2016/11/17 11:35:33
NucleusX
BallParky54
None taken. I mean we all bought the thing to use it and now everyone is stuck waiting for thermal pads...I highly doubt increasing the fan speed with justify anyone to not be cautious.



I really don't mind a bit of fan noise in these custom cards, beats the noise that come out of reference cards. What i do mind is VRAM and VRMs put at risk from
overheating from either not enough thermal pad surface area, or no contact at all. Their temps can't be monitored, and %100 fan speed would do little to save them.
Every moment you run a game without those VRAMs making proper contact, is a step closer to the death of those VRAMs. They must make contact or they will fail. 
2016/11/17 11:39:05
BallParky54
Very true. I have no idea where we go from this now! No gaming for few weeks now...
2016/11/17 11:47:36
NucleusX
Pretty much how I've had to do it for about a month now.
2016/11/17 12:11:28
howdy2u2
I have been running an1060 full load folding with afterburner running since I care less about fan noise. Check the folding forums if you like, a photo is posted. Temperatures are FINE, fan speed is fine matter of fact the fans on the case and the radiator are LOUDER. Apparently you seem not to want to take EVGAs word and keep pissing and moaning about it. If you feel it's needed then take the card by the memory/ VRMs or whatever else you feel is needed to make it qualify to your apparent engineering needs. On the other hand I believe you will never be satisfied, end result is we will continue to have to see you post on and on about it.
2016/11/17 13:35:11
jackvancouver
NucleusX
BallParky54
None taken. I mean we all bought the thing to use it and now everyone is stuck waiting for thermal pads...I highly doubt increasing the fan speed with justify anyone to not be cautious.



I really don't mind a bit of fan noise in these custom cards, beats the noise that come out of reference cards. What i do mind is VRAM and VRMs put at risk from
overheating from either not enough thermal pad surface area, or no contact at all. Their temps can't be monitored, and %100 fan speed would do little to save them.
Every moment you run a game without those VRAMs making proper contact, is a step closer to the death of those VRAMs. They must make contact or they will fail. 


 
THIS.
 
Especially when the fans run at 0db (not spinning) in BIOS/Linux. If the K-boost feature is accidentally left in the on position when the system reboots, it will heat up the card and the fans won't spin, not until the GPU core temp reaches 65C, then it only spins at a mere 30%.
 
Also, we have a genuine interest in keeping our hardware running for years to come and having flaws like this certainly isn't helping. Planned obsolescence anyone?
2016/11/17 16:01:38
NucleusX
howdy2u2
I have been running an1060 full load folding with afterburner running since I care less about fan noise. Check the folding forums if you like, a photo is posted. Temperatures are FINE, fan speed is fine matter of fact the fans on the case and the radiator are LOUDER. Apparently you seem not to want to take EVGAs word and keep pissing and moaning about it. If you feel it's needed then take the card by the memory/ VRMs or whatever else you feel is needed to make it qualify to your apparent engineering needs. On the other hand I believe you will never be satisfied, end result is we will continue to have to see you post on and on about it.



I knew I'd provoke a loyalist lol, inevitable. You montioring your VRAM and VRM temps are you ? or you just saying your GPU core temp is
fine ? cause that's all you're gonna see, so your observations there are moot. I'm doing what is necessary, and this will all be over soon.
And yes i'll be happy then, knowing i got a card safe guarded as best as possible against its short-comings. Wonder how long yours will last.
I have serious buyers remorse now, because its taken so long to address. 1 month later and I'm still not gaming, who wouldn't piss and moan.
 
Its funny how people call you out about complaining about stuff, then you find them shortly after losing their mind in another thread. 
2016/11/17 16:19:54
NucleusX
jackvancouver
 
Also, we have a genuine interest in keeping our hardware running for years to come and having flaws like this certainly isn't helping. Planned obsolescence anyone?




Couldn't have said it better myself.
2016/11/17 16:25:51
howdy2u2
NucleusX
 
I knew I'd provoke a loyalist lol, inevitable. You montioring your VRAM and VRM temps are you ? or you just saying your GPU core temp is
fine ? cause that's all you're gonna see, so your observations there are moot. I'm doing what is necessary, and this will all be over soon.
And yes i'll be happy then, knowing i got a card safe guarded as best as possible against its short-comings. Wonder how long yours will last.
I have serious buyers remorse now, because its taken so long to address. 1 month later and I'm still not gaming, who wouldn't piss and moan.




Loyalist whatever, assuming you are saying that I'm guessing from my join date huh. That would be when EVGA was pretty much the only manufacturer that had AMD sockets and nVidia SLI capabilities. There has NEVER been monitoring of VRM and memory temps to my knowledge from any manufacturer of GPUs. If it was so so so critical that it needed to be monitored like the GPU and CPU do you not think it would have been implemented by nVidia or AMD from the get go along with the software to do said monitoring? So with that said, if the manufacturer doesn't feel the need to place sensors then there is No need to monitor it IMO. Question is, did YOU know it even existed/ what it was or where it was located until the whole internet went haywire? I am willing bet you had absolutely no clue as to what it was or what the specific items even did. (Until the sky started falling and folks got scared and you googled it) Yes, it will be all over soon and I hope you find your safe temperature you are looking for, installing sensors to monitor it I hope. If you do not install the sensors how exactly are you going to know your in your safe zone? Pretty much you don't and won't period.    How long will it last you ask? I am guessing until it dies or I get rid of it for another series of GPU in the future. I have 3 years to run the wheels off of this before it goes out of warranty. I am actually LOLing that you are afraid to game with it.......................SMH .................Better unplug from the grid.........it's scary out there...........
 
