2016/11/19 04:00:22
stalinx20
DamZe
stalinx20
imricko99
Are you joking? Have you been living under a rock? The entire 10xx lineup from EVGA is a mess. Get yourself Zotac, Gigabyte, ASUS Strix or MSI. 


Definitely do not do that. MSI, I hear mixed reviews, they can give you the run around. Gigabyte - stay away. Asus - definitely stay away and don't even touch them with a 10ft pole. Zotac - don't have any comment, not enough info on them.
 
The 1080 is definitely not the best card out there.




That is completely biased and untrue. I've built several rigs for family members with ASUS/MSi cards, they work without any issue, there might be a defective card from time to time (as there is with every single brand), but nothing as stupid as not having VRM cooling or vRAM pads that make no contact as seen with EVGA's 10-series custom line up.


Well, then you're one of the very few that got lucky. I can pull up a lot of reports that show Gigabyte fraudulently damaging customer's products to refuse warranty service, and that includes the same for Asus. However, I have not found any reports showing that Asus damages customers' products, but they go in circles with the customers frequently. Biased? If you really want to go there I will be happy to show you articles if you want. It's not biased, I'm a victim myself.
2016/11/19 04:20:23
dapgicc
RainStryke
The new GTX Titan X is currently the best card and in your upgrade path since you all ready have a GTX Titan. The GTX 1080Ti, which will basically be the Titan X at a much lower cost... Is expected to be out somewhere around January/February next year.
 
This is currently the fastest card you can buy right now:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/titan-x-pascal
 
You will want the Pascal version, the Maxwell Titan X isn't as fast.
 
You could also find another one of your cards on eBay and run SLI... Or move over to something like a GTX 980Ti if you want to avoid the GTX 10 series issues.




The Titan X is a beast, but a bit too much for my budget. Looking to give around 650 euros (688 USD) for a single card. I'm done with SLI since the support for that is running short.
2016/11/19 04:24:55
DamZe
stalinx20
DamZe
stalinx20
imricko99
Are you joking? Have you been living under a rock? The entire 10xx lineup from EVGA is a mess. Get yourself Zotac, Gigabyte, ASUS Strix or MSI. 


Definitely do not do that. MSI, I hear mixed reviews, they can give you the run around. Gigabyte - stay away. Asus - definitely stay away and don't even touch them with a 10ft pole. Zotac - don't have any comment, not enough info on them.
 
The 1080 is definitely not the best card out there.




That is completely biased and untrue. I've built several rigs for family members with ASUS/MSi cards, they work without any issue, there might be a defective card from time to time (as there is with every single brand), but nothing as stupid as not having VRM cooling or vRAM pads that make no contact as seen with EVGA's 10-series custom line up.


Well, then you're one of the very few that got lucky. I can pull up a lot of reports that show Gigabyte fraudulently damaging customer's products to refuse warranty service, and that includes the same for Asus. However, I have not found any reports showing that Asus damages customers' products, but they go in circles with the customers frequently. Biased? If you really want to go there I will be happy to show you articles if you want. It's not biased, I'm a victim myself.




I am certain there are scenarios which make it difficult to reach an agreement with the company with different circumstances and all. But telling people to stay away from the like of ASUS, MSi and Gigabyte isn't an option either. What would you tell people who want to buy an EVGA 10-series card? No company is perfect, but I can’t remember ever having a company completely skimp on QA when it comes to cooling on enthusiast level products like EVGA has done, and I can’t remember ever having to wait months to get the pads I need to make my product perform close to what it was originally advertised with.
 
Bottom line, no one is perfect, but EVGA has just positioned themselves as one of the worst offenders. I’d rather have some communication error with a company on an occasional dud/defective card, rather than have all the cards within a product line at risk of breaking. I can pretty much forget about resale value of my FTW 1070, it’s dead no one is going to take my word for it, having (eventually, if they ever decide to send those damn pads) installed some thermal pads DIY style on my Card as if some bloke looking for a card he can be comfortable with is going to take my word for it not frying due to overkill VRM setup and inadequate cooling. The FTW Cards have zereo performance advantage over other Cards, the increase 10+2 power phase setup is lame and only there to give the illusion of delivering cleaner power, tests show otherwise..    
2016/11/19 04:31:13
DamZe
dapgicc
RainStryke
The new GTX Titan X is currently the best card and in your upgrade path since you all ready have a GTX Titan. The GTX 1080Ti, which will basically be the Titan X at a much lower cost... Is expected to be out somewhere around January/February next year.
 
This is currently the fastest card you can buy right now:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/titan-x-pascal
 
You will want the Pascal version, the Maxwell Titan X isn't as fast.
 
You could also find another one of your cards on eBay and run SLI... Or move over to something like a GTX 980Ti if you want to avoid the GTX 10 series issues.




The Titan X is a beast, but a bit too much for my budget. Looking to give around 650 euros (688 USD) for a single card. I'm done with SLI since the support for that is running short.




If I were you I would wait, the 1080 is bound to go down in price as soon as the 1080Ti hits the market. The 1080 is relatively overpriced, you will most likely see much better deals in the NeXT 2-3 months. But if you can't wait then get a quality 1080 with decent cooling (aka. no EVGA).
2016/11/19 04:44:03
stalinx20
DamZe
stalinx20
DamZe
stalinx20
imricko99
Are you joking? Have you been living under a rock? The entire 10xx lineup from EVGA is a mess. Get yourself Zotac, Gigabyte, ASUS Strix or MSI. 


