Thanks Sniper. I thought maybe you flashed the bios to MSI.
xxrabid....yea, that you would like to know before you just buy any old 58XX series card!

I'm having problems getting the voltage to increase on the XFX 5870 I have. I can flash to the Asus BIOS, which gives me an increase from 1.12 to 1.163 using asus smart doctor.
I'm not even sure how it does that increase because when I edit the asus bios with RBE Radeon BIOS editor, it says there are no voltages to choose from. Evidently if there is not a list of voltages in the editor program to choose from, then the voltage is not changeable.
I think awalleye has the same card as me...the non-reference fan model.