2016/11/14 22:42:32
XxTaikenxX
Sajin
XxTaikenxX
Sajin
You can log chart history to file by right clicking the monitoring graph and selecting "log history to file".


I did do that. The log file is called HardwareMonitering.hml but I dont think I am allowed to upload it here.


Upload it to mediafire.com then post a link to it.


Ok, I will do that after re-testing with atm743's suggestions.
2016/11/15 00:34:13
XxTaikenxX
Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log.
 
https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3
 
For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway. 
 
Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.
2016/11/15 00:37:20
acxcoolerssuck
if you really care about the down-clock problem, you can try other bios with higher power limit.
but even you try other aib bios with more power limit, you should still get one level (13mhz) downclocked then you can have solid gpu clock. 
2016/11/15 00:40:25
acxcoolerssuck
XxTaikenxX
Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log.
 
https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3
 
For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway. 
 
Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.


from 2101 to 2088, its normal // it seems unavoidable, even you are using aio cooling. if the clock keeps going down to 207x or 206x, then it should be related to the power limit. it is my experience on my 1070 ftw.
 
the evga hybrid radiator fan is not good, buy a noctua f12 (ippc) or other fan with high static pressure.
2016/11/15 00:49:00
XxTaikenxX
acxcoolerssuck
XxTaikenxX
Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log.
 
https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3
 
For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway. 
 
Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.


from 2101 to 2088, its normal // it seems unavoidable, even you are using aio cooling. if the clock keeps going down to 207x or 206x, then it should be related to the power limit. it is my experience on my 1070 ftw.
 
the evga hybrid radiator fan is not good, buy a noctua f12 (ippc) or other fan with high static pressure.


Well, the temperature stays at a cool 50c at load. Even if I got a better fan, I wouldn't necessarily get better performance, right? It would be more or less for the sound. Plus, I have no more fan slots on the mobo to regulate temps. Also, someone people have said that only fans work fully when plugged into the gpu. A lot of the beefier ones barely spin or not at all.
 
But in terms of not winning the silicon lottery, is that still an ok OC for a gtx 1080 ftw with a hybrid kit?
2016/11/15 01:31:56
atm743
going from 2101 to 2088 in game or benches probably looses you less than 1% of performance. its not a huge deal. only way to avoid that drop is going full open loop with a full waterblock. its not just the gpu die that gets how. the VRM gets really hot. so even though you are getting low temps showing on the gpu while benching or gaming, the vrm still gets pretty hot.  when i had my 980 Ti with a full EK block on it. i never had any drops with my core clock. it stayed pegged at whatever i set it at.  but like i said its not a huge deal. that 13mhz core clock drop is not going to do anything.  



2016/11/15 01:46:28
acxcoolerssuck
XxTaikenxX
acxcoolerssuck
XxTaikenxX
Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log.
 
https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3
 
For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway. 
 
Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.


from 2101 to 2088, its normal // it seems unavoidable, even you are using aio cooling. if the clock keeps going down to 207x or 206x, then it should be related to the power limit. it is my experience on my 1070 ftw.
 
the evga hybrid radiator fan is not good, buy a noctua f12 (ippc) or other fan with high static pressure.


Well, the temperature stays at a cool 50c at load. Even if I got a better fan, I wouldn't necessarily get better performance, right? It would be more or less for the sound. Plus, I have no more fan slots on the mobo to regulate temps. Also, someone people have said that only fans work fully when plugged into the gpu. A lot of the beefier ones barely spin or not at all.
 
