howdy2u2
NucleusX
I've been a qualified electronics and PC tech for over 20 years. You might know how to debate in this forum, but i certainly know my way
around technology. The need for monitoring these areas have always been there. I can think of countless models over the last 20 years
from different manufacturers that had over-heating VRAM and VRMs. This is a text book case that illustrates how useful they could be.
Nice, with that said then......... 20 yrs as you say and still not implemented, thus the manufacturers still do not feel a need for monitoring. Correct? Useful, to a point for those that understand (Techs as yourself, Engineers, manufacturers of said items) what they are seeing and the limits that said items can tolerate. Correct? So unless the makers of all these items place sensors on key points (pick an item on the board) and provide some sort of monitoring software that is truly understandable by non-qualified users and unless they had experience such as yourself it would be useless. Riddle me this, do you honestly believe that very many folks who use HWmonitor actually know what all the temperature/ voltage readings are that are displayed for the MOBO actually represent and can point out where they are and what the voltages should be on said MOBO? Whether it is an actual or inferred temperature, high or low voltage, the monitoring software is reading correctly. I highly doubt it to be honest, so when the temperature or voltage is shown is it good or bad? Don't know unless you know make, model and manufacturer number/ serial number of monitored item due to technology changing in the blink of an eye. CPU, GPU FOUND IT!! VRAM....ummm who made it? The resistor with the 2 red stripes and one black stripe ummmmm what's its resistance supposed to be?
With all this rambling I have just done, I ask you one last thing and I will not post again in your thread. With your experience and qualms about the temperatures, why have you not come up with your own solution while waiting on EVGA? You have the knowledge and experience to perform such a mod until a solution was found. (Your reaction will be.... I shouldn't have to) EVGA has stated that there is no need on the 1060FTW+ for a bios or additional thermal pads (unless they change their mind at a later date, doubtful at this point I would think), you believe otherwise. Seeing that your opinion differs from EVGA and other 1060FTW+ owners have concerns maybe come up with solution and post a guide/ how to of sorts to HELP others with the same concerns. Be a part of a solution, not the problem..........................Good Luck!!
Wow, thats a lotta dribble. lol thanks for playing ! Now for someone that appears to have real intelligence.
HeavyHemi
The reality is, we represent a small minority of the users. I'm not sure what a 'qualified electronics and PC Tech' is. Geek Squad?
It means i have the proper certifications and qualifications related to said fields. Started in electronics, finished specializing in computers.
I have been active in the field and gained my experience. I'm not having a pi$$ing contest with anyone, i just want him to know that
I'm not as in-experienced as he thinks i am, nothing more.
HeavyHemi
That being said, the data sheet for Micron GDDR5 does show
• On-die temperature sensor with readout
• Automatic temperature sensor controlled self refresh rate
Samsung is a bit more nebulous though they also implement similar memory error correction methods. In any event, All GDDR5 uses temperature compensation. However, I'd have to do more research on if were possible for a board manufacturer to access this and also make it useful to the user.
Without turning things into a thesis, the majority of temperature sensors on-board most chips are just Diodes. Cheap and plentiful.
Now its not as simple as that, as there needs to be extra accommodations made for it within the chip for it to be fully functional, and
accessible for external telemetry. Its hard for me to say why manufacturers don't bother to integrate them, as reading material isn't
plentiful on the specific subject, it could be as simple as saving a few cents. Anyone that has spent time with hardware for so long
and has repeatedly crossed paths with failures directly related to VRAM and VRM modules over an extended period of time, would
easily come to the conclusion that extra monitoring in these areas would prove beneficial to at-least the enthusiast and power user
class. For the extra money that is paid for premium hardware in that class, its conceivable. Employing these in all hardware across
low to mid range hardware that takes up the vast majority of market share, probably asking too much, and far less essential.