2010/02/10 14:37:27
Rudster816
nateman_doo

johnksss

where did he say...negative 50 at? i thought he was talking about 50c???


Page 3 is where I measured the temps with thermal probe. 


Rudster:  That was -50° C with 1.7 volts poured into Q6600.  for just an afternoon of benching I did pretty will with that Q6600.  I think the results speak for itself.  Think of it as getting your feet wet? 


What was the swing? The difference between the temps at idle and under 3D load (Vantage CPU)?

[14:33:58] Rudster816: Vokl

[14:34:13] Rudster816: Whats the highest temp youve seen your DICE pot go to?

[14:34:16] Rudster816: under load

[14:34:42] voklskier4452: over 9000

[14:35:07] knightsilver: Vok, would snow boarding or skiing be to far from inline skating?

[14:35:09] Rudster816: Nate's ghetto one hit -50c with a Q6600 at 1.7v, wouldnt it be safe to assume the same pot wouldnt be able to hold a decent swing on an i7?

[14:35:56] voklskier4452: with HT

[14:35:58] voklskier4452: no


Thats what I just asked Vokl who has done quite a bit of DICE benching.


2010/02/10 14:41:52
johnksss
so what does 9000 mean?
2010/02/10 15:09:42
nateman_doo
there is lots of swing.  The temps will drop very rapidly, or rise very quickly if your not watching.  There are improvements that can be made with that particular dice pot, as in solder one of those enzotech north bridge arrangements to the inside sweatcap.  That would triple the about of mass of the baseplate touching the CPU.  I didn't choose to do this because I don't have any, and no matter how much dice I threw in there, the chip would not give anymore. 

EVGA Tech Shannon said the same thing about his chip, and he was 20° colder.   So if you look at it, the pot works.  You just cannot walk away from it.  It requires you to be there monitoring temps (which you will usually do no matter what pot you have)
2010/02/10 15:20:05
johnksss
Shannon is very knowledgeable about this stuff. think ill give mine a try this weekend....maybe.
fully prep my board then get to it.
2010/02/10 15:43:28
Rudster816
nateman_doo

there is lots of swing.  The temps will drop very rapidly, or rise very quickly if your not watching.  There are improvements that can be made with that particular dice pot, as in solder one of those enzotech north bridge arrangements to the inside sweatcap.  That would triple the about of mass of the baseplate touching the CPU.  I didn't choose to do this because I don't have any, and no matter how much dice I threw in there, the chip would not give anymore. 

EVGA Tech Shannon said the same thing about his chip, and he was 20° colder.   So if you look at it, the pot works.  You just cannot walk away from it.  It requires you to be there monitoring temps (which you will usually do no matter what pot you have)


Well the problem with a large swing is that you might be stable at 4.7ghz with 1.45v at -68c, but than when you put it under load and it raises too high you can loose your stability due to temps. This means you will have to pump more voltage through it.

You need a pot with a good mass to keep an i7 stable. Im not saying you have a bad pot, but the i7 is really picky about temps when doing extreme cooling, and doesnt behave well with high temp swings.
2010/02/10 15:49:49
awalleyeguy
So what type of gpu (stock) cooling is better the typical style squared like the Evga GTX 260,280 or this type here  Did not where else to ask this. (Is about get it colder)  @nate still thinking about cpu pot, also thinking I might want to practice first on  some less than my classy, just to be sure about insulation.
2010/02/10 17:03:51
hellshealer
nateman_doo

want a dice block to go with it?  ;)


lol i would love to have a go at dice but i think my mate would flip if he saw white smoke like gases coming from the board LMAO or all the "gunk" all over the CPU socket and back side of the board..... he isn't really into the whole OC thing..... he would rather buy the $1500 processor because it goes faster out of the box LOL me on the other hand id rather the cheapest one out performing the spensive one hehe
2010/02/10 17:47:03
nateman_doo
awalleyeguy

So what type of gpu (stock) cooling is better the typical style squared like the Evga GTX 260,280 or this type here  Did not where else to ask this. (Is about get it colder)  @nate still thinking about cpu pot, also thinking I might want to practice first on  some less than my classy, just to be sure about insulation.


THIS is what you need.  You need a hacksaw, drill press w/clamp, a torch, some solder, and LOTS of patience!

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2010/02/10 17:53:41
reggiesanchez
wow
2010/02/10 20:15:51
Q56_Monster
You are something else nate!  Just whipped that up did you?

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