johnksss he was trying to get them all and i sort of put the smash down and made it kind of hard...he'll need to upgrade his cooling i suspect in the end.... 2001se was his latest grab i was at 17294 then he trumped me at 17.5. so i went back and hit 18.1 http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7404 which pretty much puts all my 7300 se scores in a nice region...away from the competition...lol that guy is an over clocking guru...if you ask me. http://hwbot.org/community/user/true_monkey