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2013/08/08 11:02:54
poizin
ahhh that makes sense.  thanks.
 
is that more or less cost effective than high end gpus?
2013/08/08 11:40:48
Zagen30
poizin
is that more or less cost effective than high end gpus? 

 
Depends on one's price point.  
 
A number of people have built "ankle-biters", which use older Socket F AMD chips; these at best do around 150-250k PPD depending on project selection and cost ~$500-$600.  The closest GPU is a GTX 780 that runs $650 and does around 150-180k PPD, though it will use a lot less power, so long-term PPD/total cost of ownership may be in the 780's favor.  The danger with ankle-biters is that there's no upgrade path.  At some point the future PG will increase the minimum specs for completing bigadv, and these might not be able to make the new deadlines.  I don't see this happening all that soon, however; the main reason for upping the bigadv core count form 8 to 16 was to weed out all the single i7's people were running, but since then neither Intel nor AMD has increased the core count on their consumer CPUs all that much.
 
Once you start moving into the $1000+ range, 4P's start to become much more cost effective.  Most people go 4P AMD G34.  The PPD range is kind of large, especially since the better you get the more 8101's drag in comparison to the other bigadv projects.  There's also the question of how much you OC the chips (only possible on certain mobos with a custom bios).  I think people have gotten as high as 650k PPD for ~$1500 of parts.  A single Titan runs $1000 and does 200k PPD, while dual 780s would run $1300 and at best do 360k. 
2013/08/08 11:59:38
BadBertie
Hey Johnerz, I reckon life is a bit of a trade-off anyway.
I've no grief about folding but no Missus either. I have a job but it's quite a millstone too.
Folding brings a nice little spark and we all do what we can eh?
It will be a while before I hit the top 100 let alone top 75 but that's my goal.
I've got Tanner2 to thank for a great rig and getting me totally sucked into to 4P machines.
@Jini - did you oc the other rig yet?
2013/08/09 03:42:14
johnerz
I'm running the 670 for a few days so you have dropped of my six 
 
But I will see you back again I'm sure. It will take a while before I can afford to replace the 670, I'll need some good bucks from it, my EVGA bucks and some cash that I'm slowly putting to one side from my free!!!!! cash.
The 780 looks great from the thread on here, but I expect I'll have trouble getting there - I may just buy a lotto ticket for tonight and see if my luck is in, I don't need the top prize (never say no) but just a few hundred would be great - but a few thousand and then I'll run my 4P and dual 780's 24/7.....lol
2013/08/09 04:33:04
mflanaga
Congrats to all the recent milestones everybody!!
Thanks to all of you for folding!!
 
Now if we can just catch up to those high falutin' [H]'ers..lol  
2013/08/09 04:55:18
jinihammerer
BadBertie

@Jini - did you oc the other rig yet?

 
Naaa still running stock clocks. i'll wait till cooler days for OCing it. battling to keep the house under 80 as it is.
2013/08/09 15:22:24
poizin
Zagen30 

poizin 
is that more or less cost effective than high end gpus?  
 

Depends on one's price point.   

A number of people have built "ankle-biters", which use older Socket F AMD chips; these at best do around 150-250k PPD depending on project selection and cost ~$500-$600.  The closest GPU is a GTX 780 that runs $650 and does around 150-180k PPD, though it will use a lot less power, so long-term PPD/total cost of ownership may be in the 780's favor.  The danger with ankle-biters is that there's no upgrade path.  At some point the future PG will increase the minimum specs for completing bigadv, and these might not be able to make the new deadlines.  I don't see this happening all that soon, however; the main reason for upping the bigadv core count form 8 to 16 was to weed out all the single i7's people were running, but since then neither Intel nor AMD has increased the core count on their consumer CPUs all that much. 

Once you start moving into the $1000+ range, 4P's start to become much more cost effective.  Most people go 4P AMD G34.  The PPD range is kind of large, especially since the better you get the more 8101's drag in comparison to the other bigadv projects.  There's also the question of how much you OC the chips (only possible on certain mobos with a custom bios).  I think people have gotten as high as 650k PPD for ~$1500 of parts.  A single Titan runs $1000 and does 200k PPD, while dual 780s would run $1300 and at best do 360k.  
 

 
That is more than the best answer I could have expected.  Thank you very much!
2013/08/09 15:36:46
bill1024
Keep an eye on e-bay you can grab a socket F board with ram for just over 100$ and then 4 cpus from 45-85$ each. A PSU in the 650 watt range. A 4P with 4 8425 hexcore cpus 24 core total.
Will do around 125-180,000PPD I paid 350$ Not counting the psu I had sitting around.
It uses 317 watts at the wall running @ 100% load.
2013/08/12 22:28:10
quagmir
60 mil
2013/08/13 00:13:34
hellmel
Hit 70 million sometime yesterday

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