  
 
and yes it is true that if u have both of them turned on they will slow each other, but again, you should make more points having both on than having just one of them :)
post edited by IstBarP - 2011/06/08 09:58:07


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 09:59:24 (permalink)
Make sure you have your priorities and affinities set. Download Process Lasso and set your cpu to use 3 cores and your gpu to use the last core.
Guide can be found here:
http://forums.evga.com...x?m=957005&mpage=1
In your case it would be core A3 instead of core A5.
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 10:02:18 (permalink)
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Make sure you have your priorities and affinities set. Download Process Lasso and set your cpu to use 3 cores and your gpu to use the last core.
Guide can be found here:
http://forums.evga.com...x?m=957005&mpage=1
In your case it would be core A3 instead of core A5.


should make the same amount of points without it.. doesn't have mine set though, cuz if u say u have one less core to fold with on cpu, u will loose some points, and then again, it is about the same amount of points u will loose by running them both together ?..


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 10:08:47 (permalink)
What is your clock speed?

My computer finds cures for diseases and searches for aliens when I'm not gaming...what does yours do?
 
 
 
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 10:17:12 (permalink)
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dubzhouse

Make sure you have your priorities and affinities set. Download Process Lasso and set your cpu to use 3 cores and your gpu to use the last core.
Guide can be found here:
http://forums.evga.com...x?m=957005&mpage=1
In your case it would be core A3 instead of core A5.


should make the same amount of points without it.. doesn't have mine set though, cuz if u say u have one less core to fold with on cpu, u will loose some points, and then again, it is about the same amount of points u will loose by running them both together ?..

 
With the cpu and gpu using the same cores they are fighting for cpu cycles to complete the wu's. I had an i5 750 clocked at 4.2 and would get 9k ppd and two 460's running as well. His gpu should be quite a bit more than the 6500k he is reporting.
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 10:18:33 (permalink)
sorry guys I'm not at home right now (using my phone to post :D) I'll update you when I get back
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 10:20:04 (permalink)
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Make sure you have your priorities and affinities set. Download Process Lasso and set your cpu to use 3 cores and your gpu to use the last core.
Guide can be found here:
http://forums.evga.com...x?m=957005&mpage=1
In your case it would be core A3 instead of core A5.


should make the same amount of points without it.. doesn't have mine set though, cuz if u say u have one less core to fold with on cpu, u will loose some points, and then again, it is about the same amount of points u will loose by running them both together ?..


With the cpu and gpu using the same cores they are fighting for cpu cycles to complete the wu's. I had an i5 750 clocked at 4.2 and would get 9k ppd and two 460's running as well. His gpu should be quite a bit more than the 6500k he is reporting.

 
i know, and as i reported even my gts 450 makes more than that.. but still .. the i5 should be able to handle it.. i had 2 gpu's before, a gts 250 and a gts 450, and i still made 12k ppd on cpu, 8-9k ppd on gts 450 and 5-6k on gts 250.. my i5 at 4.2ghz can handle it without affinities


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 11:08:10 (permalink)
currently I'm getting
SMP: 7744
GPU: 6467.4
I guess I should OC my CPU, but does anyone if OCs cause CTDs in BFBC2?
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 11:58:58 (permalink)
OK I OC'd my CPU to 4Ghz and am now getting 11,945.9 on CPU, combined 18,528. But on my 570 its still low so I'm going to try  what dubzhouse suggested and report back.
My oc is decent but it runs a little hot 61*C in a 71*F room. So I'm not sure how much higher I should go, idk maybe I need to reapply thermal paste.

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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:03:02 (permalink)
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OK I OC'd my CPU to 4Ghz and am now getting 11,945.9 on CPU, combined 18,528. But on my 570 its still low so I'm going to try  what dubzhouse suggested and report back.
My oc is decent but it runs a little hot 61*C in a 71*F room. So I'm not sure how much higher I should go, idk maybe I need to reapply thermal paste.