But in terms of not winning the silicon lottery, is that still an ok OC for a gtx 1080 ftw with a hybrid kit?


pascal gpu is very sensitive to gpu temp, so keep it as low as possible if you want to get highest core clock.
 
if you are talking about performance in real gaming then lots of reviews show that from 2000 to 2100 the gain in performance is insignificant. therefore you should figure out what you are going for.
 
jayztwocents changed the stock fan to a ek fan, with significant improvement on gpu temp. you can go check his 1080 hybrid video. if you care about acoustic then noctua may suit you well. you cant use 4pin y cable (two 4pin to one 4pin) to get extra fan support with the same fan header on mobo. you can use speedfan to control the radiator fan plugged to mobo. or you can choose to buy a 4pin to small 4pin fan so that you can plug your 4pin fan to the gpu pcb and get controlled from gpu.
 
i like aio on gpu. much better temp and acoustic performance as well as overclocking room compared to air cooling. 
 
here are some tips for overclocking pascal gpu:
1. firstly apply -100mhz to gpu core offset
2. then use voltage curve oc with just raising the point of 1.093v, leave other points unchanged
 
 
2016/11/15 02:26:47
XxTaikenxX
As far as I know, 50c is pretty damn cool for a gpu at load. I don't have the option to plug a fan into the mobo because all the slots are being used. Unless a really good fan, like the Be Quit Silent Wings 3, set at an aggressive fancurve plugged into the psu and regulated via a fan controller, which I don't own, lowers the temp to about 40 c, then maybe its worth doing it it I can get a higher clock. But if the boost is so small that it won't make much of a difference, why should I bother?
 
As someone said above, from 2088 to 2101, its almost unnoticeable. I was hoping to ave reached an stable OC of 2150 MHz, but I am never going to be able to reach that. I can only do a core offset of +90 MHz, which only ends up pushing my card to 2101. And it doesnt even stay there at full load. 
 
I think I just need to face the truth that I wasn't as lucky as some other card owners. 
2016/11/15 03:32:39
acxcoolerssuck
XxTaikenxX
As far as I know, 50c is pretty damn cool for a gpu at load. I don't have the option to plug a fan into the mobo because all the slots are being used. Unless a really good fan, like the Be Quit Silent Wings 3, set at an aggressive fancurve plugged into the psu and regulated via a fan controller, which I don't own, lowers the temp to about 40 c, then maybe its worth doing it it I can get a higher clock. But if the boost is so small that it won't make much of a difference, why should I bother?
 
As someone said above, from 2088 to 2101, its almost unnoticeable. I was hoping to ave reached an stable OC of 2150 MHz, but I am never going to be able to reach that. I can only do a core offset of +90 MHz, which only ends up pushing my card to 2101. And it doesnt even stay there at full load. 
 
I think I just need to face the truth that I wasn't as lucky as some other card owners. 


you should google pwm splitter, 2 to 1 and 3 to 1 and even 4 to 1 are all available in the market.
you should also check the techpowerup first pascal gpu review, there is a page analyzing the core clock fluctuation. pascal gpu, the reviewing one, started to throttle at 40c.
2016/11/15 05:51:54
ksgnow2010
50 C is pretty good.  If you want lower temperatures you can:
 
1. Put a different fan on the radiator, or two fans in push/pull...you will have to drive them from your motherboard or a fan controller.  If you drive off your motherboard, remember that the typical maximum current for motherboard fan headers is 1 amp...so check the current rating on your fans before you use a 2, 3, or 4 way PWM splitter.
 
I personally use two Corsair ML120 fans on my each of my 3 AIOs (one for CPU, 2 for GPU - I used the 1080 hybrid kit to mod an AIO onto my Titan X Pascal).
 
2. Run your GPU AIO radiator as intake into the case.  The temperature will be cooler as the air across the radiator is the cooler room air versus the warmer internal air of your case.  The downside is that you will be bringing in warmer air to cool your case components.
 
On my case, I run:
- 1 CPU AIO as intake (2 fans in push/pull)
- 2 GPU AIO as intake (2 fans in push/pull on each)
- 2 140 mm fans as intake
- 3 140 mm fans as exhaust
 
Each of my Titan X P cards stay below 45 C...and these cards draw a lot more power than a standard 1080.  Internal temperatures are great (memory and all other components stay below 38 C).
 
 

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