Edit to your Edit: Not going to bother, I just need to remove my Loyalist self from the conversation so you can have your safe place.
2016/11/17 16:41:39
NucleusX
howdy2u2
NucleusX
 
I knew I'd provoke a loyalist lol, inevitable. You montioring your VRAM and VRM temps are you ? or you just saying your GPU core temp is
fine ? cause that's all you're gonna see, so your observations there are moot. I'm doing what is necessary, and this will all be over soon.
And yes i'll be happy then, knowing i got a card safe guarded as best as possible against its short-comings. Wonder how long yours will last.
I have serious buyers remorse now, because its taken so long to address. 1 month later and I'm still not gaming, who wouldn't piss and moan.




Loyalist whatever, assuming you are saying that I'm guessing from my join date huh. That would be when EVGA was pretty much the only manufacturer that had AMD sockets and nVidia SLI capabilities. There has NEVER been monitoring of VRM and memory temps to my knowledge from any manufacturer of GPUs. If it was so so so critical that it needed to be monitored like the GPU and CPU do you not think it would have been implemented by nVidia or AMD from the get go along with the software to do said monitoring? So with that said, if the manufacturer doesn't feel the need to place sensors then there is No need to monitor it IMO. Question is, did YOU know it even existed/ what it was or where it was located until the whole internet went haywire? I am willing bet you had absolutely no clue as to what it was or what the specific items even did. (Until the sky started falling and folks got scared and you googled it) Yes, it will be all over soon and I hope you find your safe temperature you are looking for, installing sensors to monitor it I hope. If you do not install the sensors how exactly are you going to know your in your safe zone? Pretty much you don't and won't period.    How long will it last you ask? I am guessing until it dies or I get rid of it for another series of GPU in the future. I have 3 years to run the wheels off of this before it goes out of warranty. I am actually LOLing that you are afraid to game with it.......................SMH .................Better unplug from the grid.........it's scary out there...........
 
Edit to your Edit: Not going to bother, I just need to remove my Loyalist self from the conversation so you can have your safe place.




I've been a qualified electronics and PC tech for over 20 years. You might know how to debate in this forum, but i certainly know my way
around technology. The need for monitoring these areas have always been there. I can think of countless models over the last 20 years
from different manufacturers that had over-heating VRAM and VRMs. This is a text book case that illustrates how useful they could be.
2016/11/17 18:55:46
howdy2u2
NucleusX
I've been a qualified electronics and PC tech for over 20 years. You might know how to debate in this forum, but i certainly know my way
around technology. The need for monitoring these areas have always been there. I can think of countless models over the last 20 years
from different manufacturers that had over-heating VRAM and VRMs. This is a text book case that illustrates how useful they could be.



Nice, with that said then......... 20 yrs as you say and still not implemented, thus the manufacturers still do not feel a need for monitoring. Correct? Useful, to a point for those that understand (Techs as yourself, Engineers, manufacturers of said items) what they are seeing and the limits that said items can tolerate. Correct? So unless the makers of all these items place sensors on key points (pick an item on the board) and provide some sort of monitoring software that is truly understandable by non-qualified users and unless they had experience such as yourself it would be useless. Riddle me this, do you honestly believe that very many folks who use HWmonitor actually know what all the temperature/ voltage readings are that are displayed for the MOBO actually represent and can point out where they are and what the voltages should be  on said MOBO? Whether it is an actual or inferred temperature, high or low voltage, the monitoring software is reading correctly. I highly doubt it to be honest, so when the temperature or voltage is shown is it good or bad? Don't know unless you know make, model and manufacturer number/ serial number of monitored item due to technology changing in the blink of an eye. CPU, GPU FOUND IT!! VRAM....ummm who made it? The resistor with the 2 red stripes and one black stripe ummmmm what's its resistance supposed to be?
     With all this rambling I have just done, I ask you one last thing and I will not post again in your thread. With your experience and qualms about the temperatures, why have you not come up with your own solution while waiting on EVGA? You have the knowledge and experience to perform such a mod until a solution was found. (Your reaction will be.... I shouldn't have to) EVGA has stated that there is no need on the 1060FTW+ for a bios or additional thermal pads (unless they change their mind at a later date, doubtful at this point I would think), you believe otherwise. Seeing that your opinion differs from EVGA and other 1060FTW+ owners have concerns maybe come up with solution and post a guide/ how to of sorts to HELP others with the same concerns. Be a part of a solution, not the problem..........................Good Luck!! 

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