 
What vcore did it take for you to get 4.0 stable? 

My computer finds cures for diseases and searches for aliens when I'm not gaming...what does yours do?
 
 
 
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:04:16 (permalink)
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currently I'm getting
SMP: 7744
GPU: 6467.4
I guess I should OC my CPU, but does anyone if OCs cause CTDs in BFBC2?


seems bad on the gpu.. u sure u set it up right? .. 

1. in the tracker, press setup, then configure,
2. under client settings, press autodetect GPU's. 
3. then it should say something liike NVIDIA Fermi,
4. under cpu set it to multicore smp client, and use all cores..  
5. under tracker settings, select team and write name, remember it is case sensitive.. 
 
and remove all heat control and fold to the max 
 
tell me if something is different, from what i told u! :) and if ur settings is the same as the guide! :)


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:06:19 (permalink)
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OK I OC'd my CPU to 4Ghz and am now getting 11,945.9 on CPU, combined 18,528. But on my 570 its still low so I'm going to try  what dubzhouse suggested and report back.
My oc is decent but it runs a little hot 61*C in a 71*F room. So I'm not sure how much higher I should go, idk maybe I need to reapply thermal paste.


What vcore did it take for you to get 4.0 stable? 


my i5-2500k is running with standard voltages at 4.2 ghz stable :).. 


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:19:29 (permalink)
OK, in the config it says "Enable GPU3 client" that's checked, should it be?
Anyway I think I'll go back to the folding@home client GPU 'cause that one gave me higher PPD while staying with the GPU tracker for my SMP client. Also FahMon agrees withe GPU tracker expect in credits, it says my CPU's WU is worth 2688 while Tracker says its only worth 484/
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:40:48 (permalink)
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OK, in the config it says "Enable GPU3 client" that's checked, should it be?
Anyway I think I'll go back to the folding@home client GPU 'cause that one gave me higher PPD while staying with the GPU tracker for my SMP client. Also FahMon agrees withe GPU tracker expect in credits, it says my CPU's WU is worth 2688 while Tracker says its only worth 484/

 
484 is the base credit without bonus. As the tracker completes wu's and logs what your TPF and PPD are, it will fill those in automatically when you get the wu again. If you get a new wu that you've never ran before, it will require 3% completed before it can estimate the PPD and report back a TPF. 
 
I would let the wu finish up and see what you get. The numbers you are getting are not accurate because you haven't even completed one wu on either client yet. 
 
What wu is your GPU running? What is the TPF?

My computer finds cures for diseases and searches for aliens when I'm not gaming...what does yours do?
 
 
 
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:42:50 (permalink)
lol I think I may have "found" the issue on my GPU. I was looking through E-LEET and noticed it was set at 405/810/324 which means its in "underclock mode" So I figured that E-Leet was messed up but Precision confirms the lock clock. So for some reason the GPU client isn't fully using my GPU, why I have no idea, however, I'm definitely going back to the stand alone GPU client.
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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:48:11 (permalink)
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lol I think I may have "found" the issue on my GPU. I was looking through E-LEET and noticed it was set at 405/810/324 which means its in "underclock mode" So I figured that E-Leet was messed up but Precision confirms the lock clock. So for some reason the GPU client isn't fully using my GPU, why I have no idea, however, I'm definitely going back to the stand alone GPU client.


restart ur computer, my graphics card does that some times too.. going down to 405 in core clock.. it is either msi afterburner og precision doing it :/.. some safe mode.. found out that restarting ones comp helps! :).. by doing so it is not in "safe" mode anymore.. even some times when i play league of legends it jumps down in clock (405) and the game starts laggin immidiately! :/


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Re:really low PPD on I5-2500K 2011/06/08 12:48:16 (permalink)
Why run two different programs to fold if you don't have to?
 

My computer finds cures for diseases and searches for aliens when I'm not gaming...what does yours do?
 
 
 
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