2011/06/22 16:12:07
johnksss
dont think anyone is out in that area..
you can get another flex line from runmc or ron mccall at undertheice.com. 
 
you cant really fill it to what they would try to do...it will be seriously under charged.
 
it has to be vacuumed out then welded then vacuumed again then charged....usually takes a few days. (that's if you want to be super careful.
2011/06/22 16:12:22
Halo_003
You should be able to replace the flex line if you can braze.
2011/06/22 16:36:23
ty_ger07
johnksss

you cant really fill it to what they would try to do...it will be seriously under charged.


So you are saying they would put way too little refrigerant in?  The guy I talked to on the phone said he thought the system would probably take 6-8 ounces and would take about an hour to repair.  One hour is much shorter than two days.  So his work is probably no good?
 
Yeah, I was looking at parts at undertheice a bit earlier.  But having parts is not the same as having the equipment to do the work.
 
Halo_003 

You should be able to replace the flex line if you can braze. 
 
 
It is the suction side, right?
2011/06/22 16:42:36
Halo_003
I think so yeah, but maybe not.
2011/06/22 19:26:06
johnksss
yes. it's the suction line. and brazing flex is not the easiest of things to do. it melts pretty damn quick if you use to much heat. and finding the right flex line is no easy task either. that's why i said get it from ron. fixing it is not the issue...it's charging it. and then you have to vacuum down which takes far longer than an hour. it's usually done over 24 hours or so. (the infamous triple evac) i get a kick out of hearing people say that..rotfl!
and they have the right vacuum pumps to pull it down fast.....me...yes, i would do it in an hour because well...dont really care about a triple evac at the moment. lol. i just fix it, vacuum down for like 30 minutes then charge away. haha
 
if your flex is broken at either end...then just cut the broken part off. be careful that you dont cut the cap tube...in the older models...it's usually in the suction line.
2011/06/22 22:13:23
RBIEZE
ty_ger07

johnksss

you cant really fill it to what they would try to do...it will be seriously under charged.


So you are saying they would put way too little refrigerant in?  The guy I talked to on the phone said he thought the system would probably take 6-8 ounces and would take about an hour to repair.  One hour is much shorter than two days.  So his work is probably no good?

Yeah, I was looking at parts at undertheice a bit earlier.  But having parts is not the same as having the equipment to do the work.

Halo_003 

You should be able to replace the flex line if you can braze. 
 

It is the suction side, right?

 
The only way to reliably charge an unknown system is with a load on it.
 
If its a captube system, its whats called a critical charged system.
Overcharging will slug the compressor, undercharging will reduce the load capacity and cause surging.
It cannot be reliably charged without a thermal load, because there will be no relevant superheat or subcooling values to charge by...
 
Thats why we use load testers when setting up a system.
If its an oem system, it should have a nameplate with a charge value.
2011/06/22 22:39:50
johnksss
indeed.
2011/06/23 00:32:43
ty_ger07
johnksss
 if your flex is broken at either end...then just cut the broken part off. be careful that you dont cut the cap tube...in the older models...it's usually in the suction line.

Yes, it is broken about 3/4" from the phase change unit end of the flex tube.  I figured it shouldn't be too hard to cut it at the break, remove the broken chunk, and braze the remainder of the flex tube back on if the person had the necessary skills and equipment.
2011/06/23 14:25:17
ty_ger07
Hmm... maybe I will just let him give it a go and see what happens.  It's not too expensive and if it doesn't work, there are always more expensive parts and more expensive people to take it to in the future to get it working properly.
2011/06/23 16:07:38
johnksss
they can fix it...but if i were you...i would take my computer over there so they can make sure it's properly charged for your application. have them add a high and a low side valve if it isnt already on there. then you can play with it from there. buy a cheap vacuum pump and some ac gauges and your partially set..

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