2016/11/13 10:54:52
ManBearPig
XrayMan
Nereus
Umm... the EVGA Powerlink is $29.99 alone, that list is a lot to ask for just a $30 subscription..

I agree. Like trying to buy a $70,000 Porsche for $7,000. Not going to happen.

Well they are giving them away for free right now, so it's not out of the question.  And it's not like the power link actually costs $29.99 to manufacture, they most likely are only a few dollars to make.
2016/11/13 11:22:44
lehpron
How are the terms defined, I'm not talking about a user agreement, I mean:
  1. What conditions define a member?
  2. How is it different from a customer?
  3. Do frequent or legacy members get any priorities over new members?
I ask about the latter as they are the first ones to cry foul when someone random that just signed on wins the Scavenger Hunt prizes every year.  So in the defense of frequent or long-time forum visitors, random users have to be limited in what they get, unless this program is purely a money grab to help identify your baller customers' needs better since they'll be the ones to sign-on no question or hesitation...

In other words, since no one is asking, what is EVGA looking to gain out of this?
2016/11/13 15:51:22
MSim
Nereus
 
Umm... the EVGA Powerlink is $29.99 alone, that list is a lot to ask for just a $30 subscription..
 




You mean the $27 markup on an item that costs around $3 to make in China. You have to keep the membership fee low, if you want to attract enough customers.
 
Look at what you get from Amazon Prime membership. The reason so many people purchase Prime membership, it's due to the high value they receive from it. 
 
The $68 dollar question is, can evga offer enough value at a reasonable price.
 
 
 
 
2016/11/13 17:59:17
krane
I think I will wait till all you guys figure this out, then I will join.
2016/11/13 18:27:52
Nereus
MSim
Nereus
 
Umm... the EVGA Powerlink is $29.99 alone, that list is a lot to ask for just a $30 subscription..



You mean the $27 markup on an item that costs around $3 to make in China. You have to keep the membership fee low, if you want to attract enough customers.
 
Look at what you get from Amazon Prime membership. The reason so many people purchase Prime membership, it's due to the high value they receive from it. 
 
The $68 dollar question is, can evga offer enough value at a reasonable price.

$3 you say.. and you know this how?
 
Just arbitrarily saying some cost doesn't make it true.
 
Regardless, the cost of making it is irrelevant, I'm talking about opportunity cost - this is how much EVGA loses by not selling it at $29.99 regardless of how much it cost them to make it. Basic economics / cost accounting.
 
 
2016/11/14 03:12:00
MSim
Nereus
MSim
Nereus
 
Umm... the EVGA Powerlink is $29.99 alone, that list is a lot to ask for just a $30 subscription..



You mean the $27 markup on an item that costs around $3 to make in China. You have to keep the membership fee low, if you want to attract enough customers.
 
Look at what you get from Amazon Prime membership. The reason so many people purchase Prime membership, it's due to the high value they receive from it. 
 
The $68 dollar question is, can evga offer enough value at a reasonable price.

$3 you say.. and you know this how?
 
Just arbitrarily saying some cost doesn't make it true.
 
 




The powerlink is around $3-5 mfg cost. It's made in CHINA, you know the country where labor is dirt cheap for companies to outsource mfg to. 
 
Where's your idea for membership perks and cost to where people will see it as a good value.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2016/11/14 07:20:13
Nereus
MSim
Nereus
MSim
Nereus
Umm... the EVGA Powerlink is $29.99 alone, that list is a lot to ask for just a $30 subscription..

You have to keep the membership fee low, if you want to attract enough customers.
 
Look at what you get from Amazon Prime membership. The reason so many people purchase Prime membership, it's due to the high value they receive from it. 
 
The $68 dollar question is, can evga offer enough value at a reasonable price.

$3 you say.. and you know this how?
 
Just arbitrarily saying some cost doesn't make it true.
 
Regardless, the cost of making it is irrelevant, I'm talking about opportunity cost - this is how much EVGA loses by not selling it at $29.99 regardless of how much it cost them to make it. Basic economics / cost accounting.

The powerlink is around $3-5 mfg cost. It's made in CHINA, you know the country where labor is dirt cheap for companies to outsource mfg to. 


You're proposing up to hundreds of dollars of discounts and freebies for a $30 subscription? 
 
This subscription model works with Amazon Prime because of the sheer volume of orders many individuals make, so the profit margin on multiple items easily covers the cost, plus you get return custom. With EVGA, I imagine most people only buy one or maybe two big items a year tops, unless you're a system builder.  For a $30 fee, you proposed:
 
  • New Member reward: Choice between evga t-shirt ($7.99 + $7.95 shipping - I just checked on EVGA) and lanyard ($4.99 assume shipped with tshirt) or evga powerlink ($29.99 + $9.99 shipping) (new members only) freebie for joining.
  • 50% off all shipping from evga.com (shipping minimum for 1 card would be ~$20 value, so assuming 2 items a year with cheapest - slowest - shipping option possible = $40 minimum)
  • 30% off select accessories, gear and swag (depends what is ordered, arbitrary $15, being conservative)
  • One Free EAR per year (value $30-$50 depending on plan)
  • Extra 30days step-up Window (a big cost to EVGA.. if you sold your card you might get 80% of it's value, so another ~$100 indirectly here)
  • Members can join a queue to purchase newest graphic cards on the market (can see scumbags joining for this alone and taking all the stock so they can resell on EBay / Amazon for 50% markup while stopping stock being available to public.. yeah brilliant).
 
So end result, for $30 you get immediate $20-$40 in freebies, ~$200 conservative in other bonuses, plus it's open to abuse for new stock.
 
Yeah I can see why you think that's a good idea... but not so much for EVGA.
 
If EVGA expanded their product line to maybe modding parts, custom cooling loops parts etc. etc., then this subscription model might be more viable. With FrozenCPU gone it's perhaps not such a bad idea...
 
 
 
 
2016/11/14 07:28:51
Shockjockey
EVGA needs to expand products more for this to really work.  More cooling stuff! More Game cases! Need some exclusive software and early release of games and or demos. Swag? Swag doesn't make your pc any faster LOL . How about LESS advertisement. Not one of those guys that likes staring at the Glowing EVGA logo 24/7.
 
2016/11/14 07:42:11
Nereus
Shockjockey
EVGA needs to expand products more for this to really work.  More cooling stuff! More Game cases! Need some exclusive software and early release of games and or demos. Swag? Swag doesn't make your pc any faster LOL . How about LESS advertisement. Not one of those guys that likes staring at the Glowing EVGA logo 24/7.

Yeah agree about needing a bigger range of products to be really advantageous to both customers and EVGA. After all, EVGA is a business, not a charity. Partnering with another company for custom water loop components, modding parts, even SSDs or cables etc. might help expand the EVGA range and make this subscription model more viable.


 
2016/11/14 09:40:33
Zorton Maverick
More options re Step Up as follows -
1. Great choice of options - not just the reference cards (like Hybrid or classified, etc).
2. Longer time for Step Up - for xample - from 3 months to 6 months.
 
Discounts on products for members - % off.
 
Queueing system for members for new products (pre-orders guaranteed).
 
 
 

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