Definitely do not do that. MSI, I hear mixed reviews, they can give you the run around. Gigabyte - stay away. Asus - definitely stay away and don't even touch them with a 10ft pole. Zotac - don't have any comment, not enough info on them.
 
The 1080 is definitely not the best card out there.




That is completely biased and untrue. I've built several rigs for family members with ASUS/MSi cards, they work without any issue, there might be a defective card from time to time (as there is with every single brand), but nothing as stupid as not having VRM cooling or vRAM pads that make no contact as seen with EVGA's 10-series custom line up.


Well, then you're one of the very few that got lucky. I can pull up a lot of reports that show Gigabyte fraudulently damaging customer's products to refuse warranty service, and that includes the same for Asus. However, I have not found any reports showing that Asus damages customers' products, but they go in circles with the customers frequently. Biased? If you really want to go there I will be happy to show you articles if you want. It's not biased, I'm a victim myself.




I am certain there are scenarios which make it difficult to reach an agreement with the company with different circumstances and all. But telling people to stay away from the like of ASUS, MSi and Gigabyte isn't an option either. What would you tell people who want to buy an EVGA 10-series card? No company is perfect, but I can’t remember ever having a company completely skimp on QA when it comes to cooling on enthusiast level products like EVGA has done, and I can’t remember ever having to wait months to get the pads I need to make my product perform close to what it was originally advertised with.
 
Bottom line, no one is perfect, but EVGA has just positioned themselves as one of the worst offenders. I’d rather have some communication error with a company on an occasional dud/defective card, rather than have all the cards within a product line at risk of breaking. I can pretty much forget about resale value of my FTW 1070, it’s dead no one is going to take my word for it, having (eventually, if they ever decide to send those damn pads) installed some thermal pads DIY style on my Card as if some bloke looking for a card he can be comfortable with is going to take my word for it not frying due to overkill VRM setup and inadequate cooling. The FTW Cards have zereo performance advantage over other Cards, the increase 10+2 power phase setup is lame and only there to give the illusion of delivering cleaner power, tests show otherwise..    


How is EVGA the worst offender? At least they admitted their problems they were having. I'd like to see Asus or even Gigabyte do that at least one time; I would pay them to see them do that. What would I tell people who want to buy an EVGA 10 series card? Stick with the reference cards, always. That's the 1st step. Don't be so naïve to think EVGA tried to hide their mistake.
2016/11/19 04:49:22
lebel
*People that buy their components to use and then sell on will be put off by buying evga 10 series cards with all that's transpired. I would have to agree, regardless of actual failure rate.
*People that have already bought their expensive evga 10 series cards and now feel either cheated, disappointed, disillusioned or just plain angry. I really do sympathize. Having a quality aftercare service will not please or satisfy everyone, especially when they bought into the brand because of their products and not the other way round.
 
just my one and a half cents
2016/11/19 05:14:13
DamZe
lebel
*People that buy their components to use and then sell on will be put off by buying evga 10 series cards with all that's transpired. I would have to agree, regardless of actual failure rate.
*People that have already bought their expensive evga 10 series cards and now feel either cheated, disappointed, disillusioned or just plain angry. I really do sympathize. Having a quality aftercare service will not please or satisfy everyone, especially when they bought into the brand because of their products and not the other way round.
 
just my one and a half cents




Until I see my pads arrive, I will not call it "quality aftercare", 4 weeks and counting..
2016/11/19 05:26:13
baconinabun
stalinx20
imricko99
Are you joking? Have you been living under a rock? The entire 10xx lineup from EVGA is a mess. Get yourself Zotac, Gigabyte, ASUS Strix or MSI. 


Definitely do not do that. MSI, I hear mixed reviews, they can give you the run around. Gigabyte - stay away. Asus - definitely stay away and don't even touch them with a 10ft pole. Zotac - don't have any comment, not enough info on them.
 
The 1080 is definitely not the best card out there.




 
Agreed :D
2016/11/19 05:40:16
lebel
DamZe
lebel
*People that buy their components to use and then sell on will be put off by buying evga 10 series cards with all that's transpired. I would have to agree, regardless of actual failure rate.
*People that have already bought their expensive evga 10 series cards and now feel either cheated, disappointed, disillusioned or just plain angry. I really do sympathize. Having a quality aftercare service will not please or satisfy everyone, especially when they bought into the brand because of their products and not the other way round.
 
just my one and a half cents




Until I see my pads arrive, I will not call it "quality aftercare", 4 weeks and counting..


Quality of service, I don't see them failing here. Time of turnaround or one's impatience is a subjective feeling.
 
2016/11/19 11:55:13
Gawg36
I'd say that EVGA FTW range are still the top of the pile - but only newer ones that have the new thicker thermal pads. Not sure of the exact date they changed this.
Without any of the mods, or preinstalled new pads the card are right at the bottom of the pile and to be avoided. Luckily, I believe this is no longer the case.
 
Also, the excellent customer service remains, so if I were to buy a second 1080 it would be EVGA. But, I would be sure to check product dates and fully research that.

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