2014/05/04 06:35:35
EVGATech_DaveB
What temp are you at under load?  You are on a hefty SS Phase, so it's not LN2 but it is still dang COLD.
2014/05/04 09:28:36
hallowen
EVGATech_DaveB
What temp are you at under load?  You are on a hefty SS Phase, so it's not LN2 but it is still dang COLD.


 
The New SS is at -40C at the Evap Head and holding the 4930K CPU at -10C to -12C (ASUS ROG Controller Reading) During the Fire Strike Graphics Tests.
During the Physics and Combined Tests the CPU temp rises Breifly to as much as +21C  which is MUCH better than my Vapochill XE was, But I STILL cannot get this 4930K OC'd more than it's Limit of 5.2GHz! 
 
On the Brighter Side, I'm going to be receiving a "Loaner" 3960X which should be here Monday to do some Further "Testing and Development" and see if it will OC more than 5.2GHz.
 
 
 
2014/05/04 09:56:11
EVGATech_DaveB
Almost hoping its a temp limitation, then there is a reason to go to a Cascade, where the temp difference between that which is sustainable (ie not having to refill it constantly) is a lot closer to the LN2 temp which you need to be, maybe you just need to get it colder-er .
2014/05/04 10:45:48
hallowen
EVGATech_DaveB
Almost hoping its a temp limitation, then there is a reason to go to a Cascade, where the temp difference between that which is sustainable (ie not having to refill it constantly) is a lot closer to the LN2 temp which you need to be, maybe you just need to get it colder-er .




Oh I'm Pretty Positive it's due to a Temperature Limitation and although It MIGHT go higher on the Cascade If I were to "Resurrect it" as is, It would have to be completely redesigned for handling (and HOLDING) a Higher Heat Load than it was originally setup for with a Single Core LGA478 3.2GHz ES CPU and not the current Hexa-core LGA2011's.
 
Even though I have been discussing LN2 setups/What to Buy/How to do it on the Kinpincooling.com Forums, Obviously I'm Sure that You see by now that I REALLY don't want to use LN2 Cooling, JUST to see how close I can come with a "Conventional" Cooling Setup.
 
Besides having All that to worry about, I don't know what's going to work with cooling solutions for the Next Gen Octa-core CPU's/GPU's/MB's that are getting Ever so much closer to being Released?
 
 
2014/05/04 11:26:56
EVGATech_DaveB
True, I can definitely see your point, however, while it hasn't been announced, I would assume that the wattage output would be somewhat close to the current Ivy Hex cores, I know there is tuning involved with SS or Cascade, but, it might be something you start rebuilding now, and if it works on your X79, great, if not you can still have it prepping for X99.
2014/05/04 13:58:08
hallowen
As far as Cooling for the CPU, There would be somewhat of a problem to consider with additional Noise/Power Usage (Three refrigeration units running instead of the current Two), Although it hasn't Stopped me as of Yet from attempting to improve on my Testing/Benching Sessions every chance I get. 
 
My Main Focus lately is towards finding better Cooling on the Graphics Cards using solutions that will work with Minimal Operating Maintenance in a 24/7 System, Since they definitely impact the Various Benchmark Scores based on High GPU/Memory Overclocks.
 
For Example,........ I was thinking (daydreaming) about running just a Single KPE using my Vapochill XE for sub-zero cooling and probably would get a Much Higher 1X GPU OC/Benchmark Score than on just chilled water cooling.
The Funny thing about that situation is I also happen to have Three More Vapochill XE's laying around, But I would have to find a different way to attach the Vapo head to the GPU if I wanted to cool more than One Graphics Card.
 
Call me Crazy, But I've even been considering PCIe RISERS for clearance purposes and I'm sure you could picture in your Mind what THAT System would look like!
    
2014/05/04 14:24:38
johnksss
build it like a mining rig.
2014/05/04 14:47:15
hallowen
johnksss
build it like a mining rig.




LOL!, That was the general Idea I had in Mind, But whether or not it will become a reality is still in the planning stage.
 
 
2014/05/05 07:07:28
hallowen
While I was still continuing to think about using Vapochills for sub-zero cooling the Graphics Cards previously discussed before, I started wondering and researching once again in an attempt to learn more about the use of DICE and LN2 and came upon some interesting facts that had Not crossed my mind on the Cautions you must take when using these cryogens in an Enclosed Room with No adequate Ventilation OR even inside an air conditioned room in your Home!
 
I read that a researcher at a University recently experienced headaches, light headedness and difficulty breathing while using a centrifuge in a room which was storing just dry ice.
Although the researcher was able to escape with no effects, this hazard alert warns all persons working with dry ice (CO2) or liquid nitrogen (LN2) about the dangers of using them in unventilated rooms.
Normal air is made up of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and only 0.035% carbon dioxide. If the concentration of carbon dioxide in the air rises above 0.5%, carbon dioxide can become dangerous as it is toxic and acts as an asphyxiant  (displaces the oxygen in the air we breathe). Likewise, liquid nitrogen expands to a gas and can asphyxiate an exposed person if the room is poorly ventilated.
 
This got me to realize that it's not just the hazard as I understood of possibly spilling/coming in contact with these cryogens, But since I am Always inside my air conditioned home (in Florida) with No open ventilation while running System benches for hours on end, there is a possibility of asphyxiation occurring if I were to use these cryogens for sub-zero cooling over an extended period of time while Benching!
 
There apparently is much more to learn about the Safe use of cryogens for cooling computer system components than I had even realized before, which now after being better informed is one of the main reasons I continue with my current cooling methods that you can run continuously without the possibility of Passing Out!
 
 
2014/05/05 18:26:23
hallowen
YEEHAW!..........I dedicate this First Run with the 3960X at 5.4GHz to Fellow EVGA Member doorules!
 

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