2024/04/18 06:10:37
LukeT32
Is anyone else starting to have major issues with there i9 CPUs? I have a launch 13900k that has always been slightly unstable as in crashes occasionally even with the EVGA 5.5 Ghz all core present. Over the last few weeks it's BSOD a few times but games are crashing multiple times a night. I reset the BIOS to defaults and experienced 4 Warzone crashes in 3 hours. With all the reports of 13th/14th i9 issues due to degredation I suspect my CPU has finally had enough. I started an RMA with Intel but hoping someone has some suggestions so my PC is at least usable. It sounds like the RMA process can take several weeks if they even approve it.

https://www.tomshardware....tel-cpus-also-affected
2024/04/18 08:01:11
Cool GTX
thanks for the link
 
Your now using stock clocks & stock voltages?
 
If this started after a Nvidia or Windows update - try going back to last know stable
 
RAM - is it OC (XMP) voltage manually set to RAM Mfg settings?
 
PSU?
 
How stable is the power @ the wall? 
Are you using a UPS with enough capacity for the load you pull?
2024/04/18 09:53:13
LukeT32
Cool GTX
thanks for the link
 
Your now using stock clocks & stock voltages?
 
If this started after a Nvidia or Windows update - try going back to last know stable
 
RAM - is it OC (XMP) voltage manually set to RAM Mfg settings?
 
PSU?
 
How stable is the power @ the wall? 
Are you using a UPS with enough capacity for the load you pull?




I reset to default settings. So whatever the classified runs out of the box on BIOS 2.12 is what it's at now. OTHER then setting XMP


I had complete BSOD 04.14 when playing. Went into BIOS and reset to defaults. 04.16 installed latest Windows 11/Nvidia GPU drivers and restarted before I started playing games as normal. 
 
RAM is set to XMP 1 profile, unsure if voltages are set properly. Not sure if I was using XMP 1 or 2 prior to the BIOS reset.
 
I have a Corsair RM1000x PSU and using the below listed UPS. Purchased in Nov of 2022. My previous unit was only rated for 850 and would trip when doing benchmarks after the 13900k/4090 upgrade. No audible warnings/shut downs like with the old unit. Max draw I have seen was only when running 3D Mark Firestrike was 880ish watts on the display. I have not monitored it while just gaming.
 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N19W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
I should also mention I am streaming at the same time etc. After all the resets to defaults/updates only the game is crashing repeatedly, not a full system crash. Previous is was a 50/50 shot if a full BSOD or just a game crash. FE 4090 is running at default clocks as well.
 
Thanks for helping.
2024/04/18 11:06:33
B0baganoosh
what memory do you have?
 
As per the stability issues, the suggestions out there are to put power limits in place in the BIOS (defaults are 4095W). With 13900k, they're suggesting 253W limit. You shouldn't have to do that though, and even intel's own testing they published didn't do that. I'm more inclined to think that the default V/F curves from intel are too high. They'll probably end up putting out another new micro-code to the motherboard manufacturers, which you won't get on an EVGA motherboard anyway because they're done supporting motherboards with stability updates. That said, if a CPU has already become unstable due to over-voltages (and over-power damage), it's not going to be fixed by reducing the power later as the damage is done.
2024/04/18 12:34:09
LukeT32
B0baganoosh
what memory do you have?
 
As per the stability issues, the suggestions out there are to put power limits in place in the BIOS (defaults are 4095W). With 13900k, they're suggesting 253W limit. You shouldn't have to do that though, and even intel's own testing they published didn't do that. I'm more inclined to think that the default V/F curves from intel are too high. They'll probably end up putting out another new micro-code to the motherboard manufacturers, which you won't get on an EVGA motherboard anyway because they're done supporting motherboards with stability updates. That said, if a CPU has already become unstable due to over-voltages (and over-power damage), it's not going to be fixed by reducing the power later as the damage is done.




Correct. I feel like RMA of the CPU is the only real hope at this point and monitor the voltages more closely since EVGA won't be pushing out whatever fix Intel comes up with in the future.
 
I put a set of this G.Skill set in when I first built the system in Oct 2022. I picked up another set in Feb 2023. So I have 64gb total.
 
https://www.newegg.com/g-...1?Item=N82E16820374351
2024/04/18 12:42:39
B0baganoosh
4 DIMMs running at 6000 on the z690 is pretty likely to be unstable. You could try dropping it to 4800 just to see if it helps at all. I don't remember the exact numbers as it's been a minute, but I remember a lot of people having a seriously hard time getting 4 DIMMs to run faster than the intel spec on the z690 boards. The z790 was better, but still a crapshoot. I don't know why it would get worse with time unless the CPU's IMC is degrading, but it could be worth a try. Edit: well, I suppose Windows corruption could be getting worse if it's been unstable memory the whole time. You should do an "sfc /scannow".
2024/04/18 13:39:03
bdary
Since your issue's began not long after doubling your Memory, I would start there.  Go back to the 32GB of Ram you had from the start. After you remove the newly added Ram, disable XMP and do some testing.  If all is good, go back to XMP 1 for further testing.  Take it from there and see how things run.
2024/04/18 14:55:01
Sajin
No problems here with 13900k on z690 dark kingpin at default settings running 5600mhz memory for one year and three months.
2024/04/18 17:53:54
LukeT32
bdary
Since your issue's began not long after doubling your Memory, I would start there.  Go back to the 32GB of Ram you had from the start. After you remove the newly added Ram, disable XMP and do some testing.  If all is good, go back to XMP 1 for further testing.  Take it from there and see how things run.


The ram was upgraded over a year ago.
2024/04/18 22:17:09
bdary
LukeT32
bdary
Since your issue's began not long after doubling your Memory, I would start there.  Go back to the 32GB of Ram you had from the start. After you remove the newly added Ram, disable XMP and do some testing.  If all is good, go back to XMP 1 for further testing.  Take it from there and see how things run.


The ram was upgraded over a year ago.

Yeah, I saw Feb and was thinking this past Feb. Didn't catch it being 2023.  I would still cut the ram in half though to troubleshoot.
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