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2016/11/18 19:46:10
bcavnaugh
seth89
bcavnaugh
That is what AMD said about the R9 290X when I picked up a pair of LCSs.
At the time the only thing they could beat out was Folding Tasks over the GTX 780 cards and now they are almost useless.


How are the 290s almost useless, they kill it at 1080/1440, DX12, and Vulkan....

BF1@1440/144Hz on Ultra...

https://youtu.be/XRKl3jCgpCQ

I never did game on them I only Folded and Crunched.
Folding Core 21 runs poorly compared to the Old Core 17 and BOINC GPU are now more optimized for NVIDIA Graphics Cards.
They also take twice the Elect Power to run over the GTX 980 cards and almost three time more then the GTX 1080 Cards.
I still have them and run projects once in a while I only no longer run them 7/24 is all.
Their is more CUDA Projects out their then OpenGL but are starting to smooth out a little.
As for as I know Folding and BOINC have no DirectX any version or any  Vulkan Projects or Programs to run ATM.
 
PS BTW you are the one who talked me into getting these cards if you recall.
Maybe I will install Gears of War 4 and give them a test run as my rig is now running Windows 10.
2016/11/19 13:23:03
lehpron
Sajin
"More powerful than Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080"
I'll believe it when I see it.
If Polaris 10, then it's just a dual-GPU card, so performance will be a matter of which games made RX480 CF better than a single GTX1080.
I wouldn't be interested in RX490 if is in just a dual-GPU, I'd rather choose between GTX1080 Ti and Vega 10 + HBM2.0.
 
2016/11/19 16:31:43
seth89
lehpron
Sajin
"More powerful than Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080"
I'll believe it when I see it.
If Polaris 10, then it's just a dual-GPU card, so performance will be a matter of which games made RX480 CF better than a single GTX1080.
I wouldn't be interested in RX490 if is in just a dual-GPU, I'd rather choose between GTX1080 Ti and Vega 10 + HBM2.0.
 

I hope its not a boring dual GPU card. I want to see their HBM2 card, but I bet we won't see that until 2017.
2016/11/19 16:54:42
gridironcpj
Yeah, this seems like a dual GPU card.  Meh.  It'll probably have to be water-cooled out of the box.  Here are the problems with a dual version of the RX 480:
 
(i) The performance is targeting enthusiasts, yet what enthusiast would buy a product with two weak GPUs over one powerful GPU?  Thus, this is not for enthusiasts.
(ii) Full performance will require Crossfire support or explicit mgpu support in DX12 games.  It'll perform exactly the same as the RX480 in a majority of DX12 games (and Doom with Vulkan).  
(iii) With enthusiasts ruled out, who else will want a radiator for their graphics card in their PC?  AMD is notorious for cards only coming in hybrid form (look at the Fury X... high 60s WITH water cooling, so probably close to 100C without, which is why AMD never allowed for air-cooled variants).
 
Where is Vega?  Are they really holding it back because of HBM2?  If so, that's suicide.  By the time Vega releases, most of the market will be saturated since the 1070, 1080, and Titan XP have been around for quite a while.  I have no faith in AMD right now.  I've been optimistic in the past, but then we get garbage like the Fury X.  They need to compete.  Nvidia is kicking their bottoms.
2016/11/19 18:16:07
owcraftsman
This won't be a dual GPU card if it was it would be a RX495 not 490. CF has worked better for me gaming than SLI. The 490 is Vega 10 completely different from Polaris (480). The 7nm fab Vega 20 won't come til 2019. There will likely be a RX490x before end of 2017. No serious GPU overclocker would be without a waterblock on their GPU. Overclocked and BF4 multiplayer load my CF 290x's rarely go over 56c. When they 1st came out and I was bench testing the blower style cooler the reference card rarely exceeded 72c but noisy as hell. It has always been my understanding the 480 is targeted at the mainstream segment with VR support not enthusiast. The 490 is targeted for enthusiast.    
 
2016/11/20 01:11:43
Xavier Zepherious
Sajin
"More powerful than Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080"
 
I'll believe it when I see it.


POlARIS ??? beating a 1080 in your dreams
Vega yeah maybe
2016/11/20 11:45:54
phteven7
I hope this RX490 will be competitive. That could potentially lower the price of the 1080.
2016/11/20 15:11:16
Gold Leader
Well.. as far as I know, there will be no RX 490, it was canceled from what I was told. The RX 590 will be it's replacement, aka Vega that is GCN 5.0 based and will have 16GB HBM2.
Unless..that may have changed? Could be I guess.
 
Oh wells my bad news is that my R9 290X died just after the lilifetime warranty
And I must admit that the hardware quality no matter if it's a GeForce or a Radeon is disappointing these days, all this Made in China garbage, low quality solder etc, I never had a single Radeon or GeForce or Vodooo die on me as they were all made in Mexico, Thailand, South Korea, Singapore & Taiwan for production units or Canada & USA as the Engineering Samples went.
 
For the games I play I am choosing the RX 480 8GB from Sapphire or MSI,  these cost around 290 Euro's that to which is a sweet spot not even an NVIDIA card can compete with for that same value.
 
The RX 480 8GB will do me lots of good @ 1920x 1200 with Vulkan API, OpenGL Next & DX11. Since I mostly run Retro & mid gen games well the latest ones I do are only Fallout 4 and Primal Carnage: Extinction for the rest I am not so bothered really.
 
GTA 5 seemed fun, but ergh not kinda of planning on spending so much money for a game, just not worth it.
The RX 480 8GB will do fine for X-Plane Global X Pro & Star Citizen as well + the 24 Cores I have backhand, so I am not worried for that part likewise.
 
Nvidia is way too expensive for what they offer, so sorry guys gonna stick with AMD Radeons for now.
 
 
2016/11/20 19:15:38
Nereus
Gold Leader
Oh wells my bad news is that my R9 290X died just after the lilifetime warranty

Wait.. the R9 290X was only launched 3 years ago.. is that what they call a 'lifetime warranty'? LMAO.. another reason to go EVGA/NVidia.. extended warranty up to 10 years (or 5 years for a lesser cost), not to mention the awesome EVGA after sale service if needed. Your choice of course. :)
 
 
2016/11/20 22:12:56
pat39576
Nereus
Gold Leader
Oh wells my bad news is that my R9 290X died just after the lilifetime warranty

Wait.. the R9 290X was only launched 3 years ago.. is that what they call a 'lifetime warranty'? LMAO.. another reason to go EVGA/NVidia.. extended warranty up to 10 years (or 5 years for a lesser cost), not to mention the awesome EVGA after sale service if needed. Your choice of course. :)
 
 


And not to mention a product that out performs most AMD cards currently on the market.

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